This year's presidential election campaigns in the US have been a spectacle the kind of which we have not seen since the days when Rome ruled the world. This year's highly entertaining two ring circus (i.e. presidential elections in the US) has served to show us all just how much control special interests and big money have over the political process in the US. They can no long hide the kind of people buying their way into American politics. They can no long hide the fact that the thing called "democracy" does not exist in the US, at least not in the way they want us to think it exists. They can no longer hide the fact that civil liberties (what made America unique in the world) are gradually disappearing. Also notice that increased funding for the already over-bloated US war-machine and unconditional support for Israel are the ONLY topics ALL presidential candidates, including those who claim they are not under the influence of any special interests, unanimously agree on. In fact, when on a public podium, they all seem to go out of their way to signal their subservience to Jews and their desire to allocate immense funds to the military industrial complex. In my opinion, the candidates' harsh rhetoric about Russia and Iran are intrinsically connected to their desire to win the support and approval of the two aforementioned ruling elites in the country.
It seems as if spewing hateful rhetoric about Russia and Iran, feeding the gluttonous military industrial complex and paying homage to Jews and Israel have become the litmus test all US officials need to pass before they are considered for the top job in the country. It's truly troubling how far the US has fallen since President Eisenhower's warning fifty-five years ago and President Nixon's warning forty-five years ago.
Donald Trump versus America's ruling elite
This year's two ring circus has been particularly entertaining, thanks to billionaire businessmen, real estate mogul and television celebrity, Donald Trump. When Trump first announced his candidacy last summer, none of the political pundits in the country expected him to do so well. Trump was supposed to be an interesting sideshow. Well, that was before he suddenly and quite spectacularly stole the show. It's as if Trump had been waiting and preparing all his life for this. Watching him it quickly becomes apparent that he is fully in his element. He is relishing every bit of this moment. He is enjoying himself and he is being a brilliant ringmaster. In fact, Trump knew early on in his life that he would one day seek presidential office. He actually came close to doing so in 2000. But that was not his time yet. Today is the moment he was destined for. I believe that his presidential bid was his manifest destiny, and it has become a watershed moment in American history. I should also add that discussions about whether or not Trump actually has policies are irrelevant in discussions about Trump because his attitude and his larger-than-life persona transcends political policy. Actually, Trump's presidential bid has little to do with actual political policy and more to do with his personality. Simply put: His supporters want to see Trumpian attitudes in the White House; actual policies, they surmise, can come later. Also for his supporters, a vote for Trump is essentially a vote against all the other, run of the mill politicians.
Trump was mentally preparing for today for a very long time, and he thought he had laid the proper ground work for himself. After all, he had created a business dynasty and amassed billions of dollars. He had turned his name into a national brand. He had established ties with both sides of the political isle in Washington. He had married his beloved daughter Ivanka into Judaism. His political advisers are Jewish. His campaign manager is Jewish. Yet, Jewish owned news organizations in the US are crying - “if you are a Jew, you should be very afraid of Donald Trump” and neoconservative Jewish warmongers are asking - is this the end of the West as we know it?" The anti-Trump frenzy has gotten so bad, that Max Boot, senator Marco Rubio's "foreign policy adviser" (and a well known Western imperialist, Republican, Neoconservative, Council on Foreign Relations member and Russian born son of Jewish dissidents) is even on record publicly claiming he "would sooner vote for Josef Stalin than vote for Donald Trump".
The Jewish establishment in the US and by extension everyone else within news media and government in the US remains largely against him. Consequently, the country's Neoliberal establishment (the Jewish-led left wing) is against him and the country's Neoconservative establishment (the Jewish-led right wing) is against him. Consequently, most political pundits and news media outlets in the US (mostly Jewish and/or Jewish owned) have been attacking him viciously. Why do we see this unbridled hysteria within the Jewish community? In my opinion, because unlike other presidential candidates who are willingly and enthusiastically surrendering themselves to the Jewish establishment and the international elite (European and American secret societies), Trump is seen as an independent player merely seeking to cooperate with them. This was very apparent in a talk he recently gave to a room full of influential Republican Jews. Listen carefully -
Donald Trump Speaks at Republican Jewish Coalition Presidential Forum (12-3-15): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PQYOvDmWqjo
The above noted attributes of Trump (coupled with the current economic and sociopolitical situation in the US) are precisely what the Jewish establishment in America and globalist interests around the world fears. From their perspective, the US is too important because the US has been a powerful catalyst with which they have been pushing their strategic agendas around the world for decades. Therefore, when it comes to Washington and American politicians, they seek total domination. In other words, the US is too wealthy, too large, too powerful, too influential in the world, and the ruling elite is too vested in the American empire to simply share power to a populist outsider who is not totally owned or controlled by them. It should also be said that Trump's populist persona, his popularity among white Christians and some of his style is also reminding his worried detractors of historic figures like Hitler and Mussolini.
From a Jewish perspective: Once a immensely popular public figure like Donald Trump, who has a following of millions of white Christians in the country, rises in American politics on a platform based on anti-establishment, anti-immigrant, anti-Mexican and anti-Muslim sentiments... it's a very small leap thereafter to the thing called "antisemitism". In my humble opinion, the fear Jews have towards Trump is primarily an instinctual fear. Consequently, although Trump has gone out of his way to pander to the country's Jewish ruling elite to gain their approval, the Jewish ruling elite realizes that Trump (and his followers) are not something they can directly own or easily control. Trump will therefore not be trusted by them. I also suspect his German pedigree is not helping him one bit. But with millions of Americans standing firmly by Trump's side, they now realize they have a serious problem on their hands. The anti-Trump hysteria orchestrated by the Jewish establishment and their lackey's throughout American society could therefore be foreseen and expected.
We therefore have a situation in the US where there is a presidential candidate who is doing his utmost best to work from within the political system at hand; a presidential candidate who is immensely popular throughout the country; a Republican presidential candidate who is drawing large numbers of Democrat and independent voters into the Republican party... but also a Republican presidential candidate that the Republican establishment (and virtually everyone else in Washington) is vehemently opposed to. Just think: Instead of being happy that in Trump the Republican Party finally got someone that record numbers of American voters are excited about, they are viciously attacking him. Would the Republican Party rather lose the general elections with a couple of Hispanics than win with Trump? Apparently, yes.
It was an extraordinary day in American history when the Republican establishment represented by former Republican presidential nominee Mitt Romney officially set out to subvert the will of the American people. By doing so, the US political establishment finally revealed its true face -
Mitt Romney: Donald Trump is a 'phony, a fraud': http://www.cnn.com/2016/03/03/politics/mitt-romney-presidential-race-speech/
Open Letter on Donald Trump from GOP National Security Leaders: http://warontherocks.com/2016/03/open-letter-on-donald-trump-from-gop-national-security-leaders/
But ask yourselves: What about the will of the voters? What happened to that wonderful thing called "democracy" all of a sudden? A relatively well known American public figure meticulously worked his way into the political system setup by the ruling elite, but he is being attacked by the system because he is too independent and too popular? This makes absolutely no sense... well, that is until you look at the bigger picture and realize who and what controls America today.At Secretive Meeting, Tech CEOs And Top Republicans Commiserate, Plot To Stop Trump: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/aei-world-forum-donald-trump_us_56ddbd38e4b0ffe6f8ea125d?2oz85mi
Trump presidential bid has inadvertently revealed that even within a tightly controlled two-party system, which is in essence a closed circuit, there can be serious problems when presidential candidates exhibit traits (e.g. popularity and independence) that the ruling elite does not like to see in presidential candidates. Donald Trump (and Bernie Sanders) has also revealed just how much influence major money donors have in American politics. What we are seeing today in America are things some of us knew existed all along but had a hard time proving it to the ignorant public. Thanks to Trump (and Sanders), and as the Armenian saying goes, the shit is now coming up to the surface.
What we are witnessing today is the coming of age of a new political landscape in the US. Once upon a time Anglos (WASPs) exclusively and jealously ran the country. That is no longer the case today. America's WASP class has relinquished all power to American-Jews and the international elite (a group of powerful families in Europe and in the US in which Jews also play a prominent role). American-Jews in particular have achieved near total domination in the US today.
Jews represent the American left (George Soros' Neoliberal types), Jews represent the American right (Leon Strauss' Neoconservative types). One side brings you imperial wars, along with "Judaeo-Christian" values, big business and American flags; the other side brings you imperial wars, along with abortions, feminism, multiculturalism, immigrants, welfare state and rainbow flags. Although Jews maintain close ties with their shabbos goyim known as "Christian Zionists", they remain much, much more prolific and active in America's left. The Western world has thus become a test-tube and a playground for the Jewish elite. Virtually all American politicians - both Democrat and Republican - eat from Jewish hands. Immense amounts of Jewish money finances both sides of the political spectrum in the US. They do this to essentially have a firm footing in any given political discourse. The US has thus become a showcase for Jews on the left and Jews on the right - and those in the middle getting screwed is the average American. Jewish influence in the US today is so pervasive that when the "right" fights the "left", what we essentially see is Jewish infighting. We can clearly see this unique dynamic in modern America play out when they sometimes air their dirty laundry. When disagreements are sometimes observed between the US and Israel, you can bet it is Jewish infighting. Nevertheless, regardless of what political side in the US you think you are on, you are in fact on their side. Jews are America's new ruling elite, as the following proves -
Donald Trump's beloved daughter is a "happy Jew" -
Ivanka Trump is happy to be Jewish: http://www.timesofisrael.com/ivanka-trump-happy-to-be-jewish/The Hispanics in the bunch, Cruz and Rubio, are more Zionistic than most Jews -
Ted Cruz says: "If You Won't Stand With Israel, I Will Not Stand With You": http://www.breitbart.com/national-security/2014/09/11/ted-cruz-under-fire-if-you-won-t-stand-with-israel-i-will-not-stand-with-you/
Senator Marco Rubio – Israel First, America Last: http://www.veteranstoday.com/2015/03/20/senator-marco-rubio-israeli-firsterBernie Sanders is of course a Jew, but apparently he doesn't like talking about it -
Bernie Sanders Is Jewish, but he doesn’t like to talk about it: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/02/25/us/politics/bernie-sanders-jewish.html?_r=0And many years ago Hillary Clinton claimed to be part Jewish -
Hillary Has Jewish Roots: http://www.cbsnews.com/news/hillary-has-jewish-roots/
I remain convinced that this is primarily a result of "social engineering" and mental conditioning that comes from either growing up in a Western nation or in a nation under Western influence. Through engineering tools like school curriculum, cinema, music, television programming, print media and news media, Jews have succeeded in thoroughly brainwashing the masses. That is actually how they have traditionally operated. They use cultural levers to brainwash and/or distract the masses, they use financial levers to buy officials and subvert governments. That is how they ruined Russia; that is how they ruined Germany; that is how they ruined the Middle East; that is how they are currently ruining the US. Organized Jewry plays a parasitical role in the human ecology. I say parasitical purely in an ecological sense and not as an ethnic slur.
In a nutshell: Jews stole America while Americans were too drunk, too high or too preoccupied with sex, television, shopping or baseball to notice it. Consequently, Jews today represent all that is America, in all its gore and glory. Consequently, much of what the world hates and/or fears about America today - be it its warmongering, ultraliberalism or its neoconservatism - can be traced to American Judaism. It's this Jewish nature and character - with its inherent hatred of Christians, Muslims, Europeans, Russians, Arabs and Persians - that will eventually destroy the US. The US is already in decline because subservient officials in Washington have been pursuing policies both at home and abroad that are beneficial to Jews and Israel but detrimental to the US. Looking at the American political landscape, I now feel that it's final: To be considered for high office in today's America, you have to be either fully Jewish, partially Jewish or simply more Jewish than Jewish
There is no democracy in America and the old America is dead
The following is more-or-less what the political system in the US is all about: Elections in the US is basically about two groups of well connected people competing for the empire's control panels. The system is rigged to be a two party show. Ultimately, Democrats and Republicans are two sides of the same coin or like what an American friend of mine once said: "Same shit, different asshole". Every four years the ruling elite in the US decides what shirt the sheeple will wear, and the sheeple are then given the "democratic" choice of picking between two colors. The US political system is like a two ring circus managed by a ringmaster that the audience does not get to see. US presidents are selected to be elected by the sheeple. US presidents are tasked with being the spokesmen or salesmen for the special interests running the show behind-the-scenes. The US is run like a multi-national corporation in which the American citizenry is its work force.
Washington's greatest strength continues to be is its devilish ability to deceive even the healthiest of minds. Which reminds me of a powerful quote by the great German philosopher Goethe: "None are more hopelessly enslaved as those who falsely believe they are free". Due to the sheer power of propaganda and social engineering, most Americans continue to think they are a free people. Most Americans are still under the impression that there is a functioning democracy in the US. If you are one of these sad simpletons, I ask you to please wake up, open your eyes and realize that despite what political party you “decide” to support in the US, the imperial elite in the US has already decided what kind of country you will live in. Everything else is just an elaborate show meant to distract fools.
Men like Lavoy Finicum once personified the United States of America. I am not going to pass moral judgement, but it was his kind after all that literally put the nation on the map. It was his kind that also helped the US became a superpower. Now, Lavoy Finicum is dead, murdered by his government. His kind that once ruled the American heartland unopposed is now a dying breed. In my opinion, Finicum's death symbolized the death of the old America and the birth of a new America. And this new America is in fact a "third world America". The US is no longer "the land of the free and the home of the brave" and it is definitely no longer a nation "united under God". America was stolen while Americans were busy getting drunk or high, or were just too preoccupied with sex, television, shopping or baseball. The US today is slowly (some say quickly) transforming into a massive God-less police state and a surveillance state, and the situation is getting worst with each passing year. It should be said however that due to its past momentum, accrued wealth and the fact that it remains the epicenter of the world, there continues to be some economic opportunities in the US for intelligent, creative, clever and/or lucky individuals. But even that is slowly diminishing today as wages decline, cost of living rises and the middle class shrinks. The so-called "American Dream" (a post Second World War phenomenon) is gradually turning into an American nightmare for tens-of-millions of Americans. At the end of the day, none of the big talking presidential candidates will be able to fix America's problems because the fundamental problem the US has is its imperialism, its role as a global hegemon.
The great German philosopher Friedrich Nietzsche once stated: "Those who fights monsters should see to it that they themselves do not become a monster”. The US failed to heed the German philosopher's advice. By defeating Nazi Germany and the Soviet Union, the US acquired the worst characteristics of both.
The US today is a far cry from what its founding father intended when they founded the nation. The US is no longer a republic, but a massive global empire under the control of a handful of special interests. Washington's imperial pursuits in recent decades is essentially what's wrong with America today. How so? Well, the following is one way how: It is well known that the America's infrastructure is failing, as evidenced by what we saw take place in Flint, Michigan. While the Federal government claims it does not have the funds to fix America's failing infrastructure - and boost America's economy and its middle class by creating millions of well paying jobs throughout the country in the process - it somehow has the funds - $5 TRILLION and counting to be exact - to fight hegemonic wars in the Middle East and elsewhere.
TRILLIONS of dollars are being wasted in imperial pursuits of grandiose agendas, while the US slowly transforms into third world status, America's once famed civil liberties slowly disappear and the US, once seen as the world's policeman, is now seen as "the biggest threat to world peace".
If the political facade in the US looks a bit more professional or even somewhat more "democratic" when compared to other nations, it's simply because the US has been slowly developing and fine-tuning its closed circuit, two party political system for well over two hundred years. At its very core the US is essentially the same as all other top-heavy, authoritarian governments around the world. Ultimately, the US is too wealthy, too powerful, too large and too influential globally to allow a silly thing called democracy get in the way. Those who are therefore hoping that Washington will one day tighten it's belt, willingly abandon the business of empire (the business it's been in since the Second World War) and begin transforming the US back to being a republic are fooling themselves. Once a hegemonic predator gets to live on the top of the global food-chain, it becomes virtually impossible for it to live anywhere else. Washington willingly abandoning its imperial status is like a person willingly quitting a high paying profession on Wall Street to work at McDonald's for minimum wage. It just won't happen. Those who run the American empire will therefore never willingly allow the "people" to have a real say in American politics.
Uncle Sam has therefore evolved quite sophisticated methods to manage and/or manipulate people's will during elections without making it look too obvious. These undemocratic practices even have impressive sounding names: "Electoral College", "Super-delegates" and "Gerrymandering". And this is how crazy some of this stuff actually is -
It's crazy, it's legal, and it's undemocratic. Adam Ruins Everything explains gerrymandering: https://www.facebook.com/Upworthy/videos/1184373084936881/
Because Democracy! How Bernie beat Hillary but lost New Hampshire: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OxkzXeZTUso
We therefore had a situation where the Clinton witch and Bernie Sanders were more-or-less even in actual votes, but in the "super-delegate" count (which is the number that counts) the witch was leading Sanders by several hundred points. Two candidates were more-or-less even in the number of votes they had gotten from the voters, but the one that had "insider" support was way ahead in the delegate count. And that's not all, people from the Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) vet and "consult" presidential candidates -
Donald Trump and other candidates held briefings with Council on Foreign Relations: http://www.nytimes.com/politics/first-draft/2016/03/03/donald-trump-held-briefing-with-richard-haass-head-of-council-on-foreign-relations/
So, how is any of this different from what happens in the US?!
Would Russian or Iranian officials get away with the kind of corruption Washington gets away with on a regular basis? Never! In fact, in 2012, Russia had one of the most orderly and democratic elections in the world, yet the West was crying foul. In fact, Iran has had a very well organized election process, but the West has been crying foul. Very well, I accept the notion that Russia, Iran or even Armenia are far from being perfect... but where are Western-funded NGOs decrying the undemocratic processes we are seeing take place throughout the US?
I reiterate: If the political facade in the US looks shinier, more refined, more sophisticated or more palatable, it's simply because the US has had an uninterpreted two hundred year head-start in the game of modern politics. But at its core the political system in the US is essentially the same as the ones we see in other, more authoritarian parts of the world. The US is too wealthy, too powerful, too large and too influential. Those who run the American empire will therefore never allow the "people" to make political decisions and they will never allow outsiders like Donald Trump to change the game. In my opinion, the US differs from nations like Russia, Iran and Armenia only with the sophistication with which it fools its electorate and keeps things orderly.
Manipulation of the political process via dirty tricks is nothing new in American politics. But this year's presidential campaigns have brought the flaws and the rampant corruption in the system to the forefront like never before. What we are seeing take place in this year's election process in the US is blatant examples of the deeply rooted institutionalized corruption (i.e the kind of corruption that is reserved only for upper echelons of society) in the Western world. The following are some additional materials to ponder -
US elections, rigged and computer codes: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JEzY2tnwExs
Could computers fail on election day? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=fnI1FtdzuP0&feature=plcp
This Hoax Affects Everyone: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=cKEchuRO4gs
Two-Party Dictatorship: US choosing lesser evil? http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mQye2ykp2rU&feature=plcp
Ron Paul 100% proof of Maine Election fraud! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JxYXVaUWSiA
Stealing a U.S. election? Nothing's easier! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ot4rVVa5lL0&feature=plcp
Top heavy is better
Poll: Just 7 Percent Of Russians Care About Democracy: http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/18/poll-just-7-percent-of-russians-care-about-democracy/
Russian Lawmakers Aim at Foreign Cars, Films and Schooling in Patriotic Purge: http://www.nytimes.com/2013/01/13/world/europe/russian-lawmakers-move-to-purge-foreign-influences.html?_r=0
Free societies shoot to great heights, but they burnout just as fast. When it comes to governing, top heavy will always be more efficient and longer lasting. I also want my ever-naive and self-destructive Armenian compatriots to stop their utter stupidity when it comes to politics in Armenia. Armenians need to wake up and see that corruption is in fact much worst in the US. Armenians need to wake up and see that there is no democracy in the US. Armenians need to wake up and realize that the existence of subversive (or mentally ill) characters like Paruyr Hayrikian, Jirayr Sefilian, Raffi Hovanissian and Levon Petrosian within the political scene in Armenia is proof that Armenia is, unfortunately, more democratic than the US. Armenians also need to wake up and realize that the US did not become this wealthy, this developed and this powerful because of "democracy" "humanitarian values" or "liberalism".
It is troubling for me that a lot of people are still under the impression that the Western world, the US in particular, become this wealthy and this developed as a result of democracy and/or liberalism. We must dispel this false notion because it is misleading millions of people around the world and causing unrest by feeding the ignorant masses yearning for a better life with false and poisonous misconceptions.
Protected by oceans, the political/financial elite in the US took over two hundreds years to grow the country to what it is today. During that time period, the US became a wealthy world power essentially as a result of the industrial revolution; mass scale enslavement of Africans; the systematic extermination of native American Indians and the confiscation their resource rich lands; global wars for plunder; and the total control over global trade and commodities as a result of such wars. The aforementi0ned, coupled with effective governance by very intelligent and farsighted officials, are the fundamental reasons why the US reached historic prominence within the 20th century. In my opinion, had the US been an actual democracy, it would not have even made it this far. Democracy had nothing to do with the rise of American wealth and power. In fact, it can be strongly argued that encroaching "democratic values" such as liberalism and the loss of traditional/conservative values in the country are the reasons why American civilization is in decline today.
Today, the American empire remains a fancy house-of-cards built by Freemasons and founded on war, genocide and slavery. The America we all knew and loved was a post Second World War phenomenon. It was only after Second World War that some of the accrued wealth in the empire trickled down to the masses and created the much vaunted “American Dream”. The US reached its pinnacle with the defeat of Nazi Germany and the fall of the Soviet Union. But it has been living as a global parasite ever since. Today’s America is a destructive force around the world. Thankfully, times are changing, the East is rising and it will be downhill for the Western empire from now on.
If the US is not really a democracy, then what is it?
A closer look at the system in place in the US strongly suggests that the country is actually a mix of corporatocracy, plutocracy and oligarchy. And one glance at the political process in the country is enough to see that the US is a two party, closed circuit political system under constant supervision by a handful of powerful groups. The political system in the US is essentially like a two ring circus carefully managed by ringmasters the audience seldom gets to see. And the ringmasters in question are: Jewish establishment; Council on Foreign Relations; Trilateral Commission; Pentagon; CIA; military industrial complex; international bankers; Wall Street; Federal Reserve; energy lobby; pharmaceuticals lobby; and the insurance lobby. It should also be added that always present within the highest levels of the above mentioned special interests in Washington are the international elite and their secret orders, the exclusive clubs where members of European and American ruling dynasties (old money) get together and plot ways to preserve their wealth and their power. Some of societies I am referring to are: Freemasonry, Illuminati, Rosicrucians and of course the more modern Bilderberg group.
These groups prove that real power and real wealth in this world continues to be inherited.
There are in fact many exclusive clubs for high society in the US and in Europe. One such group known as Saint Hubertus briefly revealed itself recently when Justice Scalia died unexpectedly. By pointing this out the only thing I am suggesting is that elitist clubs are real and they are present in the highest echelons of Western governments. While we have no accurate way of measuring how influential they are in politics, they do nevertheless seem omnipresent in centers of power in the Western world. That said, looking at modern institutions like the United Nations, the World Bank and the International Monetary Fund; movements such as globalism, liberalism and socialism; and the institutionalized promotion of climate change awareness, atheism, democracy, freedom of the press, human rights, homosexuality, feminism, GMOs, civil society, ecumenism and interracialism around the world, I believe it is safe to conclude that the international elite in question does yield great power in places like Washington, London and Brussels. I also suspect that Julian Assange's Wikileaks and the network of internet activists known as Anonymous also serve these globalist interests.
I would also like to add that when Donald Trump talks about making peace with Russia, shutting down the US border with Mexico and bring back American businesses from places like China, he may be cleverly appealing to the average American, but he is unnerving the country's international elite (i.e. its Council on Foreign Relations, Trilateral Commission and Bilderberg Group types). If you listen closely to what high level American officials say about US trade relations with China and other developing economies around the world, you will inevitably come to the realization that it is the international elite that created the world's current financial system with the US at its epicenter; it is the international elite that wants to contain potential competitors like Russia; it is the international elite that convinced American officials to outsource US industry to nations like China, Vietnam, Singapore and Mexico; it was the international elite that designed thee trade agreement NAFTA to create an interdependent north American superstate; it was the international elite that has transformed the US from an industrial superpower to a service sector economy; and it is the international elite that convinced American officials to open wide America's borders to third world migration to continue feeding their newly created economic system in the US with low wage workers.
In other words: American industry and businesses have been moving to other countries not because American businessmen are stupid or greedy as we are told from time to time - but essentially because the international elite that controls the economic and financial strings of the American empire began outsourcing American businesses in the early 1970s for the sole purpose of economically and financially tethering the economies of strategic nations around the world to the north American behemoth they had created. As I said: If you educate yourselves about this topic and then listen closely to what high ranking policymakers in the US (not "elected politicians" but senior officials like Ben Bernanke, Henry Kissinger and Zbigniew Brzezinski) say about why Washington has outsourced American businesses and crafted trade agreements like NAFTA and TPP, you will realize all this.
Nevertheless, it was this international elite that also transformed the US into an epicenter for various globalist projects. The US has thus been the catalyst for global agendas - be it economic, be it political, be it financial, be it cultural - since the end of the Second World War. This situation has all but decimated the middle class in America and has drastically altered the character of the US. But this situation has also, as intended, preserved global hegemony for the US and preserved the elite's wealth and influence. Consequently, the American economy today, as well as its politics, has less to do with the interests of the American people per se and more to do with the international elite's desire to maintain their global power and hegemony through the US. The faster stupid Americans (who have been convinced by the ruling elite that what I have just outlined here is a "conspiracy theory") realize all this, the faster will they begin to make better sense of what's going on in their country. Once more: Levers of power in the United States were stolen and Americans were too drunk, too high or too preoccupied with sex, shopping or baseball to notice it.
Getting back to Donald Trump: There is an Armenian saying that roughly translated says: The kind of friends a man has says a lot about the man. That is very true. It is also very true that the kind of enemies a man has also says a lot about the man. We plainly see the kind of enemies Trump has, and that is frankly why many of us like Trump.
Unless there is a very elaborate deception being played on us all by Trump and the country's ruling elite, I believe that Trump is genuine. At the very least, his political stances regarding Syria and Russia are ostensibly rational. At the very least, he is nothing like the other warmongers and puppets of special interests we see on the political stage. Nevertheless, and regardless of everything else, I am grateful to Trump (and Sanders) for reveling some of the ugly truths about the American political system, truths many of us knew existed but could not unequivocally prove because they were always hidden just below the shiny surface. And I of course thank him for all the memorable entertainment.
I can therefore say that I like Trump and that I am a Trump fan. But I wouldn't go as far as calling myself a Trump supporter.
For now, I am just a fan. Because I am under no illusions. Also, I don't like to engage in wishful thinking. I am critical and cynical and I dislike trends. It's not fun to be this way but it's my nature to be independently minded, cautious and realistic. In my opinion, the American empire is too large, too powerful, too corrupt and too set in its ways, and Trump is too little, too late. Trump will not change the system, the system will more likely change Trump. If Trump gets the Republican nomination and goes on to beat the witch or the socialist for the nation's presidency, he will only do so by coming to terms with the powers that be. There is no other way forward for him - unless he wants to risk his well being. In my opinion, Trump will not live to see the White House if he does not fully submit himself to the ruling elite or at the very least "cut a deal" with them. The last time the US had a populist leader that really wanted to change things for the better, he was murdered by his own. I am not suggesting that they may kill Trump. They won't go that route because it would be too obvious. Besides, assassinations of high officials by the deep state are reserved as a drastic last resort measure, a trump card (pardon the pun). But they do have other ways to ruin people's lives. In any case, Trump won't risk anything. He is simply not that type. As we have already seen, he has already been signalling his strong willingness to work with the country's Jewish establishment and the military industrial complex. That in itself is bad enough and nothing good can come out of it. Trump wants to be part of the ruling establishment, even if the ruling establishment does not trust him. But if it comes down to it, the ruling establishment will make a deal with him.
If Donald Trump somehow becomes president of the United States, some of his core beliefs will therefore have to change if they run counter to the interests of the American empire. In my opinion, shutting down America's borders with Mexico or getting into trade wars with nations like China or Japan runs counter to the interests of the American empire. Men like Trump will eventually find out that the world they live in looks very different when viewed from inside the White House.
Arevordi
Spring, 2016
Is this the end of the West as we know it?
Source: https://www.washingtonpost.com/opinions/donald-trump-and-the-end-of-nato/2016/03/04/e8c4b9ca-e146-11e5-8d98-4b3d9215ade1_story.html
Their campaign began with an impassioned essay in The American Interest last month by Eliot A. Cohen, a former Bush State Department official, who depicted Mr. Trump as symptomatic of the broader “moral rot” of America. Then, in an open letter, more than 100 Republican foreign policy mavens, including neocons such as Mr. Cohen and Robert Kagan, as well as more traditional Republican foreign policy figures like the former World Bank president Robert B. Zoellick, announced they were “united in our opposition to a Donald Trump presidency.”
One can hear echoes of this Republican past in Mr. Trump’s own positions. His animating credo on foreign policy seems to be to farm out the heavy lifting to other countries whenever possible. Speaking on “The Hugh Hewitt Show” last August, he made his distaste for intervention clear: “At some point, we can’t be the policeman of the world. We have to rebuild our own country." Since then, to the consternation of the party establishment, he has also forthrightly denounced the Iraq war, declaring that the Bush administration’s case for it was based on a “lie.”
Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/13/opinion/sunday/the-neocons-vs-donald-trump.html?ref=opinion&_r=0
His vision of American influence and power in the world is wildly inconsistent and unmoored in principle. He swings from isolationism to military adventurism within the space of one sentence.
His advocacy for aggressively waging trade wars is a recipe for economic disaster in a globally connected world.
His embrace of the expansive use of torture is inexcusable.
His hateful, anti-Muslim rhetoric undercuts the seriousness of combatting Islamic radicalism by alienating partners in the Islamic world making significant contributions to the effort.
Furthermore, it endangers the safety and Constitutionally guaranteed freedoms of American Muslims.
Controlling our border and preventing illegal immigration is a serious issue, but his insistence that Mexico will fund a wall on the southern border inflames unhelpful passions, and rests on an utter misreading of, and contempt for, our southern neighbor.
Similarly, his insistence that close allies such as Japan must pay vast sums for protection is the sentiment of a racketeer, not the leader of the alliances that have served us so well since World War II.
His admiration for foreign dictators such as Vladimir Putin is unacceptable for the leader of the world’s greatest democracy.
He is fundamentally dishonest. Evidence of this includes his attempts to deny positions he has unquestionably taken in the past, including on the 2003 Iraq war and the 2011 Libyan conflict. We accept that views evolve over time, but this is simply misrepresentation.
His equation of business acumen with foreign policy experience is false. Not all lethal conflicts can be resolved as a real estate deal might, and there is no recourse to bankruptcy court in international affairs.
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The Republican Party has a serious Jewish problem. With the party failing to foresee and later oppose Donald Trump's rise, Republican Jewish outreach faces an unprecedented crisis. The party could end up with a nominee who alienates both Jewish conservatives by breaking with Republican orthodoxy on Israel and Jewish liberals by promoting authoritarianism, racism, and xenophobia. Jewish Republicans have rested their case for drawing Jewish voters away from the Democratic Party on what they portray as stronger Republican support for Israel. They play to Jewish affection for Israel by disingenuously depicting President Obama as undermining the historic U.S.-Israeli alliance and snubbing the Israeli prime minister. They claim Obama has posed a dangerous threat to Israel itself, both through the Iran nuclear deal and the administration's efforts to forge an Israeli-Palestinian peace agreement.
Because American Jews are overwhelmingly liberal, multi-issue voters, this strategy was always a bit of a fool's errand. But it could be subverted completely if the party nominates Trump. It could have been easy to anticipate this predicament. At the Republican Jewish Coalition Presidential Forum in December, Trump drew criticism for promoting anti-Semitic stereotypes while speaking to an audience of Jewish activists, many of them wealthy donors to the party. He suggested that they might not support him because he wouldn't take their campaign contributions. He called himself a "negotiator, like you." He said they were, like him, great dealmakers. The speech, a characteristic Trump mash-up of insult and purported flattery, at the time provoked a nervous discomfort in the audience, but little tangible opposition.
Even Trump's promise to use his negotiating skills to reach a "great" peace deal between the Israelis and Palestinians — a heresy in conservative pro-Israel circles — failed to produce a coherent anti-Trump strategy from Republicans. The reception he receives at his scheduled speech before the American Israel Public Affairs Committee (AIPAC) next week will be telling. As his campaign has marched on, Trump has become more brazen with his Islamophobia, his scapegoating of immigrants, and his promotion of "roughing up" protesters at his rallies, who are frequently black.
The Trump campaign also has failed to explain how it gave press credentials to a white supremacist radio host to broadcast live from a rally in Tennessee. When confronted by his refusal to disavow support from the anti-Semitic former Ku Klux Klan grand wizard David Duke, Trump said, "I don't like to disavow groups if I don't know who they are. I mean, you could have Federation of Jewish Philanthropies in groups." The Anti-Defamation League called Trump's statement apparently likening neo-Nazi groups and Jewish charities "obscene." Jews do not make Hitler comparisons lightly, but increasingly Trump's rallies, at which he has deployed strongmen and incited followers to violence, are inviting them.
Rather than acknowledge these echoes, though, Trump has derisively dismissed them. After video of Trump supporters raising their arms in a gesture reminiscent of the Nazi salute went viral in Jewish and Israeli media, Trump trivialized his detractors. At last week's debate in Miami, he called the criticism "a total disgrace." In that same debate, in a crucial state in which Jewish support can be pivotal, Trump defended himself with a word salad of some-of-my-best-friends-are-Jewish rhetoric. "I've made massive contributions to Israel," he said, because — don't you know? — Jews value money over everything else. "I have tremendous love for Israel. I happen to have a son-in-law and a daughter that are Jewish, okay? And two grandchildren that are Jewish."
Trump's Republican opponents appear helpless to defend themselves or their party against Trump's assault on their standing among Jewish voters. The second place contender, Ted Cruz, has strained to portray himself as the most dedicated friend of Israel. Leading a campaign that depends on the support of evangelicals, he has touted his endorsements from supposedly pro-Israel evangelicals. But that comes with its own pitfalls. Cruz has singled out the support of Mike Bickle, a controversial Missouri preacher who claims Jews are "spiritually blind" and must be brought to Christ in order for Israel to be "restored" for Jesus' return. The GOP's 2016 Jewish outreach may have started as pipe dream. It has turned into a train wreck.
The front-runner is unfit to lead a great political party, let alone America... just in case there was any confusion what The Economist thinks:
IN A week’s time, the race for the Republican nomination could be all but over. Donald Trump has already won three of the first four contests. On March 1st, Super Tuesday, 12 more states will vote. Mr Trump has a polling lead in all but three of them. Were these polls to translate into results, as they have so far, Mr Trump would not quite be unbeatable. It would still be possible for another candidate to win enough delegates to overtake him. But that would require the front-runner to have a late, spectacular electoral collapse of a kind that has not been seen before. Right now the Republican nomination is his to lose. When pollsters ask voters to choose in a face-off between Mr Trump and Hillary Clinton, the Democratic front-runner wins by less than three percentage points. Mr Trump would have plenty of time to try to close that gap. An economy that falls back into recession or an indictment for Mrs Clinton might do it for him. That is an appalling prospect. The things Mr Trump has said in this campaign make him unworthy of leading one of the world’s great political parties, let alone America. One way to judge politicians is by whether they appeal to our better natures: Mr Trump has prospered by inciting hatred and violence. He is so unpredictable that the thought of him anywhere near high office is terrifying. He must be stopped.
If the field remains split as it is now, it is possible for Mr Trump to win with just a plurality of votes. To prevent that, others must drop out. Although we are yet to be convinced by Mr Rubio, he stands a better chance of beating Mr Trump than anyone else. All the other candidates—including Mr Cruz, who wrongly sees himself as the likeliest challenger—should get out of his way. If they decline to do so, it could soon be too late to prevent the party of Abraham Lincoln from being led into a presidential election by Donald Trump.And then there is the Council of Foreign Relations' Benn Steil with "Selling America Short" of which sections have been excerpted below:
So just whose nerves has Trump gotten on? Here is a summary of the current and honorary directors of the CFR, who basically double down as a 'who is who' list of everyone relevant in modern finance:The country would cease to be great under a President Trump
Following his primary victories in New Hampshire, South Carolina, and Nevada, Donald Trump has established himself as the clear frontrunner for the Republican presidential nomination. He has done so offering grandiose slogans — He'll Make America Great Again! He'll have us win so much we'll get bored with winning! — and precious little in specifics. He has said, for example, that he would repeal Obamacare, without saying a word about what would replace it — beyond promising that his health program would be "terrific" and "take care of everyone."
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If Trump were to order the U.S. military to act as he suggests, the likely result would be a crisis in civil-military relations. Many military personnel would refuse to carry out orders so blatantly at odds with the laws of war; soldiers know that they could face prosecution under a future administration. If soldiers were to do as President Trump ordered, moreover, terrorist organizations would have a new recruiting pitch with the world's Muslims — the need to counter American barbarism.
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The radical changes that Trump proposes are all the more dangerous because he is so singularly ill-equipped to manage the resulting turmoil. This is a candidate, after all, who doesn't know the difference between the Kurds and the Quds Force or have any idea what the "nuclear triad" is. Nor has Trump so far made good on his pledge to attract "top top people" to help him run things; he has still not unveiled a campaign foreign policy team in spite of months of pledges to do so. In any case, advisers cannot make up for a president's ignorance and prejudice; presidents always get conflicting advice, and it is their job, and their job alone, to make the most difficult judgment calls in the world. Trump has already done considerable damage to America's reputation with his crude, bombastic, and often ugly rhetoric. American standing, as measured both in "soft power" and more traditional realpolitik terms, would suffer far more if he were to become commander in chief. A Trump presidency threatens the post-World War II liberal international order that American presidents of both parties have so laboriously built up — an order based on free trade and alliances with other democracies. His policies would not make America "great." Just the opposite. A Trump presidency would represent the death knell of America as a great power.
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Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as ‘internationalists’ and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure—one world, if you will. If that is the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it.
Defections of any scale could prove lethal to Mr. Trump. He already trails Mrs. Clinton in general election polls, and polling already shows the possibility of mass desertions from the party. A CNN/Opinion Research Corporation survey this week found that 48 percent of Republicans who do not already back Mr. Trump said they would probably not or definitely not support him in November. But even as Republican leaders have denounced Mr. Trump in increasingly forceful terms, few of them have suggested they would shun him. Mr. Rubio has come the closest, describing Mr. Trump as a fraudster whom the party cannot afford to embrace.
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In an interview with Slate, the historian of fascism Robert Paxton warns against describing Donald Trump as fascist because “it’s almost the most powerful epithet you can use.” But in this case, the shoe fits. And here is why. Like Mussolini, Trump rails against intruders (Mexicans) and enemies (Muslims), mocks those perceived as weak, encourages a violent reckoning with those his followers perceive as the enemy within (the roughing up of protesters at his rallies), flouts the rules of civil political discourse (the Megyn Kelly menstruation spat), and promises to restore the nation to its greatness not by a series of policies, but by the force of his own personality (“I will be great for” fill in the blank).
Like Mussolini, Trump is dismissive of democratic institutions. He selfishly guards his image of a self-made outsider who will “dismantle the establishment” in the words of one of his supporters. That this includes cracking down on a free press by toughening libel laws, engaging in the ethnic cleansing of 11 million people (“illegals”), stripping away citizenship of those seen as illegitimate members of the nation (children of the “illegals”), and committing war crimes in the protection of the nation (killing the families of suspected terrorists) only enhances his stature among his supporters. The discrepancy between their love of America and these brutal and undemocratic methods does not bother them one iota. To borrow from Paxton again: “Fascism was an affair of the gut more than of the brain.” For Trump and his supporters, the struggle against “political correctness” in all its forms is more important than the fine print of the Constitution.
To be fair, there are many differences between Italian Fascism of interwar Europe and Trumpism of (soon to be) post-Obama America. For one, Mussolini was better read and more articulate than Trump. Starting out as a schoolteacher, the Italian Fascist read voraciously and was heavily influenced by the German and French philosophers Friedrich Nietzsche and Jean-Marie Guyau, respectively. I doubt Trump would know who either of these two people were. According to the Boston Globe, Trump speaks at the level of a fourth grader.
There are other more consequential differences, of course: the interwar Italy was a much bigger mess than the USA is today; the democratic institutions of this country are certainly more resilient and durable than those of the young unstable post-World War I Italy; the economy, both U.S. and worldwide, is not in the apocalyptic state it was in the interwar period; and the demographics of the USA mitigate against the election of a racist demagogue. So, Trump’s blackshirts are not marching on Washington, yet.
Also, as a historian I have learned to beware of historical analogies and generally eschew them whenever I can, particularly when it comes to an ideology that during World War II caused the deaths of 60 million human beings. The oversaturation of our discourse with Hitler comparisons is not only exasperating for any historian, but is offensive to the memory of Hitler’s many victims most notably the six million Jews his regime murdered in cold blood.
Finally, rather than explaining it, historical analogies often distort the present, sometimes with devastating consequences. The example that comes to mind is the Saddam-is-like-Hitler analogy many in the George W. Bush administration used to justify the U.S. invasion of Iraq, which was an unmitigated disaster. The overuse, or misuse, of a historical analogy can also make policy makers more hesitant to act with equally disastrous consequences: the prime examples are Bosnia and Rwanda in the 1990s when the West attributed their inaction to stop the slaughter in each country by arguing that these massacres were “not like the Holocaust.”
Thus, for a historical analogy to be useful to us, it has to advance our understanding of the present. And the Trumpism-Fascism axis (pun intended) does this in three ways: it explains the origins of Trump the demagogue; it enables us to read the Trump rally as a phenomenon in its own right; and it allows those of us who are unequivocally opposed to hate, bigotry, and intolerance, to rally around an alternative, equally historical, program: anti-fascism.
The Very Fascist Origins of Trumpism
That white supremacist groups back Donald Trump for president of the United States, and his slowness to disavow the support of David Duke, all illuminate the fascistic origins of Trump the phenomenon. In fact, Paxton acknowledges that while Fascism began in France and Italy, “the first version of the Klan in the defeated American south was arguably a remarkable preview of the way fascist movements were to function in interwar Europe.” That the KKK was drawn to the Trump candidacy, and that he refused to disavow them speak volumes about his fascistic roots.
Like Fascism, Trumpism has come about on the heels of a protracted period of ideological restlessness. Within the Republican Party this restlessness has resulted in a complete de-legitimization of the so-called GOP establishment. Benito Mussolini came to the scene in the 1920s at a time when all the known “isms” of the time had lost their mojos. Conservatism, which since the French Revolution had been advocating for monarchy, nobility, and tradition, was dealt a devastating blow by the First World War, which destroyed four major empires (Ottoman, Austro-Hungarian, Russian, and German), made universal male suffrage (mostly) the norm, and eliminated a generation of aristocrats. Although initially seen as victorious, liberalism, in its emphasis on equality, constitutions, parliaments, and civil debates, quickly proved unable to solve the mammoth problems facing Europe after the war. To the millions of unemployed, angry, and hungry Europeans, the backroom politicking and obscure party debates seemed petty at best, and deserving of destruction at worst. Shoving millions of Europeans into nation-states they saw as alien to their ethnicity created huge minority problems and sparked irredentist movements including fascists and their many copycats. The success of Lenin’s Bolsheviks in Russia and their protracted, terrifying, civil war made Communism unpalatable for most Europeans.
Enter Fascism. Fascism promised people deliverance from politics. Fascism was not just different type of politics, but anti-politics. On the post-WWI ruins of the Enlightenment beliefs in progress and essential human goodness, Fascism embraced emotion over reason, action over politics. Violence was not just a means to an end, but the end in itself because it brought man closer to his true inner nature. War was an inevitable part of this inner essence of man. Millions of European men had found this sense of purpose and camaraderie in the trenches of the First World War and were not going to sit idly by while politicians took it away from them after the war (famously, after the war Hitler was slow to demobilize and take off his uniform). Fascists’ main enemies were not just Marxist politicians, or liberal politicians, but politicians in general.
It is therefore no coincidence that the most common explanation Trump supporters muster when asked about their vote is that “he is no politician.” Trump did not invent this anti-politics mood, but he tamed it in accordance with his own needs. Ever since the election of Barack Obama the Republicans have refused to co-govern. Senator Mitch McConnell’s vow that his main purpose would be to deny the president a second term was only the first of many actions by which the Republicans have retreated from politics. The Tea Party wave meant an absolute refusal to compromise on even the most essential issues, which were central to the economic survival of the government if not the entire country (the Debt ceiling fiasco anyone?!). But since then it has gotten worse: now even the establishment Republicans who had been initially demonized by the Tea Party, such as Mitch McConnell, have openly abrogated their own constitutional powers by refusing to exercise them. This has been most evident in their blanket refusal to even hold a hearing for a Scalia replacement on the Supreme Court. In other words, the Republicans themselves, not Trump, broke politics.
The anti-intellectualism of Trump has also been a long time in the making. It was the Republican establishment that has for decades refused to even consider the science of climate change and has through local education boards strove to prevent the teaching of evolution. Although not as explicit as the Fascists were in their efforts to use the woman’s body for reproducing the nation, the Republican attempts at restricting abortion rights, and women access to healthcare in general have often been designed with the same purpose in mind. Of course American historians have pointed to this larger strand of anti-intellectualism in American politics, but what is different about this moment is that Trump has successfully wedded this anti-Enlightenment mood with the anti-political rage of the Republican base.
Still, for a fascist to be accepted as legitimate he has to move the crowd and from the very beginning of his candidacy Trump has done this by stoking racial animosity and grievances. It is no coincidence that the Trump phenomenon emerges during the tenure of the first black President. It bears remembering that Trump’s first flirtation with running for office was nothing more than his insistent, nonsensical, irrational, and blatantly racist demand that President Obama show his birth certificate and his Harvard grades. This was more than a dog whistle to the angry whites that the first black President was not only un-American, literally, but that he was intellectually inferior to them, despite graduating from Harvard Law. If one considers this “original sin” of Trump then the KKK endorsement of his candidacy and Trump’s acceptance of it seem less strange.
Like Mussolini, Trump is lucky in his timing. When Mussolini created his Fascists in 1919 there were numerous other far right, authoritarian movements popping up all over Europe. As Robert Paxton reminds us, by the early 20th century Europe had gotten “swollen” by refugees, mostly Ashkenazi Jews who had since the 1880s been escaping pogroms in Eastern Europe. Culturally and religiously different they caused reactions amongst the Europeans that are strikingly similar to the way in which many European politicians have reacted to the influx of Muslim refugees and migrants from the Middle East and North Africa. The Hungarian government’s building of a fence to prevent Muslim migrants from coming in and its rhetoric of foreign, Islamic, invasion is just one of more noted examples of Islamophobic euphoria sweeping rightwing and fascistic movements into power all across Europe. As Hugh Eakin points out in the New York Review of Books, even Denmark, the beacon of civilized, tolerant, Europe has become susceptible to the xenophobic fear mongering: hate speech now passes for mainstream discussion (the Speaker of the Danish Parliament claims Muslim migrants to be at “a lower stage of civilization”). The head of the newly elected right-wing party in Poland, Jarosław Kaczyński, has described migrants as “parasites” who bring diseases.”
Thus, it is no coincidence that Trump often references the refugee crisis to point to the ineptitude of European politicians and to simultaneously warn of a yet another jihadist terrorist attack. Trump would feel perfectly at home in the company of the new generation of European authoritarians like Viktor Orban of Hungary or Vladimir Putin of Russia. He does not care that Putin considers America Russia’s historic enemy because for Trump the real enemy is within.
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American Jewish Committee Associate Executive Director for Policy Jason Isaacson: “We are deeply disturbed by the nativist racism inherent in the candidate’s latest remarks.”
B’nai B’rith International: “Singling out an entire religious community for diminished rights amounts to bigotry, and it should not be accepted.”
Conference of Presidents of Major American Jewish Organizations, the umbrella organization of the American Jewish community on foreign policy matters, did not issue any public statement after Trump’s remarks. But reached by telephone, Executive Vice Chairman Malcolm Hoenlein told JTA, “Obviously we reject what he said. It’s a given.”
Rabbinical Council of America (Orthodox) President Rabbi Shalom Baum: “The complex issues that face us in ensuring the safety and security from terror of innocents and free societies throughout the world need to be addressed, but need to be done in sober and responsible ways. We call upon all Americans and the United States government to recognize the threats posed by radical Islamists, while preserving and protecting the rights of all people who seek peace, no matter how they worship God.”
Rabbinical Assembly (Conservative): “We recognize the need to be vigilant in providing security and protection from those who seek to do our country harm, but discriminating against an entire religion is wrong and dangerous.”
Religious Action Center of Reform Judaism Director Rabbi Jonah Dov Pesner: “While we take no position on Mr. Trump’s candidacy for president, we condemn in the strongest terms his comments calling for barring the entry of Muslims into the United States. As Jews who too often suffered persecution because of our faith, we cannot abide religious bigotry.”
Reconstructionist Rabbinical Association: “We call on all Jews and all Americans to denounce hate speech and fear-mongering against Muslims in politics and the media, and to reach out in support of Muslim Americans in every way that we can.”
Trump has often used pro-Israel rhetoric.
He called Israel America’s best and most reliable friend, and argued that it should be viewed as the cornerstone of US policy in the Middle East. He has accused Obama and US Secretary of State John Kerry of “selling Israel out,” and said that the US should do everything possible to protect and defend it. “They’ve always been there for us and we should be there for them,” he declared. “They are the only stable democracy in a region that is not run by dictators. They are pioneers in medicine and communication and a close fair trading partner.” And, like his father, he said, he had always been loyal to Israel and “would do more for Israel than anybody else.”
Trump highlights the facts that he served as grand marshal for the Israel parade in New York in 2004 and that he has received many awards from American Jewish organizations for his support of Israel. Last February, on receiving such an award from the Algemeiner, a Jewish news organization, he said, “We love Israel. We will fight for Israel 100 percent, 1,000 percent. It will be there forever.” On June 16, when he declared his candidacy, Trump vehemently attacked the Iran nuclear deal calling it “a disaster” that could threaten Israel’s survival. In the background, there was also a close personal connection between Trump and Netanyahu. Before the 2013 Israeli election, Trump recorded a 30-second video message endorsing the Likud leader. “You truly have a great prime minister in Benjamin Netanyahu. He’s a winner, he’s highly respected, he’s highly thought of by all. Vote for Benjamin – terrific guy, terrific leader, great for Israel,” he enthused.
On the other hand, Trump’s statements on prisoners of war, Jewish campaign contributions, immigration and entry to the US have touched on a very raw Jewish nerve. On John McCain, who spent six years as a POW in Vietnam and refused early release when his captors discovered that his father was an admiral, Trump flippantly said he was “a war hero only because he got captured. I like people who weren’t captured.” In Israel the nation as a whole cares about its POWs and the government invests huge resources in attempts to release them. The protracted and ultimately successful effort to free Gilad Schalit, a soldier who was captured and held hostage for five years by Hamas in Gaza, well illustrates this ethos. On December 3, Trump told members of the Republican Jewish Coalition that he suspects many members won’t back him because he is rich and doesn’t want their contributions. Trump may have thought he was making a joke, but the Israeli media saw his comments as reinforcing anti-Semitic stereotyping of Jews as rich people who “control the world” and can “buy” elections with their money.
Trump has also made highly provocative and controversial statements on immigration and entry to the US. On June 16, he said that Mexico is sending in people bringing drugs, crime and rape. Later he extended this observation to include immigration from other Latin American countries. And after the recent San Bernardino massacre, he called for a temporary ban on the entry of Muslims to the US, until the government figures out “what the hell is going on.” Jews, who have suffered from closed immigration gates and been saved by open ones, find these statements appalling. Mass Jewish immigration from Russia and Eastern Europe to the US, Palestine and other countries, especially from the beginning of the 20th century, saved Jews from pogroms, persecution and oppression. Mass Jewish immigration from the Arab countries to Israel after the 1948 War of Independence saved them from a similar fate. On the other hand, before, during and immediately after the Second World War, Jews trying to flee Nazi Germany or occupied Europe were refused entry to many countries, including the US.
Millions perished. Therefore, Jews cannot but protest a wholesale, religion-based ban on entry to the US. Indeed, many Jewish organizations in the US, as well as political and religious groups in Israel, overwhelmingly rejected Trump’s call for a ban on the entry of Muslims to the US. TRUMP HAD intended to visit Israel and meet Netanyahu on December 28. The parties had agreed on the itinerary two weeks before Trump’s Muslim ban statement. Thirty- seven Knesset members, all but two from the opposition, strongly criticized Trump’s proposed blanket ban on Muslim entry and urged Netanyahu to cancel their meeting in protest. Netanyahu rejected this demand but issued a critical statement of his own: “The State of Israel respects all religions and strictly guarantees the rights of all its citizens. At the same time, Israel is fighting against militant Islam that targets Muslims, Christians and Jews alike and threatens the entire world.” His office went on to explain his policy on meeting presidential candidates.
“The Prime Minister decided earlier this year on a uniform policy to agree to meet with all presidential candidates from either party who visit Israel and ask for a meeting.” It further clarified that “this policy does not reflect support for the candidates or their policies, but rather expresses the importance that the Prime Minister attributes to the strong alliance between Israel and the United States.” However, in response to the critical furor in Israel, Trump postponed his visit until after the presidential elections, claiming that he did not want to place Netanyahu “under pressure.”
Trump had hoped his visit to Israel on the eve of the Republican primaries would bolster his lead in the race. He wanted to project interest and knowledge in national security and foreign affairs, especially in the Middle East, the No. 1 source of violence, terrorism and instability in the world. He also wanted to garner legitimacy for his controversial positions on the region, and to contrast his support for Israel with what he called the Obama administration’s abandonment of the Jewish state. The strategy made sense, but the injudicious Muslim ban statement undermined any chance of successfully implementing it. Had Trump stuck to his plan, the protests and demonstrations in its wake would almost certainly have rendered it counterproductive.
Trump has certainly been exploiting the weaknesses and confusion in Obama’s handling of Israel, Islamic extremism and terrorism. The president’s blaming only Israel for the impasse in Israeli-Palestinian negotiations has only strengthened Palestinian recalcitrance. The delay in defining the San Bernardino massacre as terrorism, Obama’s refusal to use the term “Islamic terrorism” and his pathetic attempts to characterize the Islamic State organization as non-Muslim reveal an acute denial of both American and Middle Eastern realities. Indeed, American Jews have been disappointed by Obama. In the 2008 elections, they voted for him by a ratio of 78 percent to 22 percent; in 2012, this had dropped to 69 percent to 30 percent. Gallup’s surveys show that in 2008, 71 percent of American Jews identified themselves as Democrats or leaning to the Democratic Party, while 22 percent identified themselves as Republicans or leaning to the Republican party. In 2014, this ratio dropped to 61 percent to 29 percent.
Over the past decade, Republicans have generally been more supportive of Israel than Democrats. The trend began around 2000, almost 10 years before Netanyahu was reelected prime minister. Nevertheless, none of this is likely to help Trump. Most American Jews will still vote for the Democratic nominee. If Trump is selected as the Republican candidate, even more American Jews are likely to vote for his opponent. After Obama, Netanyahu would have liked to see a Republican in the White House. Nevertheless, despite his strong pro-Israel stance, given his character and controversial positions, Donald Trump may not be the best choice to repair American- Israeli relations in the post-Obama era.
America also retained a high degree of social and cultural heterogeneity in its communities. Tocqueville wrote of America in the 1830s as a place where “the more opulent citizens take great care not to stand aloof from the people.” That continued well into the 20th century, even in America’s elite neighborhoods. In the 1960 census, the median income along Philadelphia’s Main Line was just $90,000 in today’s dollars. In Boston’s Brookline, it was $75,000; on New York’s Upper East Side, just $60,000. At a typical dinner party in those neighborhoods, many guests would have had no more than a high-school diploma.
In the years since, the new upper class has evolved a distinctive culture. For a half-century, America’s elite universities have drawn the most talented people from all over the country, socialized them and often married them off to each other. Brains have become radically more valuable in the marketplace. In 2016, a dinner party in those same elite neighborhoods consists almost wholly of people with college degrees, even advanced degrees. They are much more uniformly affluent. The current median family incomes for the Main Line, Brookline and the Upper East Side are about $150,000, $151,000 and $203,000, respectively.
And the conversation at that dinner party is likely to be completely unlike the conversations at get-togethers in mainstream America. The members of the new upper class are seldom attracted to the films, TV shows and music that are most popular in mainstream America. They have a distinctive culture in the food they eat, the way they take care of their health, their child-rearing practices, the vacations they take, the books they read, the websites they visit and their taste in beer. You name it, the new upper class has its own way of doing it.
For its part, mainstream America is fully aware of this condescension and contempt and is understandably irritated by it. American egalitarianism is on its last legs. While the new upper class was seceding from the mainstream, a new lower class was emerging from within the white working class, and it has played a key role in creating the environment in which Trumpism has flourished. Work and marriage have been central to American civic culture since the founding, and this held true for the white working class into the 1960s. Almost all of the adult men were working or looking for work, and almost all of them were married.
Then things started to change. For white working-class men in their 30s and 40s—what should be the prime decades for working and raising a family—participation in the labor force dropped from 96% in 1968 to 79% in 2015. Over that same period, the portion of these men who were married dropped from 86% to 52%. (The numbers for nonwhite working-class males show declines as well, though not as steep and not as continuous.)
In these communities, about half the children are born to unmarried women, with all the problems that go with growing up without fathers, especially for boys. Drugs also have become a major problem, in small towns as well as in urban areas. Consider how these trends have affected life in working-class communities for everyone, including those who are still playing by the old rules. They find themselves working and raising their families in neighborhoods where the old civic culture is gone—neighborhoods that are no longer friendly or pleasant or even safe.
These major changes in American class structure were taking place alongside another sea change: large-scale ideological defection from the principles of liberty and individualism, two of the pillars of the American creed. This came about in large measure because of the civil rights and feminist movements, both of which began as classic invocations of the creed, rightly demanding that America make good on its ideals for blacks and women.
But the success of both movements soon produced policies that directly contradicted the creed. Affirmative action demanded that people be treated as groups. Equality of outcome trumped equality before the law. Group-based policies continued to multiply, with ever more policies embracing ever more groups. By the beginning of the 1980s, Democratic elites overwhelmingly subscribed to an ideology in open conflict with liberty and individualism as traditionally understood. This consolidated the Democratic Party’s longtime popularity with ethnic minorities, single women and low-income women, but it alienated another key Democratic constituency: the white working class.
But the central truth of Trumpism as a phenomenon is that the entire American working class has legitimate reasons to be angry at the ruling class. During the past half-century of economic growth, virtually none of the rewards have gone to the working class. The economists can supply caveats and refinements to that statement, but the bottom line is stark: The real family income of people in the bottom half of the income distribution hasn’t increased since the late 1960s.
During the same half-century, American corporations exported millions of manufacturing jobs, which were among the best-paying working-class jobs. They were and are predominantly men’s jobs. In both 1968 and 2015, 70% of manufacturing jobs were held by males. During the same half-century, the federal government allowed the immigration, legal and illegal, of tens of millions of competitors for the remaining working-class jobs. Apart from agriculture, many of those jobs involve the construction trades or crafts. They too were and are predominantly men’s jobs: 77% in 1968 and 84% in 2015.
Economists still argue about the net effect of these events on the American job market. But for someone living in a town where the big company has shut the factory and moved the jobs to China, or for a roofer who has watched a contractor hire illegal immigrants because they are cheaper, anger and frustration are rational. Add to this the fact that white working-class men are looked down upon by the elites and get little validation in their own communities for being good providers, fathers and spouses—and that life in their communities is falling apart. To top it off, the party they have voted for in recent decades, the Republicans, hasn’t done a damn thing to help them. Who wouldn’t be angry?
There is nothing conservative about how they want to fix things. They want a now indifferent government to act on their behalf, big time. If Bernie Sanders were passionate about immigration, the rest of his ideology would have a lot more in common with Trumpism than conservatism does. As a political matter, it is not a problem that Mr. Sanders doesn’t share the traditional American meanings of liberty and individualism. Neither does Mr. Trump. Neither, any longer, do many in the white working class. They have joined the other defectors from the American creed.
Who continues to embrace this creed in its entirety? Large portions of the middle class and upper middle class (especially those who run small businesses), many people in the corporate and financial worlds and much of the senior leadership of the Republican Party. They remain principled upholders of the ideals of egalitarianism, liberty and individualism. And let’s not forget moderate Democrats, the spiritual legatees of the New Deal. They may advocate social democracy, but they are also unhappy about policies that treat Americans as members of groups and staunch in their support of freedom of speech, individual moral responsibility and the kind of egalitarianism that Tocqueville was talking about. They still exist in large numbers, though mostly in the political closet.
But these are fragments of the population, not the national consensus that bound the U.S. together for the first 175 years of the nation’s existence. And just as support for the American creed has shrunk, so has its correspondence to daily life. Our vaunted liberty is now constrained by thousands of petty restrictions that touch almost anything we want to do, individualism is routinely ignored in favor of group rights, and we have acquired an arrogant upper class. Operationally as well as ideologically, the American creed is shattered.
Our national identity is not altogether lost. Americans still have a vivid, distinctive national character in the eyes of the world. Historically, America has done a far better job than any other country of socializing people of many different ethnicities into displaying our national character. We will still be identifiably American for some time to come.
We’re in the midst of a rebellion. The bottom and middle are pushing against the top. It’s a throwing off of old claims and it’s been going on for a while, but we’re seeing it more sharply after New Hampshire. This is not politics as usual, which by its nature is full of surprise. There’s something deep, suggestive, even epochal about what’s happening now.
I have thought for some time that there’s a kind of soft French Revolution going on in America, with the angry and blocked beginning to push hard against an oblivious elite. It is not only political. Yes, it is about the Democratic National Committee, that house of hacks, and about a Republican establishment owned by the donor class. But establishment journalism, which for eight months has been simultaneously at Donald Trump’s feet (“Of course you can call us on your cell from the bathtub for your Sunday show interview!”) and at his throat (“Trump supporters, many of whom are nativists and nationalists . . .”) is being rebelled against too. Their old standing as guides and gatekeepers? Gone, and not only because of multiplying platforms. Gloria Steinem thought she owned feminism, thought she was feminism. She doesn’t and isn’t. The Clintons thought they owned the party—they don’t. Hedge-funders thought they owned the GOP. Too bad they forgot to buy the base!
All this goes hand in hand with the general decline of America’s faith in its institutions. We feel less respect for almost all of them—the church, the professions, the presidency, the Supreme Court. The only formal national institution that continues to score high in terms of public respect (72% in the most recent Gallup poll) is the military.
A few years ago I gave a lecture to a class at West Point, the text of which was: You are entering the only U.S. institution left standing. Your prime responsibility throughout your careers will be to keep it respected. I then told them about the Dreyfus case. They had not heard of it. I explained how that scandal rocked public faith in a previously exalted institution, the French army, doing it and France lasting damage. And so your personal integrity is of the utmost importance, I said, as day by day that integrity creates the integrity of the military. The cadets actually listened to that part.
I mention this to say we are in a precarious position in the U.S. with so many of our institutions going down. Many of those pushing against the system have no idea how precarious it is or what they will be destroying. Those defending it don’t know how precarious its position is or even what they’re defending, or why. But people lose respect for a reason. To New Hampshire: The rejection of the establishment’s preferred candidates in both major parties is a big moment. It is also understandable, the result of 15 years of failed presidencies. It is a gesture of rebuke toward the political class—move aside.
It’s said this is the year of anger but there’s a kind of grim practicality to Trump and Sanders supporters. They’re thinking: Let’s take a chance. Washington is incapable of reform or progress; it’s time to reach outside. Let’s take a chance on an old Brooklyn socialist. Let’s take a chance on the casino developer who talks on TV. In doing so, they accept a decline in traditional political standards. You don’t have to have a history of political effectiveness anymore; you don’t even have to have run for office! “You’re so weirdly outside the system, you may be what the system needs.”
They are pouring their hope into uncertain vessels, and surely know it. Bernie Sanders is an actual radical: He would fundamentally change an economic system that imperfectly but for two centuries made America the wealthiest country in the history of the world. In the young his support is understandable: They have never been taught anything good about capitalism and in their lifetimes have seen it do nothing—nothing—to protect its own reputation.
It is middle-aged Sanders supporters who are more interesting. They know what they’re turning their backs on. They know they’re throwing in the towel. My guess is they’re thinking something like: Don’t aim for great now, aim for safe. Terrorism, a world turning upside down, my kids won’t have it better—let’s just try to be safe, more communal.
A shrewdness in Sanders and Trump backers: They share one faith in Washington, and that is in its ability to wear anything down. They think it will moderate Bernie, take the edges off Trump. For thus reason they don’t see their choices as so radical. As for Mr. Trump, it is not without meaning that his supporters have had eight months to measure the cost of satisfying their anger by voting for him. In New Hampshire, 35% of the electorate decided that for all his drama and uncertainty they would back him.
The mainstream journalistic mantra is that the GOP is succumbing to nativism, nationalism and the culture of celebrity. That allows them to avoid taking seriously Mr. Trump’s issues: illegal immigration and Washington’s 15-year, bipartisan refusal to stop it; political correctness and how it is strangling a free people; and trade policies that have left the American working class displaced, adrift and denigrated. Mr. Trump’s popularity is propelled by those issues and enabled by his celebrity.
In winning, Donald Trump threw over the GOP donor class. Political professionals don’t fully appreciate that, but normal Americans see it. They get that the guy with money just slapped silly the guys with money. Every hedge-fund billionaire donor should be blinking in pain. Some investment! This leads me to Citizens United. Conservatives applauded that Supreme Court decision because it allowed Republicans to counter the effect of union money that goes to Democrats. But Citizens United gave the rich too much sway in the GOP. The party was better off when it relied on Main Street. It meant they had to talk to Main Street.
Mr. Trump is a clever man with his finger on the pulse, but his political future depends on two big questions. The first is: Is he at all a good man? Underneath the foul mouthed flamboyance is he in it for America? The second: Is he fully stable? He acts like a nut, calling people bimbos, flying off the handle with grievances. Is he mature, reliable? Is he at all a steady hand?
Political professionals think these are side questions. “Let’s accuse him of not being conservative!” But they are the issue. Because America doesn’t deliberately elect people it thinks base, not to mention crazy.
Source: http://www.salon.com/2016/01
Source: http://truth-out.org/opinion/item/14011-exposed-how-the-billionaires-class-is-destroying-democracy
Overview
A new national survey by Pew Research Center, based on more than 6,000 interviews conducted between August 27 and October 4, 2015, finds that public attitudes about government and politics defy easy categorization. The study builds upon previous reports about the government’s role and performance in 2010 and 1998. This report was made possible by The Pew Charitable Trusts, which received support for the survey from The William and Flora Hewlett Foundation. The partisan divide over the size and scope of government remains as wide as ever: Support for smaller government endures as a Republican touchstone. Fully 80% of Republicans and Republican-leaning independents say they prefer a smaller government with fewer services, compared with just 31% of Democrats and Democratic leaners.
Yet both Republicans and Democrats favor significant government involvement on an array of specific issues. Among the public overall, majorities say the federal government should have a major role in dealing with 12 of 13 issues included in the survey, all except advancing space exploration. There is bipartisan agreement that the federal government should play a major role in dealing with terrorism, natural disasters, food and medicine safety, and roads and infrastructure. And while the presidential campaign has exposed sharp partisan divisions over immigration policy, large majorities of both Republicans (85%) and Democrats (80%) say the government should have a major role in managing the immigration system. But the partisan differences over government’s appropriate role are revealing – with the widest gaps on several issues relating to the social safety net.
Only about a third of Republicans and Republican leaners see a major role for the federal government in helping people get out of poverty (36%) and ensuring access to health care (34%), by far the lowest percentages for any of the 13 issues tested. Fully 72% of Democrats and Democratic leaners say the government should have a major role in helping people out of poverty, and 83% say it should play a major role in ensuring access to health care. Moreover, while majorities of Republicans favor a major government role in ensuring a basic income for people 65 and older (59%), protecting the environment (58%) and ensuring access to high-quality education (55%), much larger shares of Democrats – 80% or more in each case – favor a large government role. However, these differences are a matter of degree. Overwhelming numbers of Republicans and Democrats say the federal government should have either a major or minor role on all 13 issues tested. Relatively few in either party want the government to have no role in these issues, though 20% of Republicans say the government should have no role in ensuring health care.
Dramatically, the Arab world has been swept by a revolutionary spring, though one that is rapidly becoming a chilly winter. Indeed, for the most part, the new regimes are combining the old authoritarianism with Islamism, resulting in further social stagnation, resentment and instability. Even more remarkable, however, are the social — and antisocial — grassroots demonstrations that are mushrooming in affluent Western societies. These protests have two major causes.
Source: http://indrus.in/articles/2012/03/16/the_age_of_authoritarian_democracy_15173.html
“And now they’re coming for your social security. They want your retirement money. They want it back so they can give it to their criminal friends on Wall Street. And you know something? They’ll get it. They’ll get it all sooner or later because they own this place.” Gorge Carlin, writer, critic and comedian.
Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052970203471004577140713653796308.html
Source: http://news.rpi.edu/update.do?artcenterkey=2721&setappvar=page(1)
They know what's best for the country
The United States may be a republic, but it’s democracy that Americans cherish. After all, that’s why we got into Iraq, right? To take out a dictator and spread democracy. “Government of the people, by the people, for the people.” “One person, one vote.” We are an egalitarian society that treasures the mandate of its citizenry. But more than a decade’s worth research suggests that the citizenry is too dumb to pick the best leaders. Work by Cornell University psychologist David Dunning and then-colleague Justin Kruger found that “incompetent people are inherently unable to judge the competence of other people, or the quality of those people’s ideas,” according to a report by Life’s Little Mysteries on the blog LiveScience.
Source: http://blog.sfgate.com/nov05election/2012/03/09/scientists-say-america-is-too-dumb-for-democracy-to-thrive/
Source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB10001424052702303836404577474312596058338.html
Source: http://www.nytimes.com/2011/02/12/opinion/12herbert.html?partner=rss&emc=rss
But before aspiring officeholders can be seen as worthy of public affection, they first must be seen. Reality-TV star Donald Trump is a modern-day master at capturing public notice, but he is no trailblazer. Those seeking power have always found ways to achieve celebrity. Romans vying for office bleached their togas a brilliant white, making them stand out. Candidates also surrounded themselves with throngs of supporters to attract maximum attention. The “social media” campaigns of Julius Caesar and Augustus featured flattering portraits displayed in public places. After being elected, they stamped their profiles on coins to further enhance their celebrity.
Star power fueled narcissism then as it does now. Julius Caesar was a deft schmoozer, adept at working the crowd. Affable and adored by soldiers, he was the kind of guy you could drink the famed Falernian wine with. But his narcissism undermined him. Caesar became hated for his arrogance, and dozens of Roman senators joined the conspiracy to assassinate him.
Winning political arguments has always required style, not just substance. And nobody in the age of the Republic was better at style than Cato the Censor. As the Senate debated around 149 B.C. what action to take against its old foe Carthage, Cato produced a cluster of grapes from the folds of his toga. He declared, no doubt falsely, that they had been picked in Carthage the same day. His dramatic performance worked. Though Carthage hadn’t posed a serious threat for over half a century, Cato energized his compatriots’ fears of its resurgence, silenced critics and shaped a docile following. Rome declared war and finally destroyed Carthage in 146 B.C.
Charismatic leaders are good actors. Whether facing constituents, competitors or enemies, they present themselves as dominant and fit. When Gaius Popilius Laenas first encountered the Seleucid King Antiochus IV in 168 B.C., he used a stick to draw a circle in the sand around the king. He ordered him not to cross it until he agreed to do Rome’s bidding. Intimidated by the brazen act, the king acquiesced. Roman leaders knew that anger stunts contemplation. Opponents excoriated one another with vitriolic insults. Cicero accused Mark Antony of having been a male prostitute in his youth and of frequenting brothels later in life. Such slurs, difficult to disprove, distracted attention from Antony’s achievements and Cicero’s flaws.
Shared feelings and actions have always been used by charismatic leaders to bring people together in common cause. At Julius Caesar’s funeral Mark Antony whipped mourners into a collective frenzy by revealing the dead man’s lacerated body. Today the synchronous chants of “Bernie!” and “Hillary!” or the contagious booing and applauding at the Republican debates help transform individuals into easy-to-lead collectives. Overstating the threat posed by “outsiders” also reinforces the common identity of the “insiders.” Octavian, the future Emperor Augustus, suggested around 33 B.C. that his rival, Mark Antony, had become the plaything of the enemy’s most famous seductress, Queen Cleopatra of Egypt. Octavian warned that if Antony came to power, then a foreigner would become Rome’s queen. Now Mr. Trump professes concern that the Canadian-born Ted Cruz could become president.
As the politically savvy Quintus understood, voters are romanced more by appearance than reality. Roman leaders knew that politics is theater, and much depends on the power of the script and the stardom and charisma of the performer. In this sense, political figures through the ages are cut from the same bleached cloth.
Mr. Garland is a classics professor, and Ms. Keating a psychology professor, at Colgate University.
Source: http://www.cnn.com/2012/02/15/opinion/wertheimer-super-pacs/
The author points out that the Bilderberg Club is not acting alone. It has influential secret partners — two groups of "global power brokers": the US-based Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) and The Trilateral Commission, founded in 1973 by David Rockefeller, who is at the same time a leading Bilderberger and CFR Chairman Emeritus. The triple alliance is advocating a global super state with the US and other nations ceding their sovereignty to a global central power.
After sifting through nearly 1,800 US policies enacted in that period and comparing them to the expressed preferences of average Americans (50th percentile of income), affluent Americans (90th percentile) and large special interests groups, researchers concluded that the United States is dominated by its economic elite. The peer-reviewed study, which will be taught at these universities in September, says: "The central point that emerges from our research is that economic elites and organised groups representing business interests have substantial independent impacts on US government policy, while mass-based interest groups and average citizens have little or no independent influence."
Researchers concluded that US government policies rarely align with the the preferences of the majority of Americans, but do favour special interests and lobbying organisations: "When a majority of citizens disagrees with economic elites and/or with organised interests, they generally lose. Moreover, because of the strong status quo bias built into the US political system, even when fairly large majorities of Americans favour policy change, they generally do not get it."
Source: http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/worldnews/northamerica/usa/10769041/The-US-is-an-oligarchy-study-concludes.html
Source: http://www.huffingtonpost.com/bruce-e-levine/the-myth-of-us-democracy-corporatocracy_b_836573.html
Source: http://www.forbes.com/sites/robertlenzner/2014/01/26/those-with-affluence-have-all-the-influence-in-america/#75f260e13b6d
Even as domestic politics in many developing nations has become less friendly to democratization, the international system too has changed, further weakening democratic hopes. The rising strength of authoritarian powers, principally China but also Russia, Saudi Arabia, and other states, has helped forestall democratization. Moscow and Beijing were clearly rattled by the “color revolutions” of the early and mid-2000s, and they developed a number of responses. First, they tried to delegitimize the revolts by arguing that they were not genuine popular movements but actually Western attempts at regime change. Then, in nations like Cambodia, Ukraine, Georgia, Kyrgyzstan, and Moldova, Moscow and Beijing intervened directly in attempts to reverse democratic gains. The Kremlin’s youth group, Nashi, known for its aggressive tactics against democracy activists, launched branches in other Central Asian nations. In Kyrgyzstan, Russian advisers helped a series of leaders emulate the Kremlin’s model of political control. In part because of this Russian influence, “[p]arliamentary democracy in Kyrgyzstan has been hobbled,” according to the International Crisis Group. China and Russia even created new “NGOs” that were supposedly focused on democracy promotion. But these organizations actually offered expertise and funding to foreign leaders to help them forestall new color revolutions. In Ukraine, an organization called the “Russian Press Club,” run by an adviser to Putin, posed as an NGO and helped facilitate Russia’s involvement in Ukrainian elections.
There is an obvious appeal to the constantly touted notion that the march of human freedom is inevitable. But not only is it simple-minded to treat history as a story with a preordained happy ending; it is also, for those who truly want to see democracy spread, extraordinarily dangerous. After all, if democracy is bound to triumph, then there’s no reason to work too hard at promoting it. This overconfidence can spread to developing nations themselves, lulling democrats into a false sense of security once an election has finally been held, and dissuading them from building the institutions that are necessary to keep a country free over the long-term. Democracy is not a simple thing: It’s a complex system of strong institutions and legal checks. Very few nations have mastered it fully. And sustaining it is a never-ending effort.
Source: http://www.newrepublic.com/article/world/magazine/88632/failing-democracy-venezuela-arab-spring
Part1
America’s bloodless coup d’état of 1987
League President Nancy M. Neuman issued a powerful farewell statement that should have rattled the US electorate to the very bone: "The League of Women Voters is withdrawing its sponsorship of the presidential debate scheduled for mid-October because the demands of the two campaign organizations would perpetrate a fraud on the American voter." Neuman continued with a degree of candor not commonly found in the halls of power these days. She urged Bush and Dukakis to "rise above your handlers and agree to join us in presenting the fair and full discussion the American public expects of a League of Women Voters debate. "The League has no intention of becoming an accessory to the hoodwinking of the American public."
Ralph Nader, politician and social activist, argued that the CPD had created a virtual two-party dictatorship in the ‘land of the free.’ “The two parties created the debate commission. It’s a private company. And they have set the rules,” Nader told the Center for Public Integrity. “So if they shut you out of the national presidential debates, there is no way…of reaching people — just no way. So it’s a two-party elected dictatorship.” Nader has certainly not been the only victim of the CPD death grip on the US political system. In the 1996 elections, Republican Bob Dole and President Bill Clinton, with the connivance of the CPD, had managed to keep billionaire Ross Perot out of the debates, even though a huge number of voters (18 percent) said they wanted the self-made billionaire’s opinions heard.
Corporate McFascists destroying the America Dream
Is America approaching Fascism?
Source: http://rt.com/op-edge/263269-us-politics-fascism-elections/
The story from Wisconsin concerns the secret signing of two laws, which Common Cause of Wisconsin called an “assault on democracy in Wisconsin,” that “sets good government back to the 19th Century,” while Rep. Terese Berceau, a Democrat, earlier called the bills nothing short of “an effort to create a permanent one-party state.” The story out of Michigan is about the sort of dire consequences that can come from such crippling of democracy: specifically, how the state, via the dictatorial rule of an appointed “emergency manager,” actively, horrifically poisoned the young children of Flint with lead, leading the mayor to declare a state of emergency in hopes of getting the state and federal assistance her citizens so desperately need. It wasn’t just the young children, of course, but young children are the ones most heavily impacted, their thinking ability impaired for the rest of their lives. The story from Flint is most shocking and devastating, but it cannot be understood outside of the larger framework, which is why I’ll turn to the Wisconsin story first, where that framework itself is the story, and deal with Flint’s story in a followup.
First, a short note about what I mean by “Dixiefication.” It’s a complex process—economically, a regressive shift toward low-wage, deregulated oligopoly; culturally, an anti-modernist shift toward backwards-looking, fear-infused myth and fantasy obsession; politically, an authoritarian shift toward culture war, demonization, exclusion, and erosion of accountability. It’s been reflected in both states in a variety of ways—for example, both Michigan and Wisconsin have become so-called “right to work” states since 2010—a hallmark anti-labor measure pioneered in the South, which severely weakens both the bargaining power and political influence of unions. But what most clearly situated their Dixiefication in national politics was their key roles in the extreme anti-democratic gerrymandering that helped the GOP keep control of the House in 2012, despite losing the popular vote for House seats by more than half a million votes—which at the same time gave them a stranglehold on state government ever since.
From Union-Busting to Election-Busting
Although other aspects were also present, in Wisconsin its dynamic was centrally driven by its core economic logic, a drive toward a corporate-friendly, low-wage, Deep South-style economy, as described by Ed Kilgore in relationship to Governor Scott Walker’s purported “budget bill” aimed at crippling public employee unions. That bill began the story, which culminated in the recent secret bill signings giving free rein to political corruption in Wisconsin—another common feature of Dixiefication. The budget bill sparked massive protests and a powerful recall movement, which Walker survived with massive outside spending assistance from dark-money groups, which in turn led to a judge-supervised, grand jury-like “John Doe” investigation looking into potentially illegal coordination and campaign contributions between Walker’s campaign with outside dark money groups. The probe was halted last July by a controversial 4-2 decision by the ethically compromised Wisconsin Supreme Court, which effectively gutted Wisconsin campaign finance law. Two of the justices involved had received substantial support from Walker’s backers, but refused to recuse themselves from the case—a further demonstration of Wisconsin’s rapid slide into corruption.
In October, Republicans introduced three bills to consolidate and extend the damage the court had done. The first, passed that month, prohibited John Doe investigations of political corruption. The other two were just signed into law by Walker on Dec. 16, cementing the GOP’s power grab into place. One eviscerates state campaign finance laws, retroactively legalizing everything Walker and his allies did, and allowing virtually unlimited corporate spending. The other gets rid of the state’s highly respected Government Accountability Board—a nonpartisan body composed of six retired judges overseeing elections, campaign finance, ethics and lobbying, considered a model for other states—and replaces it with two partisan-appointed bodies, designed for FEC-like gridlock at best. “The destruction of the eight-year-old, non-partisan Government Accountability Board was based on completely discredited charges, false premises, character assassination and outright falsehoods,” Common Cause of Wisconsin charged, adding:
The entire process under which Assembly Bills 387 and 388 were first unveiled in October, fast-tracked through a single public hearing in Madison only, and then rammed through committees and rushed to the floor of the Wisconsin Assembly and slammed through, before being stalled for a week in the State Senate, has been among the most abusive, disrespectful, secretive and utterly anti-democratic in the history of the Wisconsin Legislature.
The Role of Money
Even before the union-busting budget bill was taken up, Walker had signed $117 million in tax cuts. When his first two-year budget bill was signed in June 2011, Citizens for Tax Justice reported that cuts to Medicaid and a range of other programs “amount to $2 billion worth of support yanked out from underneath the working poor. Yet, in his frenzy of service cuts, Governor Walker somehow found room for $2.3 billion in tax breaks over the next decade.” The big picture here is straight out of the scenario Kilgore described when, during the initial union-busting battle, he wrote:
Walker also has an economic vision for his state….based on a theory of economic growth that is not only anti-statist but aggressively pro-corporate: relentlessly focused on breaking the backs of unions; slashing worker compensation and benefits; and subsidizing businesses in order to attract capital from elsewhere and avoid its flight to even more benighted locales….. [S]tudents of American economic history will recognize it as the “Moonlight and Magnolias” model of development, which is native to the Deep South.
The Wisconsin vote captured national attention, and a flood of out-of-state money. Of the $63.5 million spent, $45 million came from Walker’s campaign and supporters, according to the Wisconsin Democracy Campaign. The record spending total was made possible thanks to the Citizens United U.S. Supreme Court decision—which had the effect of invalidating Wisconsin’s century-old ban on independent expenditures by corporations and unions—and a state law that allowed unlimited contributions to the incumbent in recall elections.
In one case, Walker’s administration urged WEDC to give a $500,000 unsecured loan to a company owned by Bill Minahan, who a few months earlier had maxed-out on contributions to Walker’s campaign. The Minahan loan didn’t go through the underwriting required by law, and his company ultimately went bust, with the taxpayer-funded half-million-dollar loan not being repaid. WEDC handed out hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars in the form of bonds, grants, loans, and tax credits to Walker donors, and could only account for 5,680 jobs as of 2014, according to a Center for Media and Democracy analysis.
The other centerpiece of Walker’s job creation effort was a rewrite of the state environmental laws to pave the way for a Florida-based mining company, Gogebic Taconite, to build an open-pit iron ore mine in a pristine area of Northern Wisconsin. A year after the proposal became law, documents emerged in the John Doe probe showing that G-Tac’s CEO had secretly donated more than $700,000 to a dark money group associated with Scott Walker’s campaign. The public and press had no knowledge of these contributions as the hotly-contested mining bill was being debated; the secret donations were more than 22 times the amount of disclosed contributions to candidates.
On the other side, Fischer noted a small handful of well-funded groups supporting the three laws introduced in October. The only group lobbying to support the bill replacing the GAB was David Koch’s Americans for Prosperity, which also lobbied for the bill exempting political corruption from John Doe investigations, along with Wisconsin Family Action, “a group that was implicated in the John Doe probe,” Fischer noted. The third bill’s supporters were an instructive bit of a suprise. The avowedly pro-corporate groups stayed out of it, with the forced childbirth group, Wisconsin Right to Life, taking the lead instead. Tellingly, however, their executive director was a former AFP leader. In summary, Fischer wrote, “[These special interest groups], funded by out-of-state billionaires like the Koch brothers, are apparently calling the shots within the Wisconsin legislature, regardless of what voters think.” And with these new laws in place, that will only become more commonplace in the years ahead.
In other words, despite losing by 22 points in votes, Clinton still managed to win the total delegate count in New Hampshire, 15-13. And it’s these delegates who decide who the Democratic presidential nominee will be, not majority vote. This story isn’t limited to the Granite State either. All across the country, Clinton holds a massive lead in the overall delegate count due to the overwhelming support from these Democratic superdelegates.
Before a single voter had showed up at a caucus or a booth, Clinton had amassed 392 delegates to her side. The magic number to clinch the nomination is 2,382. So with this guaranteed insider support, the Clinton campaign’s tie in Iowa and crushing defeat in New Hampshire matter little — she’s still at 431 total delegates, 18% of the way to the party nomination and over eight times Sanders’ delegate count. Ironically, exit polling in New Hampshire showed that Democratic presidential candidate Bernie Sanders won the support of about 9 in 10 voters who thought honesty was important. Should Clinton continue to have her way, such opinions — and the votes that they sway — may not matter much at all. Thanks to years of insider work, Clinton is set to repeat her quiet New Hampshire victory again and again in 2016.
Except for Nebraska and Maine, each state awards its votes by "winner take all," so that a candidate who wins a state 48 percent to 47 percent, for example, would get all of that state's electoral votes. The 47 percent who voted for the other candidate are effectively disenfranchised, as their votes will not impact the final outcome. As Schulte points out, the Electoral College ensures that popular votes from smaller (more rural, more white) states are overrepresented, since each state gets at least three electors regardless of population. Even more troubling about the Electoral College system is that relatively arbitrary factors can decisively impact the outcome of a presidential election.
Consider the 2000 election. In their 2003 article, "Outcomes of Presidential Elections and the House Size," Cal State Northridge mathematicians Michael G. Neubauer and Joel Zeitlin show how, in a race that is close in terms of the popular vote, the outcome can depend on the number of seats in the House of Representatives. Proponents of "lesser-evilism" who would like to lay at the feet of Ralph Nader responsibility for George W. Bush's "win" in 2000 have overlooked the true culprits: the members of Congress who, in 1911, picked 435 for the new number of House seats.
In general, the larger the size of the House of Representatives, the closer the Electoral College outcome gets to an accurate reflection of the popular vote, since additional House seats would be awarded to the states with the greatest ratio of population to number of House seats, which offsets somewhat the advantage that small states get from the awarding of votes based on Senate seats.
In the 2000 presidential election, despite the widespread disenfranchisement of African Americans and various other fraud, Bush lost the popular vote to Al Gore. However, because of the undemocratic nature of the Electoral College (and with a little help from both the Supreme Court and Gore's spineless complicity), Bush won a majority in the Electoral College and became president.
Analysis by Neubauer and Zeitlin shows that Bush would have won for any House with 490 seats or less. However, the 491st and 492nd seat would have been apportioned to New York and Pennsylvania, respectively, both of which Gore won, putting Gore in the lead in the EC. So if the size of the House had been set at 492 instead of 435 in 1911, or if it had been increased to 492 at some point over the last 89 odd years to reflect population gains, Gore would have been president.
Even more absurdly, based on current apportionment methods for House seats, "for House sizes between 492 and 596, the winner goes back and forth many times without much rhyme or reason. For those 105 different House sizes, the election ends in a tie 23 times, Gore wins 29 times, and Bush wins 53 times." Since Gore won the popular vote, for House sizes of 598 and above, Gore wins every time. All else remaining the same, the outcome of the 2000 election hinged upon an arbitrary decision made in 1911 by people who were all dead at the time of the 2000 election. It appears that the fabric of even the most formal mechanism of democracy in the United States was shoddy long before ACORN even came into being.
(3) "Faithless" Electors: After all of the undermining of one citizen-one vote that we described above, there is still the issue that the Elector doesn't actually have to vote for whom they pledged. For example, in 2000, D.C. elector Barbara Lett-Simmons abstained rather than vote for Al Gore as she had pledged. Her feeble protest resulted in silencing the voices of thousands of D.C. residents.
Few Americans would contend today that if we were designing a system to elect a president from scratch, the Electoral College would be the optimal solution. Using the popular vote would be the most obvious choice and a majority of Americans support this change. it would be easy to implement since the popular vote is already counted and some variant of preferential voting could be introduced so that third-parties can have a stronger voice.
Yet, inertia is a powerful force and so I don't anticipate America discarding this system anytime soon. Until the time comes when America drops the Electoral College or there is sufficient support for the National Popular Vote Interstate Compact, all states should mirror the practice of Maine and Nebraska of allocating their electoral votes based on proportional representation. This corrects the current all-or-nothing system used in forty-eight of the fifty states and its resulting overweighting or underweighting of votes based on whether or not you live in a swing state. More importantly, it will force candidates to take the votes of every American seriously, not just that small percentage living in swing states. Unfortunately, self-interest often trumps what is most fair or appropriate. Consequently, it is unlikely that many other states will follow Maine and Nebraska's lead since proportional allocation diminishes the power of the majority party in the state and opens the opportunity for third parties to have a stronger voice (an action that leadership in both the Democratic and Republican parties wouldn't want).
Source: http://www.scholarsstrategynetwork.org/how-money-corrupts-american-politics
On Saturday, real estate mogul Donald Trump racked up two more primary victories, winning in Louisiana and Kentucky, and thus securing a total of 373 delegates, with establishment candidates Ted Cruz, Marco Rubio and John Kasich trailing with 291, 122 and 33 delegates, respectively. With some pundits now openly asking whether the Republican establishment really has a chance to derail Trump, others, including neocon journalist Anne Applebaum, have resorted to scaremongering.
In a recent op-ed for The Washington Post, Applebaum, an American-Polish journalist known for her hawkish, stridently anti-Russian attitudes, laid out a worst-case scenario for the Euro-Atlanticist empire, warning that "right now, we are two or three bad elections away from the end of NATO, the end of the European Union and maybe the end of the liberal world order as we know it."
"In the United States, we are faced with the real possibility of Republican Party presidential nominee Donald Trump, which means we have to take seriously the possibility of a President Trump. Hillary Clinton's campaign might implode for any number of reasons, too obvious to rehash here; elections are funny things, and electorates are fickle."
"That means," Applebaum warns, "that next January we could have, in the White House, a man who is totally uninterested in what presidents Obama, Bush, Clinton, Reagan – as well as Johnson, Nixon and Truman – would all have called 'our shared values.'"
Blowing through Trump's domestic policy proposals in one sentence, what seems to interest the journalist more is his approach to foreign policy, particularly as it relates to Russia and Eastern Europe, of course.
"[Trump] brags that he 'would not care much' whether Ukraine was admitted to NATO; he has no interest in NATO and its security guarantees. Of Europe, he has written that 'their conflicts are not worth American lives. Pulling back from Europe would save this country millions of dollars annually'. In any case, he prefers the company of dictators to that of other democrats. 'You can make deals with those people,' he has said of Russia. 'I would have a great relationship with [Vladimir] Putin.'"
The journalist goes on to suggest that "not only is Trump uninterested in America's alliances, he would be incapable of sustaining them. In practice, both military and economic unions require not the skills of a shady property magnate who 'makes deals' but boring negotiations, unsatisfying compromises and, sometimes, the sacrifice of one's own national preferences for the greater good."
Moreover, "in an era when foreign policy debate has in most Western countries disappeared altogether, replaced by the reality TV of political entertainment, all of these things are much hard to explain and justify to a public that isn't remotely interested," Applebaum laments. If by 'all of these things' she means endless wars and Washington's fumbling attempt to preserve its shaky global hegemony, perhaps there's a little more thought behind American voters' logic toward anti-establishment candidates than she gives them credit for.
Europe Too Faces the 'Threat' of the Anti-Globalists
In other words, Applebaum seems to imply, 'what if, as a result of an attack by the Islamic caliphate which the US-led invasion of Iraq created and US Persian gulf allies have bankrolled, the French people were to vote for a politician opposed to foreign control of French affairs and to the policy of endless imperial adventures around the world?' As for her jab suggesting that Russia is bankrolling the National Front's campaign, Le Pen has been very open in her explanation, noting that she took a loan from a private Russian bank because no French bank would give her one. In fact, she has since said, she would cancel the loan with the Russian bank if a French bank were to make a counter-proposition, but she is yet to receive one.
But Applebaum isn't done yet. By the time French elections come around, she notes, "Britain may also be halfway out the door. In June, the British vote in a referendum to leave the EU. Right now, the vote is too close to call –and if the 'leave vote' prevails, then, as I've written, all bets are off. Copycat referendums may follow in other EU countries too. Viktor Orban, the Hungarian prime minister, sometimes speaks of leaving the West in favor of a strategic alliance with Istanbul or Moscow."
And for the journalist, "it's not hard at all to imagine a Britain unmoored from Europe drifting away from the transatlantic alliance as well." To make things even worse, in Applebaum's mind, "if the economic turmoil that could follow a British exit from the EU were sufficiently severe, perhaps the British public would vote out its conservative government in favor of the Labour Party, whose leadership is now radically anti-American. Everyone discounts Jeremy Corbyn, the far-left Labour leader, but they also discounted Trump. Corbyn is the only viable alternative if the public wants a change. Elections are funny things, and electorates are fickle."
Ultimately, the journalist anxiously notes, "without France, Europe's single market will cease to exist. Without Britain, it's hard to see how NATO lasts long either. Not everyone will be sorry. As Trump's appealing rhetoric makes clear, the cost of alliances ('millions of dollars annually') are easier to see than the longer-term gains."
Source: http://sputniknews.com/us/20160306/1035871466/trump-neocons-critique-analysis.html
"First of all, he says he didn't do it. Many people say it wasn't him. So who knows who did it?" Trump said. This week, Trump said the United States should reduce funding for NATO. A Russian Foreign Ministry spokesman said his comments showed the alliance was in crisis."For the last two years all we heard from Western newspapers and TV was very critical of Russia," Victoria Zhuravleva, a Moscow-based analyst on US-Russia relations, told Reuters news agency. "So when you hear something that is not so critical and even more friendly towards your country it's like: 'Thank God, there's one person we can talk to: Donald Trump.'" Trump and Putin were similar, she said. "They are both open-minded, pragmatic, and say what they think."
The mutual appreciation between Trump and Putin has invited comparisons to the Russian leader's friendship with another billionaire-turned-politician, Italy's Silvio Berlusconi, who outraged Ukrainians and irked EU leaders last year by visiting Russian-annexed Crimea with Putin. They toured a Crimean winery and drank a priceless 240-year-old bottle from its cellar. By contrast, Hillary Clinton, who is well known to the Kremlin because of her 2009-2013 stint as US Secretary of State, is clearly not to Moscow's taste.
Source: http://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/03/donald-trump-russia-love-160324201003289.html
According to a 2010 Pew Research Center poll, 74% of Americans rated the federal bureaucracy as only fair or poor in running its programs. In another Pew poll in January 2014, 75% said they trusted the federal government to do what is right “only some of the time” or “never.” And in a September 2014 Gallup poll, Americans estimated that Washington wastes 51 cents of every dollar it spends. The stakes of comprehensive reform are high. A new president serious about reform could take immediate action by executive order to collect the $700 billion already on the books in unpaid taxes, delinquent debts, and improper payments to individuals and government contractors. These numbers are estimates of the federal government’s own agencies.
That’s just for starters. Sen. Ron Johnson (R., Wis.), chairman of the Senate Homeland Security and Government Affairs Committee, says that there is $1.4 trillion that could be saved from the federal budget. How? By cutting the federal workforce 10% and the contract workforce 15%, modernizing the government’s antiquated information technology, creating public-private partnerships for infrastructure projects, selling off unneeded federal properties, streamlining the bloated Department of Homeland Security, and even reducing federal advertising by half.
Of course, in a debate the Republican nominee will embrace federal workforce cuts and retirement reforms; the Democratic nominee contractor cuts and the technology reforms. And both will have their own lists of delinquent taxes and debts that should be either forgiven or collected. If forced to be specific, the result should be plenty of tension on debate night. A FixTrust debate could shape the election’s outcome if it opens with two fundamental questions that shape the issue of reform: Should the next president cut federal programs to reduce the power of government, or maintain existing programs to deal with important problems? Second, should he or she winnow the federal agenda to a smaller set of priorities, or accept the current priorities and focus on fixing the bureaucracy?
Americans likely will pay close attention. Answers to questions asked on my behalf in a survey last July by the Annenberg Public Policy Center’s Institutions of Democracy showed that half of Americans favored cutting back federal programs to reduce the power of government. The other half said programs should be maintained to deal with important problems. Slightly more than half said government had the wrong priorities, while almost as many said it had the right priorities, but a broken bureaucracy.
Based on these findings, I have identified and named four different groups of Americans who are currently looking for a candidate they can support: (1) the conservative “dismantlers” who want the next president to cut back programs and reset priorities, (2) the slightly more moderate “streamliners” who want the next president to cut back programs and repair the bureaucracy, (3) the almost equally moderate “priority setters” who want to maintain programs and reset priorities, and (4) the more liberal “reinventors” who want to maintain programs and mostly tinker with the bureaucracy.
None of the groups has anything close to a majority today, which increases the make-or-break nature of the FixTrust debate. The only way to win the face off, and maybe the presidency, is to build a coalition from the 32% of Americans who agree with the dismantlers, the 28% who support the reinventors, the 25% who identify as priority setters, and the 15% who stand with the streamliners. With the dismantlers and reinventors locked in at the conservative and liberal ends of the reform continuum, and the streamliners in recent decline, the outcome of the debate, and perhaps the election, will likely depend on the priority setters, especially the ones who are spoiling for a fight over the nation’s agenda.
To be sure, all of the declared presidential candidates at this early stage of the game have weighed in on government reform from time to time over the years. But they only need to revisit the long list of recent government breakdowns—and their effect on past presidential administrations—to see their futures absent a coherent plan for immediate government reform. After all, the next president could face a government breakdown only months, if not weeks after inauguration, any one of which could damage his or her presidency. It could be a history defining breakdown such as 9/11, a tragic breach of trust such as the VA waiting list scandal, an unresolved scandal such as the IRS targeting, or even the failure of a highly advertised website such as healthcare.gov. But whatever the breakdown, it is coming.
Mr. Light is a professor at New York University’s Wagner School of Public Service, and a former adviser to the Volcker Alliance, a nonprofit working for effective government.
Source: http://dailycaller.com/2016/01/18/poll-just-7-percent-of-russians-care-about-democracy/
I'd like to clarify something: When I talk about Jews, I am not talking about the average Shlomo on the street. When I talk about Jews I am talking about Jews as a collective national body. In other words: I am not talking about the individual cells of an organ, I'm instead talking about the organ itself. There are many truly great Jews that I have great respect for. I have great admiration for people like NYU's Stephen Cohen, Mordechai Vanunu, Noam Chomsky, Israel Shahak, Norman Finkelstein, Seymour Hersh, Ralph Schoenman and many others like them. Moreover, I believe Jews are a very intelligent and talented people, quite similar to us Armenians. But unlike us Armenians, Jews are instinctually drawn to ideological conviction and politics. Unlike Armenians, Jews are instinctually proactive when it comes to sociopolitical activism whether it's in their homeland or in their host nations. Unlike Armenians, Jews are highly organized and perpetually concerned about self-preservation. The aforementioned traits have been bred into their blood through the centuries, and it's something I admire them for. There is therefore a lot that we hopelessly individualistic, ever gullible and utterly arrogant Armenians can learn from them. So, I don't hate Jews per se. It's political Jewry that I fear and despise because they are our enemy and they are the enemy of our Russian and Iranian friends as well. I particularly dislike Ashkenazi Zionists because they tend to be rabid racists and very anti-Christian.
ReplyDeleteIt is irreconcilable with common human decency the hatred of an individual. I would not even use the word hatred. The international jewry has got every nation by its jugular. Every layer of the human endeavor and discipline is hermetically sealed by the elect and chosen race.Their bacterial toxins permeate the innards of every single nation. They are the only community group-race that understand power, understands hatred, understands rivalry and enmity,the controls of power, and the exercise of power to its very limits for their exclusive hegemony. It is not a matter of hatred, but the total exclusion of these breed of race in determining the fate of nations. They are an international breed, unique , forming the crest of elites, lethally dangerous to the rest of nations. Sometimes one wonders if they are not ET's
DeleteI don't know about ET, but there sure is a supernatural feel about Jews. They are naturally shrewd, intelligent, talented and ruthless. It's as if they are instinctually driven towards political activism, wealth and power. They may very well have been been bred to be this way by their racist/ethnocentric religion and their volatile experiences in foreign lands throughout the centuries.
DeleteUnlike the rest of us stupid goyim, who have been convinced by Jews that God and race does not exist, Jews are fully in tune with their spiritual and ethnic calling, and they collectively worry about their preservation and they plot accordingly. They also have "old money" (the Western world's ruling dynasties within which Jews are well represented) behind them.
The Western world is the seat of their wealth and power. And because the Western world is the standard to which all other lesser peoples aspire to, Western Jews naturally have the upper hand advantage over the rest of humanity. Jews control the Western world's wealth, politics and culture, they control the Western world's levers of social engineering (television, cinema and music). Jews have maneuvered themselves into the very core of Western civilization. They today represent Western civilization. This is why I call the Western world, "the Anglo-American-Jewish global order". This is also why I say the only way to degrade Jewish power is to degrade Anglo-American power.
Nevertheless, what we are seeing is their manifest destiny. It was bound to happen. This is their period, their cycle. We are living in their world. And this is not new. We have been through several cycles like this in the past: Egypt, Babylon, Persia, Rome, Russia, Germany. And similar to what happened in the past, there will someday be major blowback against them, not necessarily in the US, where the goyim is simply too dumb, but in other parts of the world like Russia and China.
What's more, Nazi Germany and the persecutions Jews suffered during the Second World War was perhaps the best thing that could happen to them. In my opinion, had the Nazis not gone after them they way they did, I really don't think Jews would have had the psychological hold they currently have over Western civilization.
"The thing that makes Judaism dangerous to everybody, to every race, to every nation, to every idea, is that we smash things that aren't true. We don't believe in the boundaries of nation-states. We don't believe in the ideas of these individual gods that, you know, protect individual groups of people. These are all artificial constructions. Judaism really teaches us how to see that. In a sense our detractors have us right in that we are a corrosive force that we are breaking down the false gods of all nations and all peoples because they are not real. And that's very upsetting to people"
DeleteDouglas Roushkoff, Author of Nothing Sacred: The Truth About Judaism
"AIPAC is widely regarded as the most powerful foreign-policy lobby in Washington. Its 60,000 members shower millions of dollars on hundreds of members of Congress on both sides of the aisle. Newspapers like the New York Times (Jewish owned) fear the Jewish lobby organizations as well. "It's very intimidating," said a correspondent at another large daily. "The pressure from these groups is relentless"
Journalist Michael Massing, Nation Magazine
"I've never seen a President -- I don't care who he is -- stand up to them. It just boggles the mind. They always get what they want. The Israelis know what is going on all the time. If the American people understood what a grip those people have got on our government, they would rise up in arms. Our citizens certainly don't have any idea what goes on"
Admiral Thomas Moorer, Chairman of the US Joint Chiefs of Staff under Ronald Reagan
"Is there any criminal act that Israel can do without being protected from criticism from the United States? If there is I haven't seen it. And I haven't seen it from the Bush Administration or from the Clinton Administration or from any administration before them. But when you consider the influence of Israel's lobby and its political action committees and the more than $41 million they've given to Congress and the White House, is it any wonder Israel is shielded from any shame? For more than 54 years the Israelis have committed acts that no other nation would dare get away with. But even here in America, where it is not yet illegal to publicly ask the wrong questions, any public figure that does so is subjected to smears, intimidation, and the attempted destruction of his career and reputation by Jewish organizations and by the very cooperative news media"
U.S. Brigadier General James J. David (Ret.)
"Their greatest danger to this country lies in the Jewish ownership and influence in our motion pictures, our press, our radio, and our government"
Charles Lindbergh
Speaking of China: The following is an article I came across some time ago. It reveals just how intellectually dynamic and culturally flexible Jews tend to be as individuals. They truly exhibit behavioral patterns quite common to biological parasites -
DeleteGo East, Young Man: http://www.nytimes.com/2012/01/09/opinion/china-as-a-destination-for-job-seekers.html
That said, Jews will never be a serious power inside a place like China merely because Chinese culture/civilization/genetics will not provide Jews with a fertile ground within which to sow their seeds... Unless China goes through some major Christian or Islamic transformation... Which is not going to happen. This is one of the good aspects of China's ascend as a world power.
Speaking of parasitism and the human ecosystem:
DeleteWithin the human ecosystem, what the cell is to an organ the individual is to the nation. You can have good cells and you can have bad cells in an organ (just like you can have good people and bad people in a nation). However, it's the "collective' of cells (its biochemical structure) that gives the organ its look, quality and characteristics. Similarly, it's a collection of a particular people - it's social structures, elite, politicians, cultural values, mindsets, etc - that gives a particular nation its look, quality and characteristics.
Within the human ecosystem, different nations play the role of different animal species within the animal ecosystem.
In my opinion, in the human ecosystem, Europeans (Caucasians) and northern and eastern Asians are major predators (like Lions, Tigers, Eagles in the animal kingdom). Others in the human ecosystem (in fact most) are grazers, providing the predators with sustainable sustenance. Yet others are foragers and scavengers. You can look at different civilizations/races/nations around the world and ascribe them any one of the aforementioned categories.
Within the same human ecosystem, Jews play the role of highly specialized parasites. They seek out the most powerful in the ecosystem and they live off of them. This incidentally helps in curbing the overgrowth of major predators in the ecosystem in question. What's more, once settled in the host, the parasites takes on a little of the host's essence and the host takes on a little of the parasite's essence (as in a true symbiotic relationship).
The parasites lives well at the expense of others. However, the parasite cannot survive on its own. Therefore, once they have depleted their host (or if the host having become sick of the parasite decides to rid itself of it), the parasite will abandon it and seek another host. As we know, it's very difficult to rid an organism of parasites. Depending on how deeply infected and how long the host has been infected, the measure to free an organ or an animal or a nation of parasites may require drastic measures. At times, the host may even die in the process.
Once the thoroughly infected Anglo-American system crumbles, it will be very difficult for Jews to find another host as fatty, as pliable, as fertile. With the decline of the West and the rise of the East, I think Jews will go into another decline/hibernation (as they tend to do from time to time) until the next convenient host appears in the human ecosystem.
PS: This is the way I see the world. I am not a racist. I am not a Darwinist. I also reserve harsh criticism for Armenians. I see the modern Armenians as having been reduced to the role of scavengers in the human ecosystem during the past one thousand years. Therefore, I do not hate Jews. In fact, I respect many of their scholars. And I admire their efficiency. I am merely talking about the human ecosystem as I see it and the parasitical role of Jews within it. I do not call them parasites in a racist or condescending way. Parasites play an important role in nature, although we need to always protect ourselves from infection. After all, in the big picture, parasites are nature's way of controlling the balance in nature. For example: Imagine Europe without its Jewish infection for the past two thousand years. I think Germanic and/or Slavic tribes would have driven many lesser nations into extinction. I personally would not have a problem with that due to my personal biases and tastes, however, mother nature, or the divine powers that be, may have a problem with that... which is why parasites exist to control or cull predator populations.
Թուրքիան Ռուսաստանի դարավոր թշնամին է. «Կիսալուսնի մայրամուտը»
ReplyDeletehttp://lratvakan.am/?p=57450&l=am/turqian+rusastani+daravor+tshnamin+e+kisalusni+mayramuty
I was pleasantly surprised with this interview because it was not anti-Russian like many of the interviews that this opposition radio station produces. That said, I have a couple of observations: The historian mildly criticizes Russia for not properly taking advantage of its past victories against Turks. In my opinion, historians who think this way have a very amateurish/narrow understanding of the time periods they are talking about. Not one word is mentioned about the fact that besides fighting Turks, the Russian Empire at the time was also in serious conflict against Western powers like Britain, France, Germany, Sweden, Vatican, etc. Just like today. It was these Western powers that were constantly putting great pressure on Russia and forcing the Czar to at times to go to concessions on the negotiations table with Turks. Just like today. Also, it gets a little annoying when historians, who should know better, keep saying nonsense like "Russians keep forgetting who Turks are". Russians are NOT forgetting who Turks are, Russians are executing realpolitik. Every time period is different, every time period has its set of unique geopolitical factors. Therefore, every time period has to be looked at and treated separately. That is how serious powers approach politics. We Armenians on the other hand tend to treat politics as if its a street fight or a domestic dispute. I am sorry but politics may not be a thing Armenians will ever excel in. That said, the historian was intelligent and honest and did his best not to pander to anti-Russian interests at the radio station.
DeleteAt the end of the day, Trump at best can slow down the inevitable decline of America. Spiritual health and demographics are key to national power. America is terminally ill in both those key areas. Still, I hope Trump wins, if for no other reason than to see his despicable enemies experience disappointment. In fact I just reregistered to vote, in order to switch party affiliations from "no preference" to Republican. California's primary is in July, and the Republican party here does not allow crossover voters. And I may like Trump, clicking "Republican" on the voter registration website was quite a disgusting experience - the party of neo-conservative, war-mongering, evangelicuck faggots.
ReplyDeletePs so far the only comments I have heard from the Armenian political groups are complaints that Trump licensed his name, for a lot of money, to be used on some building in Baku. This just shows how little foresight Armenian-American groups have, how politically irrational and emotional they are, and these groups are totally failing in teaching young Armenian-Americans about geopolitics, cold/rational political calculation, and political maturity and discipline. Armenian-American groups have Jewish-level whining and pettiness, but completely lack any strategy or solutions. This should not surprise anyone, because for the past two decades the Armenian lobby proved 100% inefficient; basically being reduced to a one-issue (please say the word "genocide") bloc that candidates learned they could lie to - and betray - without consequence (Obama, Biden, Pelosi). In fact, by pushing for Congressional Genocide resolutions and for the president to say genocide and then totally failing, the Armenian lobby strengthened the Turks. But I guess a Genocide crusade brings in more donations that focusing on actually improving Armenia and Artsakh . . . Also, even though both Republicans and Democrats suck, it is quite obvious that most Armenian-American organizations are headed by very liberal Democrats.
Lastly, Corey Lewandowski who was described in this blog entry was recently in a controversy.
Did The Washington Post Lie About The Michelle Fields Incident?
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4B6K7iiV_zk
I hope that Trump wins. He will have an unimaginable challenge to confront and myriads of hurdles along the way. He will be going inside a Jewish burrow of hirsute rodents. To make Amerika a tenth of what Trump aspires ( great again) he'll have to kick start a mighty revolution a la Gramsci- but in reverse. Trump will have to overhaul the infrastructure of American administration/government and its manifold departments ( all ridden with Jews) in its entirety. At every turn he'll encounter a "mighty walls" of jericho of Jewish construction . He is too savvy and foxy to allow himself to be assassinated a la JFK. He will not be driving in an open car in an unguarded cavalcade through the streets of Dallas. The unfortunate JFK believed to be loved by his voters, like Hitler. Hitler , the incarnate devil, was able to drive in open motor cars, standing and waving to the adoring multitude. Satan Hitler was impervious to bombs, bullets, and strays Gavrilo Principic- or Rubin-Oswalds on the loose. Doubtful if Trump will even imagine doing that. Amerika is a fissiparous construct, lacks homogeneity. As it is Trump is surrounded by a massive wall( he is fond of walls) of security apparatus, his own. The jewish power will not cease trying to scupper him. We will have to watch with keen interest the body language of the Kazhar Netaniuy when he meets Trump. In an instant it will be revealed who is the "boss". Trump will need two terms if he is to introduce a quarter of the changes he is promising. Then he'll have to change the constitution and make himself a dictator for life. To arrest the obvious and ineluctable extinction of whites in Amerika, a paradigm shift in thinking is required, the political discourse morphed . followed with fast track programs to stop immigration , reverse it and stamp out non white immigration, legal or otherwise. Jewish power might be facing an imponderable factor ; on the other hand it could turn out to be another gaseous act in the Circus of Jeworama . Time will tell.
DeleteI guess this is just more proof that Russia wants "Armenia without Armenians" and that Moscow is exploiting its Armenian oblast exclusively for Russian benefit:
ReplyDeleteExpert: Armenia will soon become the world's most densely packed place when it comes to quantity of S- 300 anti-aircraft missile systems
http://www.arminfo.am/index.cfm?objectid=254E6600-E76B-11E5-AB070EB7C0D21663
Armenia will soon become the world's most densely packed place when it comes to the quantity of the air defense systems, particularly S-300 missile systems, Sergey Minasyan, the deputy head of the Caucasus Institute, told ArmInfo.
The quantity of Armenia's Russian-made air defense systems will be increased under the Agreement on the establishment of the United Regional Air Defense System in the Caucasus region of the CSTO that was signed by the Armenian and Russian defense minister in late 2015.
In addition, Minasyan said, yet in 2015, there were reports saying that five more divisions of S-300 anti- tank systems will be transferred to Armenia's Armed Forces without compensation. The given missile systems will be repaired and modernized in Armenia.
The expert said 3-4 divisions of S-300PT missile systems and at least 2-3 divisions of mobile S-300PS anti- aircraft systems that were modernized in Armenia are on the balance of Armenia's Air Defense Force.
"Some military experts say that Armenia's Air Defense has also other missile systems, including modernized Pechora-2M, old S-125 systems. After the supply of the above S-300 anti-aircraft systems, Armenia's Air Defense will become the most powerful in the region," Minasyan said.
And Russia provides natural gas to Armenia at a loss, but don't expect to hear this from Armenia's Western financed political opposition -
DeleteIf Gazprom keeps gas price discounts for Armenia, it will be losing $48 million a year: http://arka.am/en/news/business/newspaper_if_gazprom_keeps_gas_price_discounts_for_armenia_it_will_be_losing_48_million_a_year/
When the mainstream media (the French, no less) start calling someone who questions the official narrative regarding a very large, well-coordinated, and organized terrorist attack an "idiot," and when they condemn that person for being "cruel" and "causing hurt feelings" by asking the wrong questions, then I am inclined to give the person some credibility:
ReplyDelete#ParisTerrorAttacks - A cruel new theory
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CAVZC_VrXdQ
Also, I noticed that France 24's video has less than a thousand views, even after it was featured in a headline on the Daily Stormer website yesterday. This indicates that they have almost no audience; practically no one gives a shit about hearing their propaganda.
Arevordi,
ReplyDeleteWhy did you list ecumenism among the institutionalized projects elites promote?
Anonymous Armenian,
Delete"Ecumenism" today is basically the multiculturalism/interracialism/globalism of the religious world. It goes way beyond religious leaders simply getting together and making nice. Just like the United Nations, the whole thing is initiated, funded and thus orchestrated by WASPs and Jews (and mostly likely secret societies) via organizations like the World Council of Churches and National Council of Churches. These organizations are the UN of the religious world and just like UN they are heavily influenced by Western special interests. So, it's essentially just another Western operation. I don't know if you know but Katolikos Aram is very involved in Western ecumenism. Katolikos Aram is also a high ranking Freemason. I have nothing against cooperation/dialogue between different religious groups, but such a thing has to be free of Anglo-American-Jewish influence or control.
As I said, Katolikos Aram I is a prominent figure in Western ecumenism. The decades long persistent rumors that he is also a high ranking Freemason went to a new level a few years ago -
Did Catholicos Aram I Defrock Father Bartev for Speaking Out? http://hetq.am/eng/news/19894/controversial-sermon-did-catholicos-aram-i-defrock-father-bartev-for-speaking-out.html
When you do a google search with the words "Freemasons" and "World Council of Churches" you get many results like this -
How the New World Order is Using the Christian Churches and their Pastors – to Destroy Christianity: http://www.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/spiritual/home_study/church_destroy.htm
Arevordi,
DeleteIt's funny that you mention this. A few years ago during my graduate studies I was told that the ecumenical movement was a den if communist sympathizers, and even had kgb agents. I thought there was more to this than meets the eye. I think it's time to get rid of the Cilicia branch of our church. What's it's purpose now?
In my opinion, the Cilician church would be better off as a patriarchate.
Deletewww.goodnewsaboutgod.com/studies/spiritual/home_study/church_destroy.htm has a paragraph about the role of Jacob Schiff.
DeleteWhat else do we know about Jacob Schiff (there are no news, of course):
"Why did religious Jews like financier Jacob Schiff want to bring down the Czar's government, on account of its pogroms against revolutionary Jews, if Schiff was repudiating those revolutionary Jews?
In his letters (Cyrus Alder, Jacob H Schiff: His Life and Letters, 1928), Schiff reveals an obsession with bringing down the Russian government. He admits to loaning money to Japan for the 1904-5 war, for a political purpose: 'I further said, that as a friend of Japan, who had rendered important services in financing her war loans, in order to enable her to defend herself and become victorious over Russia, " the enemy of mankind," ...' (vol I, p. 255). He admits, "The claim that among the ranks of those who in Russia are seeking to undermine governmental authority there are a considerable number of Jews may be true" (vol II, p. 131), then goes on to blame and attack the Czar, rather than repudiate those revolutionary Jews."
(From a worthwhile Aussie site: Neither Aryan, nor Jew@ http://mailstar.net/index.html
Malcolm X said characterized the naivete of Armenians in the political system best in his speech entitled "The Ballot or the Bullet." In essence, our major political parties are "chumps," when we keep pushing Democrats who keep breaking their promises to us. Although this gripe is over two decades old, it is still a shame that ANCA decided to campaign for Clinton rather than Bob Dole, Bob Dole who was so pro-Armenian - Bill Clinton is a war-criminal, a genocidal culprit, a man who bombed defenseless Serbian women and children at the behest of Turkey. The ANCA went for Clinton, a man who supported Turkey in its continued genocide of Orthodox Christians, because Clinton was going to win.
ReplyDeleteNot rewarding those loyal to you because they may not be on the "winning" side is a sign of weak integrity. It is why ANCA continues to support Kardashian, for clicks. One must ask, what have the effects of Kardashian's commenting on the genocide been? The only tangible benefits I see about Kardashian discussing the genocide are: that some yokels know about the genocide; there is now a tacit approval of her lifestyle, especially among the younger generation; and permission for ANCA politicos to enjoy Kardashian's performance with Ray-J without guilt. There have been no reparations.
"The Democrats have been in Washington DC only because of the Negro vote. They’ve been down there four years, and there all other legislations they wanted to bring up they brought it up and gotten it out of the way, and now they bring up you. And now, they bring up you. You put them first, and they put you last 'cause you’re a chump, a political chump. In Washington DC, in the House of Representatives there are 257 who are Democrats; only 177 are Republican. In the Senate there are 67 Democrats; only 33 are Republicans. The Party that you backed controls two-thirds of the House of Representatives and the Senate, and still they can’t keep their promise to you, 'cause you’re a chump. Anytime you throw your weight behind the political party that controls two-thirds of the government, and that Party can’t keep the promise that it made to you during election time, and you’re dumb enough to walk around continuing to identify yourself with that Party, you’re not only a chump, but you’re a traitor to your race." https://www.cis.aueb.gr/Besides%20Security/TALKS/TALKS-10-X%20(The%20Ballot%20or%20the%20Bullet).pdf
Boghos Jermag
Malcolm X was not making a case for Republicans, he was making a case for an armed revolution. From an Armenian perspective, Republicans and Democrats are the same shit. The reason why Bob Dole never denied the Armenian Genocide was because he never made it to the White House. When President Reagan uttered the words Armenian genocide for the first and last time back in 1981, the term did not have the political weight it has now. My thoughts on the Kardashians' visit to Armenia last year appears in the following blog post -
DeleteThoughts on the centennial of the Armenian Genocide (April, 2015): http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/2015/04/thoughts-on-centennial-of-armenian.html
How democracy is sold to dupes.
ReplyDeleteWatch Ted Cruz coach his family through a campaign ad shoot
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hO_MkcZh-VY
Video also serves as an appetite suppressant.
Thanks for posting this find. It's been an exceptionally strange circus this time around. Putting aside the the art of PR and the freaky Cruz family for a moment, the fact that this was aired by CNN goes to show you that the Jewish establishment (primarily its neoliberal faction) also seems to dislike Cruz. It's just that Trump is attracting most of their attention. The only person on the Republican side they are able to stomach is Rubio.
DeleteArevordi,
ReplyDeleteYou did an excellent job with your article this month. I was born in the states. I love this country but it's so changed in so many bad ways I don't recognize it any longer. As an American I am ashamed to admit that Jews have total and absolute control over America now. They hate Donald Trump because they fear they can't totally dominate him. You might want to put the article below into your current work.
How Donald Trump sparked an unprecedented crisis among Jewish Republicans: http://theweek.com/articles/612214/how-donald-trump-sparked-unprecedented-crisis-among-jewish-republicans
Raffi
Russia announced a military withdraw from Syria. Any comments?
ReplyDeleteBREAKING: Putin orders start of Russian military withdrawal from Syria: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rCwhYshgw8
nteresting development. I wasn't expecting this to happen this soon. Something might be going on that we are not aware of. The official explanation, that Russia accomplished its objective - i.e. rescued Assad's government from defeat and laid the groundwork for the current cease-fire which seems to be holding for the most part - may not be the whole story.
DeleteForemost, let's understand that Russia will be withdrawing only some of its forces; presumably some ground units and some aircraft. The withdrawal thus far seems largely symbolic and political in nature. I say symbolic because Russia will be maintaining combat capabilities in Syria in case Assad's government is threatened again. Therefore, the Russian naval facility at Tartus and the new Russian airbase at Latakia will remain fully operational, as well as some Russian special units in the country.
That said, I wonder if Moscow is taking a step back because of a suspected military trap by its regional antagonists. We have theorized here that Western powers may be seeking to get Russians and Turks (and Iranians and Saudis) to fight inside Syria. So, with that in mind, is Moscow taking a step back as a tactical precaution? Is Moscow simply repositioning its military assets in the region as a precautionary measure? If the two were to fight, I would not want to see Russian forces exposed they way they are inside Syria today. In a full scale war with Turkey, Russians forces would be quite exposed and vulnerable because of their relative small size and close proximity to the Turkish border. There is also the possibility, albeit very remote in my opinion, that Moscow is trying to lure Ankara into the Syrian battlefield by making it look as if Russia is withdrawing.
We have also theorized that a deal between Russia and the US may be in the making. By taking a step back, is Moscow signaling to the West that it is now ready to seriously negotiate a deal? My gut feeling says some form of a deal has been reached (or is in the process of being reached) between Moscow and Washington over Syria, perhaps over Ukraine as well. Time will tell.
But, overall, I think this was a very smart move by Moscow; essentially because Russia is taking a step back at a time when it has registered great successes both militarily and politically, and at a time when Alawite and Shiite forces in Syria have regained their composure. The one thing Russian officials (both military and civilian) did not want to do was get into a costly quagmire in Syria. From day one, Moscow only wanted to save Assad's government from defeat and establish itself militarily and politically in the country. Moscow has accomplished both in brilliant manner. To its credit, as a true grossmeister, Moscow is fully cognizant of its capabilities and its flaws and is therefore play the global chessboard very wisely, very cautiously and very unpredictably.
Putin announced that he will withdraw the core of Russian forces from Syria but will keep the naval and air base functioning as before.
DeleteTherefore, the extents of Russian military activity cannot be duly examined as long as the aforementioned bases continue to operate and none can claim that Russia did not fulfil its withdrawal even if tactical air strikes where to continue.
The timing of this announcement along with the negotiations kickoff in Geneva positions Russia as a side that supports peace and political settlement among Syrians, it also pulls away Russia as a headline for political assault from the Syrian opposition and their foreign supporters, signalling to those the following: find something else to justify your defeats and failures.
The political West likewise is forced to end its duplicity vis-a-vis the Russian role in Syria, on one it desires Russia's stabilizing effect, on the other hand it attacks it publicly. Russia therefore makes a clear statement to those, if you don't accelerate the political settlement under the pre set conditions agreed upon (UNSC resolution on Syria), then isis and nusra will be the first among those who will benefit from such delays. Therefore none can throw sticks into the wheel of political settlement, then blame Russia for the repercussions of the escalation of violence as if it was Russia's exclusive responsibility.
The balance of forces is stable in favour of the Syrian government, the co-ordination between Putin and Assad leads the political and military equations and initiatives.
The Syrian presidency "confirms that the whole subject happened in complete coordination between the Russian and Syrian sides, and is a step that was carefully and accurately studied for some time"
http://news.yahoo.com/syrian-presidency-denies-reports-differences-russia-210328255.html
Over time Moscow's strategy will become more clear. Another theory is that the rebels have been supplied with advanced surface-to-air missiles, as only 2-3 days ago a Syrian plane was shot, and both sides have remained quite silenced about this incident. Perhaps Moscow doesn't want to risk too much and feels confident that they can support the Syrian government by other means now.
Deletehttp://www.aljazeera.com/news/2016/03/syrian-jet-shot-rebels-160313035917792.html
The infowar is half the battle. The "cessation of hostilities" and now this look good, and put their enemies on the wrong foot. And Lattakia and coastal regions seem secured, which some argue is where there were a lot of Russian soldiers for artillery and support. They are finished, or so some argue.
DeleteSo the "ceasefire" has caused some infighting and is good PR. The initiative rests with Russia in these moves. If Turkey and KSA try anything in Lebanon or Syria, they will be even further out on a limb. And don't forget that Russia has a narrative, just as others do. The Russian narrative for what the problem is in Syria and the Middle East, and one for the internal groups and how to solve things. This allows the US or at least the Obama administration to praise this and push for some kind of settlement. All the while, the destruction of the fighters inside Syria will continue - because they are terrorists.
A broader sphere of influence deal is perhaps what Russia has wanted. What that may look like is unknowable. Some argue that KSA is doomed, and that the West knows it. If KSA went down, it would change the funding of things in that region. Erdoghan and his clique may have turned on Assad half for Gulf money, and not Ottoman dreams.
Eurasian
SyrianArab
DeleteI agree with your assessment of the situation. Russia will remain militarily engaged in Syria. It's withdrawal seems to be largely symbolic. I believe Moscow's unexpected move was coordinated with Western powers and the Syrian government. It may be connected in some way to a final peace settlement (perhaps tied to Ukraine as well). We will have to wait and see. What's important however is that Russia's military intervention in Syria achieved a historic victory at a 'very' low cost. What's also important is that Assad's Iran-backed government has been saved and Damascus currently has the initiative and the upper hand, militarily and politically. I therefore think it's time that Alawites and rebellious Sunnis began their long healing process.
Kim Philby,
While anti-aircraft missiles was a worry for the Russian military all along, I don't think it had anything to do with the recent move. The Western/Turkish/Saudi backed terrorists in Syria do not have medium to high altitude anti-aircraft missiles. What they have is anti-aircraft artillery and MANPADS. With these they have been able to bring down Syrian aircraft from time to time. The Mig-21 that was recently shot down fell victim to one of these. The threat by small, man portable anti-aircraft missiles in particular is the reason why Russian air force has been conducting its bombing campaign from high altitudes. The extremist groups do not have the kind of air-defense systems that can threaten the kind of bombing campaign Russia is conducting over Syria. If such unites were deployed from Turkish Moscow would react very aggressively not only towards the system on the ground by bombing them but also directly against Turkey. Moscow has thus far refrained from providing Kurds with capable anti-aircraft missiles because Turks have refrained from providing their terror groups inside Syria with similar weapons. At the end of the day, even between antagonistic powers, there remains some degree of cooperation. In politics and in war some things are always held back for use as a last resort.
Eurasian,
If you listen carefully to the reaction coming out of the Western news media (at least the more serious ones in the bunch), you will immediately notice that they are indirectly praising Russia's move and giving Moscow a considerable amount of credit for a successful campaign. They could have activated their propaganda mode and painted the Russian move in Syria as a setback, a retreat and/or a defeat, but they have not. The fact that they are not tells me that this latest development in Syria was coordinated between the two main sides.
Western press about the Russian move -
Did Putin once again outfox Obama?: http://www.politico.com/story/2016/03/vladimir-putin-syria-outfox-obama-220745
The Strategy Behind Russia’s Moves in Syria: http://nationalinterest.org/feature/the-strategy-behind-russias-moves-syria-15497
So Much for Putin’s Syria ‘Quagmire’: The Kremlin has achieved its goal of propping up Assad: http://www.wsj.com/articles/so-much-for-putins-syria-quagmire-1457998429
With Campaign in Syria, Russia Tested Hardware, Prowess: http://www.wsj.com/articles/with-campaign-in-syria-russia-tested-hardware-prowess-1458051011
Stratfor Explains President Putin’s Largely Achieved Objectives in Syria: http://sputniknews.com/middleeast/20160315/1036331818/russia-syria-objectives.html
Russia jets return from Syria in boost for peace talks: http://news.yahoo.com/first-russian-planes-fly-syria-ministry-084455665.html
Iranian FM: 'Russia's withdrawal from Syria indicates that the ceasefire is holding': http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/Iran-News/Iranian-FM-Russias-withdrawal-from-Syria-indicates-that-the-ceasefire-is-holding-447982
Syria conflict: Russia 'to continue air strikes' after withdrawal: http://www.bbc.com/news/world-middle-east-35812371
Russian air strikes near Palmyra as Syrian troops push advance: http://news.yahoo.com/russian-air-strikes-near-palmyra-syrian-troops-push-150951153.html
Russia's decision to withdraw its forces does not include the S400 air defence systems
Deletehttp://www.reuters.com/article/mideast-crisis-syria-russia-s-idUSL5N16N2G1
The risk of military intervention by some adventurers however remains possible.
If the S400 is meant to remain under Russian control in Syria, then for those adventurers nothing will change in their calculations regardless if Russia decided to confront them or not, the matter remains the same before the withdrawal as it is after.
If the message is that Russia is no longer a direct party in the current conflict, that implies that the modern systems are under Syrian control, freeing its hands to use these systems without the hard and intricate considerations that a superpower like Russia has to make, since Syria is a nation that is in life or death struggle defending its sovereignty and existence.
Syria's foes will soon recognize that nothing changed on the battleground, and if anything changed, then it changed for Syria's advantage.
If Russia were to simply supply the S400s to Syria, the virtual “world” would have turned all tables to condemn such a move that radically shifts the geopolitical calculus in the region, but Russians did exactly the same, while the world can do nothing but applaud Russia's “withdrawal” decision.
@It may be connected in some way to a final peace settlement (perhaps tied to Ukraine as well).
DeleteIt is highly probable that the Khazars are again concocting something nasty counting on 'bogging down" Russia in Syria. The musings of McCain seem to suggest it:
"Beyond the immediate battlefield, though, Russia's withdrawal has raised fears on other fronts.
U.S. Sen. John McCain said now that Putin has "bombed and killed enough of the opponents of the murderous Assad regime to ensure its survival," Russia may turn its attention elsewhere.
"I fear that a bloody spring is coming again to Ukraine," McCain warned.
@http://www.nbcnews.com/news/world/analysis-why-putin-picked-moment-pull-out-syria-n538671
Other signals come from the Kagans:
“Because they're withdrawing or have said they're withdrawing troops in Syria, [it] should not mean that we let them off the hook in terms of sanctions vis-a-vis activities in Ukraine,” Nuland said during a Senate Foreign Relations Committee hearing....
critics expressed concern that the administration has not been supporting a sufficient level of force deployment in eastern Ukraine to deter Russia aggression."
@http://www.voanews.com/content/us-official-russia-withdrawal-from-syria-should-not-affect-ukraine
So, the Russians might remind the Kagans that they are there.
My view on this withdraw is based on other factors and I don't think a deal has been reached. What I believe is the case is that something else is going to blow up, and by having an "official withdraw" Russia will not be seen as loosing the Syrian front. This mean that places like Ukraine are going to heat up, and having the assets back in position will make sure there is no holes in the Russian defense on other vital areas.
DeleteOf course the Western press is welcoming this move, as the plans for a toork and Saudi attack makes it that much easier, as they ramp up Ukraine at the same time. By having this withdraw at least the Ukrainian front will not cave in. 5000 folks is not chump change. There are more Russians in Syria then Armenia.
To think that the West with all this foolishness has somehow come to it's senses is foolish for us to consider. The Europeans are cutting all sorts of deals with the Turks, if the Turks were feeling emboldened before what do you think they are thinking of themselves now?
Vahram
I bet that to many gullible Americans, the withdrawal of Russian serviceman and warplanes from Syria probably seems like a defeat or an admission of inability to sustain the operation. This is because the American viewpoint is warped by decades of being conditioned to accepting as a supposed necessity the invading of countries, setting up bases, and pretty much never leaving. For example, Germany, Japan, and Italy remain occupied since 1945. NATO has never allowed any of its European satrapies to leave once they join; the sole, partial exception was France initiated by De Gaulle and finally totally undone by Sarkozy. And the US still maintains troops across the world from occupied Serbian Kosovo, to South Korea and the Philippines to all over Africa and Central and South America. When was the last time the US left a country to which it had sent troops? Vietnam in the 1970s? Lebanon in 1984? Georgia in 2008? Russia is creating a dangerous precedent for the American military-industrial complex.
DeleteExcellent move by Russia though. It guarantees that Syria will not become a drain on Russian resources, while at the same time setting a trap into which an arrogant asshole like Erdogan might lead Turkey. And for what it's worth, EU leaders will have a much harder time justifying sanctions on Russia to their own struggling populations - not that unelected, ultra-corrupt EU technocrats give a damn about what their own people think. Can't blame the "refugee crisis" on Russia anymore, either - in fact, I'll bet the next time "ISIS" strikes a western city, nationalists and outraged average citizens will show up at protests with Russian flags and portraits of President Putin.
My two cents: The Russia is saying I saved Bashar's ass, I got myself a new base, now you can do whatever the fuck you want with the rest of that shit hole of a country.
DeleteProud antisemite
Proud antisemite, your take is just about right. Moscow accomplished what it initially set out to accomplish: Save Bashar Assad's embattled government and increase its military and political footprint in the region. Now, that is has accomplished both, Moscow is preparing the field for the inevitable: The final chapter in Syria. This means partition of some sort. This may have caused some concerns and problems in Damascus and Tehran, but there is no logical way forward for Syria, especially if we are trying to stop the human suffering and a world war. Syria will be partitioned. I have been saying this for some time now and the latest news from Syria's new Kurdistan seems to confirm it -
DeleteSyrian Kurds Say They'll Declare Federal Region in Syria: http://abcnews.go.com/International/wireStory/group-russian-planes-leaves-syria-returns-home-37682863
As federal Syria idea is floated, Russia says Kurds should have spot at peace talks table: http://www.jpost.com/Middle-East/As-federal-Syria-idea-is-floated-Russia-says-Kurds-should-have-spot-at-peace-talks-table-447608
Let us try another way, as I don't think people got the gist of what I was trying to say. If the calculations in play are about expanding hostilities then Moscow did the right thing. I am not saying this was a stupid move in defeat, what I am saying is that this is very unexpected move, yes a smart one as I see hostilities expanding. Iran, Haz, and Syrian as well as Kurds can hold off and bleed the Saudi and toork forces easy enough. Short range anti air defense can be had by both sides this is not a zero sum game. What this does is what happened in Ukraine. I told you guy Moscow was not going to go in, they were going to revers the play and use Russian brothers on the ground to wear down the Uki army, the way the West had it pegged it was Moscow that was supposed to get bogged down.
DeleteTo date I have not seen this game being let go. So if you use this historical lesson we should see this is the same move. Moscow gets to say hey, peace and if the toorks or Saudi bastards advance it is not the Russians in the picture and the West can't spin this the way they want.
If a full blown hostilities come forth Moscow is not in a good position, as you can bet the West will come to the aid of the toorks. Right now the European scum is kissing toork ass, as you can all plainly see. They are even talking about having Turkey part of the Euro. So open your eyes and see the reality that is before you.
You wonder why the counsel of Europe is against Armenia? They are pro toork! They are about to have a visa free travel with the Turks. What is it about these other realities that are escaping some folks?
Vahram
Made more sense this time, Vahram. Well stated. I agree that Moscow has been concerned about getting stuck in the middle of an all out war because there are indications that certain interests are trying to push regional powers into a conflagration. As impressive and as sophisticated as Russian weapons systems deployed in Syria were, they were vulnerable because they were exposed, as the incident on November 23 revealed. Just imagine: Russia could have easily been sucked into a major war. Needless to say, Moscow does not need that right now, at least not for Syria. Ideally, a nation will wage war when it has plans to wage war and not when its enemies want trap it into a war, unless of course when it is attacked and has to defend itself. This is why Russia took the sucker punch by Turkey with amazing restraint. If there is one thing in this world that Russians know how to do well, that's warfare. When it comes to war fighting, you won't find a better nation. Russia's military staff knew that their forces in Syria are too close to hostile powers and too far from their motherland. Russian forces in Syria could be cut off in a major war. So, it makes sense that as soon as Moscow accomplished what it needed to in Syria - save the Alawites, expand its military and political presence in the region, showcase modern Russian arms and get its military units some realtime practice - it took a step back. That said, Russia will retain significant combat capabilities in Syria to protect what it achieved. At the end of the day, what we are doing here is play a guessing game. Moscow is playing a brilliant hand of chess, we are observing and speculating. Time will show why Moscow did what it did. One thing's for sure, with its military intervention in Syria, Moscow achieved historic success at a very low cost. It's been a brilliant execution of statecraft.
DeleteThis article caught my attention -
The Syrian war just taught Putin to worry about Iran: http://nypost.com/2016/03/15/the-syrian-war-just-taught-putin-to-worry-about-iran/
Although I have no respect for newspaper or the author, I do however agree with the notion that Moscow may not want Iran to get too powerful and influential.
Arevordi, I agree Moscow is playing chess, but we can't forget the West is playing checkers. That is the worry, as the moves so far have been checked, but if you are playing with fools you never know the stupid move that will be made. I think that is the problem.
DeleteSure they maintain the base and all, but at a reduced rate vs what they had. My logic is that the forces are being moved someplace else, should some idiots play a game of checkers the loss would not be great. Besides from a PR standpoint all main street hears is that the Russians pulled out. While me and you know they still have bases, the street is lead to believe that Moscow is out of the picture.
Very smart move indeed, but the worry is on other fronts. There is more coming, I can feel it. Moscow has been very careful to show it's arms. A sign a hint that don't play this game of checkers we have the might to counter it but we don't want this game. I think at least from a military point of view the West has seen this and changed the perception. But, and a big But here is that the Western political class is as lost as ever. Angela in German is going to face a revolt but she is not budging. The political class is too spoiled and still has not been bitten hard enough to change course. Europe is exploding and people are taking to the streets like we have not seen for a long long time. Yet there is blindness to the people on the street. If this is the case, I don't think the showing of Moscow's might has had a deep enough impact and hence force distribution. This came too quick for my liking. I believe part of the reason is what I just stated, that the political class in the West is just not getting the hints. That being the case I would redeploy my assets as well.
The Russians have created a irresistible trap called a Federation of Kurdistan. What is to follow is sure to keeps us ready to make designs on historical claims with Turkey. Reparations, return of territory and dealing with Azerbaijan and securing Armenia’s energy solutions. Having said that you cannot accomplish this if Russia withdraws its S400 s in Syria.
DeleteBerjr, I agree that another Kurdistan this time in Syria sets a much better precedence for us Armenians later down the road. That said, let's not get too hung-up on particular weapons systems. If Russia's enemies really wanted to, they could neutralize S-400 sites as well as other Russian installations in Syria in a very short time. Russian forces in Syria are too small in number and they are stationed too close to hostile borders from all sides. Russian officials realize this. They had initially thought that no nation would directly target Russian forces in Syria. The incident on November 23 revealed that that is no longer a safe assumption. So, the calculus changed. Yes, the S-400 brings very impressive combat capabilities to Syria, but because of the peculiarities of their position in Syria, they are vulnerable to capable military forces like NATO or even Israel. A Syrian Kurdistan can be maintained with or without S-400.
DeleteAnd I want to add this: Just because Moscow's move seemed sudden and unexpected, we should not automatically assume that there had to have been a serious problem the Russians are reacting to. The decision to withdraw some of the troops and hardware from Syria could have been made weeks ago. It's very normal - in fact standard procedure - not to announce or even hint at troops movements, especially in a war zone. Think of it this way: Had Moscow publicly announced it decision to withdraw troops, its enemies could have carried out a terror bombing near a Russian base or commenced a major ground offensive days before the announced Russian withdrawal to make it look as if Russians were retreating in defeat. Such a thing would have been a major PR defeat for Moscow and it would have unnecessarily endangered Russian lives. Moscow's move into Syria last autumn was a brilliant execution of statecraft. Moscow partial withdrawal from Syria has been another brilliant execution of statecraft. All in all, I am very impressed with Russia's military and its diplomatic corp.
With the Russian forces phasing( the bulk of it, the portion of it) out, the brunt of the fighting is on the SAA . Too much praise , but the fact remains that ISIS is still on the ground, and the oil fields under its thumb. Maybe the new scenario will invoke the Iranians playing a more robust and visible role than hitherto displayed. As for Israel, they will expand the war if they so wish, by its proxy forces, Turks and other malingering states. It would have been an unqualified success had the Russian withdrawal coincided with the capture of Rakka . The next chapter will have the Saudis , Turks , Kurds as main role players, and the role played will be to abet and support the Israeli power interests. Iran is bragging about more missile tests and other irritant action soft threatening the Israelis. Israel's main goal still remains the carving up of Suyia and install chaos and mayhem in Iran. Russia may be playing chess, the others may be playing chequers, chequers or chess, what are the Jews-Israelis playing at ? Russia has laid a trap, commentators comments. If the man in the street reads the Russian withdrawal as a trap, certainly this fact could not have escaped the brain cells of the war mongers and conductors. Letting the filthy turks and the imbecilic Saudis, fall into this "trap" is not going to be a major accomplishment. Israel essence de vivre is to have the entire region burn in flames, regardless of the burnt, thus ensuring its ongoing survival and aggrandisement. The day the burning embers engulf the Jewish state, that is when matters become very serious for the rest.
DeleteThe actual fighting in Syria has to be done by Syrians and Shiites - not Russians. Russians saved their ass during the past few months and handed the initiative and the advantage back to them. They should now get their shit together and become a more effective fighting force. Frankly, it sometimes feels as if Iran is playing a phantom role. I see Russian troops, I see Russian tanks, I see Russian airplanes, I see Russian flags everywhere in Syria... But why is it that I don't see any Iranian troops or Iranian military hardware in Syria? Iran needs to play a more active role in Syria. Anyway, Syria will be partitioned. Kurds have begun the process. Large swaths of Syria's Sunni populated desert regions in the east where ISIS is currently located will be written off as lost. So, Russians did what they initially intended to do: Save the Assad government and expand Russia's military footprint in the Levant. If this situation is inline with Israel's desires, then so be it. This is the only option the terrible war has left us. At the end of the day, the only entity that was directly responsible for this historic carnage is Assad's government. By that I mean, it was Alawite arrogance and political mismanagement that had allowed Islamic separatists to grow deep roots throughout Syria. Westerners/Jews did not do this, Arabs did this. Syria's enemies merely used whatever tools they could get their hands on in Syria to destroy the country.
DeleteArabs are a paradigm. Is there an Arab nation ?; or an arab world ?. Arab unity it's a chimera. I was in Syria and witnessed the phenotypes in the Syrian landscape. I was in Iraq , and the phenotypes there differed abysmally from those of Syria. How can we equate these two " Arab nations" with differing genotypes. I was in Egypt, and surprised to hear Egyptians vehemently denying that they are Arabs. " We are not Arabs, we are Egyptians", they boasted. Some time ago I found myself in a bus on an African safari . There were three Europeans and 20 Saudis. These Saudis were carbon copies of Pakistanies, Bangladeshis. I asked myself the question, are these Arabs ?, they definitely are aeons away from the genotypes of Syrians, Iraquies and Egyptians. The same applies to the rest of North African " Arabia " . It is a melange of multicolored variegated strains and crosses of races. There can never be so called Arab unity when the base is a hotch potch of mixtures, and monumentally heterogeneous. Homogeneity begets unity. Look at the majestic poise of Bashar al Assad, you discern a fine pedigree, and look at the incongruent/deracinated and confused visages of a Gaddaffi, Sissi or the Saudi princes and the answer to "Arab" disunity cries out straight into one's face.
DeleteIt's increasingly looking as if Russia's strategic objectives in Syria from day one were limited in scope. In my opinion, the agenda was primarily to: Save Assad's government for destruction, which seemed somewhat inevitable last summer; become a permanent and fundamental part of the political calculus in the region; preserve and expand its military footprint in Syria; showcase it's military prowess; showcase its new military hardware; gain valuable combat experience for its troops. Moscow achieved these in brilliant manner.
DeleteReasons behind it's partial withdraw has yet to be fully determined. Thus far, we can only speculate. It seems as if getting a bulk of its forces out of harms way while it has been victorious may have been an important factor for Moscow. The strategic repositioning of Russian forces for future operations may have been another. And yet another may be this: It is a good assumption that Damascus and Tehran may have been resistant to the idea of partitioning Syria. So, by symbolically withdrawing troops, in addition to the aforementioned, is Moscow also trying to force Damascus and Tehran to come to the negotiations table and accept reality?
Articles that caught my attention today -
Putin: Russia may deploy forces back to Syria ‘in mere hours’ if necessary: https://www.rt.com/news/335949-putin-russia-op-syria/
Syrian Kurds Hope to Establish a Federal Region in Country’s North: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/17/world/middleeast/syria-kurds.html?ref=world&_r=0
Putin the peacemaker: Russia’s president appears to turn from hard power to diplomacy: http://www.economist.com/news/middle-east-and-africa/21694996-putin-appears-turn-hard-power-diplomacy-russians-show-their-hand
The four reasons why Russia has withdrawn from Syria: http://www.independent.co.uk/voices/the-four-reasons-why-russia-has-withdrawn-from-syria-a6933841.html#
With Syria Pull-Out, Russia Scores Its First Win In The New Cold War: http://cognoscenti.wbur.org/2016/03/17/russia-tim-snyder
Issue of Boundaries: Russian withdrawal from Syria regarded as likely prelude to regional border reshape: http://armenianow.com/news/region/70636/armenia_region_putin_syria_russia_withdrawal_troops
Some people seem tempted to associate Russia's withdrawal decision with some form of political pressure from Putin on Assad and his government.
DeleteThe time to exercise pressure and compromise comes before offering the accomplishments of military intervention, not after it. This is the basics of negotiations, and Russians are masters of it.
When Putin says mission accomplished, it really is so. The international resolutions, the fate of al nusra, the sorting and sieving of the remaining opposition groups, the closure of Turkish border was the goal of the that mission.
Russians accomplished the mission agreed with Syria, that is to put a ceiling and framework for the political process, breaking Syria's isolation and bringing it to the “international community” as a key condition for its commitment to rid the world from terrorism.
To force the political West on the solution that Russia and Syria wants, Russia implicitly threatens with resumption of confrontations.
Putin withdraws, to say: "as we want, Me and Assad, or let's go back to war". Assad will be alone this time, but with him all the tools to show you what he is able to do, so please choose, because I am withdrawing.
Putin Backs Assad, Says Russian Warplanes Could Redeploy to Syria in Hours
http://www.wsj.com/articles/vladimir-putin-says-russia-could-redeploy-to-syria-in-hours-1458215620
SyrianArab, what we are doing here is simply discussing and speculating. Unlike you, who apparently thinks he knows exactly what's going on in Moscow and Damascus, I am intellectually honest enough to admit I don't. So, stop engaging in wishful thinking and selective reasoning and please stop nitpicking over everything I say. Also realize that internal quarrels and disagreements between allies can come before, during and after any kind of military operation, let alone an operation this difficult and this complex. Anyway, the following is Pepe Esconar's take on these developments -
DeleteIs There a US-Russia Grand Bargain in Syria?
"It’s spy thriller stuff; no one is talking. But there are indications Russia would not announce a partial withdrawal from Syria right before the Geneva negotiations ramp up unless a grand bargain with Washington had been struck. Some sort of bargain is in play, of which we still don’t know the details; that’s what the CIA itself is basically saying through their multiple US Think Tankland mouthpieces. And that’s the real meaning hidden under a carefully timed Barack Obama interview that, although inviting suspension of disbelief, reads like a major policy change document. Obama invests in proverbial whitewashing, now admitting US intel did not specifically identify the Bashar al-Assad government as responsible for the Ghouta chemical attack. And then there are nuggets, such as Ukraine seen as not a vital interest of the US – something that clashes head on with the Brzezinski doctrine. Or Saudi Arabia as freeloaders of US foreign policy – something that provoked a fierce response from former Osama bin Laden pal and Saudi intel supremo Prince Turki. Tradeoffs seem to be imminent. And that would imply a power shift has taken place above Obama — who is essentially a messenger, a paperboy. Still that does not mean that the bellicose agendas of both the Pentagon and the CIA are now contained"
Source: http://www.globalresearch.ca/is-there-a-us-russia-grand-bargain-in-syria/5515102
And the following is the very latest from the Jewish-owned Neocon mouthpiece in New York -
Wall Street Journal: Israel’s Main Concern in Syria: Iran, not ISIS
"The Israeli government’s priority is clear: to stop the rise of Iran as a regional power following last year’s nuclear deal and the lifting of international sanctions on Tehran. It is an approach that has increasingly aligned Israel with the anti-Iranian, Sunni Muslim camp led by Saudi Arabia. Asked in an interview to state Israel’s main objective in Syria, Dore Gold, the director-general of the foreign ministry, said: “At the end of the day, when some kind of modus vivendi is reached inside of Syria, it is critical from the Israeli standpoint that Syria does not emerge as an Iranian satellite incorporated fully into the Iranian strategic system.” ... “If we have to choose between ISIS and Assad, we’ll take ISIS. ISIS has flatbed trucks and machine guns. Assad represents the strategic arch from Tehran to Beirut, 130,000 rockets in the hands of Hezbollah, and the Iranian nuclear program,” said Michael Oren, a prominent lawmaker from Israel’s governing coalition and a former ambassador to Washington"
Source: http://www.wsj.com/articles/israels-main-concern-in-syria-iran-not-isis-1458207000
Assad's military has the strength to mop up the remnants of the terror forces and capture Rakka. Sooner or later the Iranians will be inveigled in this conflict in a more forceful manner if it is felt that Assad is being frustrated frustrated in taking over the remaining of occupied territory. The Syrian government will not countenance a fracture or a a partition its sovereign boundaries. Neither will the Iranians tolerate a "Sunnistan" ( supported and backed by Israel-Turkey and the Golf Arabs) under their noses . Assad's fate is dependent on reconquering lost territory and bringing the Syrian territorial integrity back as it was before the war. Politically the contours might change within Assad's Syria. The kurds in Syria might get more autonomy , as it is the bulk of the Sirian armed forces is predominately Sunni.An independent Kurdistan is , at the moment a chimera. Syrian Kurds are dependent on the SAA for support to keep their gains. On their own they do not have the capacity to maintain their confined enclaves. The Issis in the " artificial Sunnistan" will be eliminated in due course . Their only chance for survival is for a USA intervention , which will change the dynamics and dimension of the conflict, the incremental backing of Turkey and Saudi. The Israeli will be conducting operation in the back stage, moving the pawns and egging their dogs of war. The Saudis are a gargantuan gas bag. They will pour money and funds. Militarily they will be wiped out if they dare to cross into Syria. The turks are a question mark. Despite all the growling and barking by Erdogan they have not marched over the border yet. Russia is saying they could bring back their forces in a matter of hours; if the need arises. From an Armenian perspective , their fortunes hinge on Assad's success. A good number of them have moved to the motherland; and they are doing good there, although at the beginning was hard; many others have ,wrongly , migrated into the entrails of the beast- USA-EU. Inside the belly of the beast, they will become deracinated and in a few generations will be victims of the "Djermak Chart". It is an understatemnet to view the "West", as represented by the USA-EU ,as a laboratory of identity genocide.
DeleteI'm posting the video below for educational purposes only. I don't care for the British, I don't care for the Muslims, and there is no need for emotions. It is just fascinating to watch these western European countries descend from being former empires into total chaos. The most interesting details are around 1:10 where the blonde British whore joins the Muslims and screams "we don't do this at your fucking churches" (highlighting feminism and atheism), and around 2:17 when a liberal vicar with the effeminate mannerisms joins the Muslims (highlighting the corruption of western Christianity and the significance of the child sex abuse scandals involving high-ranking officials).
ReplyDelete***Muslims in East London: Violence, Racism, Bigotry and Hooliganism***
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tMZe5hXodQg
Once again, the next time some naive Armenian tries to argue that Armenia should join the EU because democracy and "muh high living standards and personal freedoms," ask them if they want to see parts of Yerevan, Gyumri, or Stepanakert end up like East London. Because as long as the regular man and woman in Armenia continue to look at potential EU membership as a good thing, Armenia will continue to face an existential threat. The only way to remove the threat is to program Armenians to become absolutely disgusted with every aspect of the west, until a Pavlovian reaction develops where the west becomes associated with national suicide. The people who made this excellent video below (somebody else posted it first a few months ago on this blog) have the right idea:
Եվրամիության հեքիաթների աշխարհում
(In the fairytale world of the EU)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=UWMeNFWpgO4
Excellent article my friend but I have a confession to make, I like Sanders. LOL I don't car about his nationality, like you said the others are more jewish than him. America needs the kind of stuff he says. Most of my friends in school also are really into him also. I think he is waking up Americans to real socialistic values which is not bad at all.
ReplyDeleteSerge
Actually, I also like him somewhat. A lot of what he says makes perfect sense, especially his criticism of Wall Street. But his policies are far too idealistic and thus unrealistic. At the end of the day, I don't think Americans are yet ready for socialism. Maybe in a few more years. Also, Sanders being a Jew is not a serious problem for me either, simply because being that he is a left wing Jew he is less inclined to kiss Jewish ass than all the other shabaz goyim, including Trump. I don't see Sanders openly praising Jews and Israel all the time. In other words: The Jew is less Jewish than all the goyim he is competing against. This is a new chapter in American history.
DeleteThat said, don't let his soft demeanor fool you. At the end of the day, Sanders is also a Zionist even though he does not have the need to express it and he is a warmonger. He is anti-Iranian and anti-Russian. Remember that while Republicans for the most part represent Neoconservative ideology in the US, Democrats for the most part represent Neoliberal ideology in the US. One side brings you war with "Judaeo-Christian" values and American flags, the other side brings you war with abortions, feminism, homosexuality, multiculturalism, welfare state, etc. At the end of the day, none of the sides will fix America's core problems (which is its imperialism) and both sides serve the devil.
Arevordi, I recently came across these saying about Armenians on some website:
ReplyDelete"Trust a snake before a Jew, a Jew before a Greek, but never trust an Armenian" French saying
"One Jew can cheat ten Greeks; one Greek ten Jews; and one Armenian ten Greeks" German saying
"It takes three Jews to cheat a Greek, three Greeks to cheat a Syrian, and three Syrians to cheat an Armenian" Levantine saying
"If you can make a good bargain with an Armenian, you can make a good bargain with the devil" Persian saying
"God made serpents and rabbits and Armenians" Turkish saying
Some might find these insulting I find them interesting. No doubt we are highly intelligent and sneaky and we are good judges of character. So take this as a compliment: Armenians like you are the reason why Jews have historically hated Armenians. You prove that we have the ability to see right through them. They know this about us.
Proud antisemite
Thanks for the... compliment? But seriously, Armenians do indeed have very distinct traits like the ones you noted. But other traits such as "individualism" and "arrogance" makes it almost impossible to utilize the more positive ones for the collective benefit of Armenia or the Armenian nation. Moreover, unlike Jews, we are not hated universally (we therefore don't circle our wagons); we do not have an ethnocentric/racist religion (our religion wants us to love everyone); we are not politically driven; we are not ideologically driven; we are not well organized, we are therefore not politically unified; and we shy away from building our nation... essentially because it's much easier to live well in a nation that is already built. Your take on why Jews dislike/hate Armenians is accurate. I would say it's more of an instinctual thing Jews share collectively (perhaps based on genetic memory) than an actual cognitive/conscious thing based merely on current circumstances.
DeleteThe kind or type of Armenian acumen that is worth 20 jews, 40 Greeks and 100 turks, might very well be extinct. It's folklore which became common currency born in the Ottoman empire. Being a vibrant, intelligent, and robust minority, that excelled and surpassed the other, much larger minorities in the former empire, the legend of the Armenian was born.
DeleteI have a theory about this Last topic: is it possible that Hayk when he defeated the Titan Bel from Babylon a plAce where historicly the jews lived it was really a war between our two People? Then I ve read that many of them think we are the Amelekites from the Bible were Jahve order the jews to kill them all. Something they were close enough to accomplish in the hands of their good friendo Mustafa Kemal...
DeleteIf we go ahead and categorize Jews as Semites (although most are not), than what you said would be somewhat accurate. For a very long time during our early history, our proto-Armenian forefathers constantly fought Semitic peoples from the south. Early Armenian folklore like Hayk and Bel were based on the memory of these prehistoric conflicts that took place regularly between the peoples of the Armenians Highlands and Semitic nations in the south. The following link to my other blog contains an interesting New York Times article about an excavation site in Syria -
DeleteAncient Civilization Unearthed in Syria:
http://arevordi.blogspot.com/2006/01/ancient-civilization-unearthed-in.html
Arevordi,
DeleteThank you for reminding me of things I knew and always was interested in, but slipped out of my attention caught in the present times. It shouldn't have, because what happened today in those regions has certainly very ancient roots. An idea I always floated was that the rise of the Mesopotamian Semitic civilization was largely based on enslavement of populations of 'Japhethitic' origin (Indo-Europeans). Interesting enough is that Japheth was considered the first born of Noah. The inversion of the birth order in favor of Shem was the first in the long series of falsifications of the 'Hebrew Bible'.
But even Talmudists would vacillate about the real place of Japheth: "The words "yaft elohim le-Yefet" (Gen. ix. 27) are interpreted as alluding to the construction of the Second Temple by Cyrus, who was descended from Japheth (Yoma 10a). Bar Ḳappara interpreted the passage as meaning that the Law will be explained in the language of Japheth (Gen. R. xxxvi.; Deut. R. i.); R. Ḥiyya b. Abba, interpreting "yaft" as derived from the root , meaning "beauty" (see Japheth, Biblical Data), explains it more clearly thus: "The Law will be explained in the beautiful language of the Greeks, descendants of Japheth" (Meg. 9b)."(Jewish Encyclopedia, Japheth)
We should take heart from the confirmation that indeed Noah planted the first vineyard and made the first wine!
I delighted in reviewing your other blog.
In historical, metaphorical or esoterical sense, yes, Noah's son Japheth was the forefather of European/Caucasian civilization. Moreover, Hayk, the ancient patriarch of Armenians, was the progeny of Japheth. According to tradition, Hayk fought the tyrant Bel (a the progeny of Noah's other son Ham) to create the Armenian nation around the base of Mt. Ararat some 4500 years ago. If you closely study the archaeological record in Asia Minor (Armenian Highlands) you will come to the realization that human civilization originated there. Anyway, I am glad you liked that blog. But I'm sure you will not like the other one about Christianity. So, to keep our peace and love intact, I ask you to please not read it :)
DeleteI recommend a 'classic': AUTRAN, Charles, "Mithra, Zoroastre et la préhistoire aryenne du Christianisme", Paris, Payot, 1935.
DeleteAlso: AUTRAN, Charles, "La Préhistoire du christianisme. T.I et II (complet). T. I : Autour de l'Asie Occidentale. T. II : Autour des Aryas". Payot, Paris,1941-1944
On the one hand, Russia is withdrawing the bulk of its aircraft in Syria.
ReplyDeleteOn the other hand, their newest combat helicopters are being deployed there.
Photo of Mi-28 in Syria: http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/bmpd/38024980/2923978/2923978_original.jpg
Photo of Ka-52 in Syria: http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/bmpd/38024980/2923734/2923734_original.jpg
The above new types of helicopters excel in night fighting.
My guess is that they will be used to help Syria take Palmyra from ISIS...and maybe even Raqqa.
Or, they are also there for protecting Russian military facilities from day and night attacks.
DeleteQuote of the day:
ReplyDelete"Russia spent $500 million on its six-month long military intervention in Syria.
US spent $500 million on training 'four or five' rebels".
I have the same thoughts about the Brussels attack as I did about the Paris attack: these people brought it on themselves. If such a statement hurts any feelings, then so be it. No use for an Armenian nationalist to cry over the tragedies that strike countries which historically screwed Armenia, and which today are in a tight alliance with Turkey.
ReplyDeleteFor insight, I remember reading the article linked below back in 2006, when I was a teenager, and understanding even back then that Europe was already finished. The article stated that the bitch in question wanted to demolish a monument to the Armenian Genocide:
Meet the Mayor of Brussels: She's a Muslim
http://www.brusselsjournal.com/node/671
I used to read history books and come across statements like "by late 1941 it was clear Germany would lose the war." It used to seem illogical to me to call the outcome of a major global war years before the main battles were fought and years before the majority casualties occurred. But looking at Europe now, it is clear that they are already dead. The only exceptions are in Eastern Europe, but even there only Russia has enough integrity to hold out without outside support - the EU and NATO aspiring former Warsaw Pact nations are hopeless and will either fall to western domination or Russian domination. Western Europe is on the road to becoming like Western Armenia: an Islamic cesspit devoid of its once-productive natives.
This was posted one day before the attack. Proof that the west is spiritually dead, and unworthy of continued existence:
http://www.dailystormer.com/belgian-official-says-terrorism-is-the-fault-of-europeans-for-not-being-nice-enough-to-moslems/
Belgian Official Says Terrorism is the Fault of Europeans for Not Being Nice Enough to Moslems
The problem with Europe is it's Anglo-American-Jewish occupation. Another one or two generations of this occupation and European/western civilization may be irreversibly damaged. This most recent terror operation in Belgium is the continuation of previous false flag operations.
DeleteAs soon as the Russian-led peace talks began last month, I began expecting another, more severe terror operation to hit a Western nation. Those who control groups like ISIS (Western/Turkish/Saudi intelligence organizations) are doing their best to draw the US and Europe into eastern Syria. It's part of the final chapter in Syria. It's part of their desire to invade ISIS controlled parts of Syria and establish a protectorate there.
Also, pay close attention to this most recent terror operation. Notice how real it looks this time? Notice much video coverage you have? This time the attacks were straight forward, without the highly orchestrated side shows we saw during some of the previous ones. Previous ones in Paris and California were micromanaged (highly orchestrated) by those who planned the attacks. This time, it's more conventional/traditional attack. They simply set their monsters loose into society.
Again, keep you eye on how they present (sell) this to the public. The talk will be about militarily securing eastern Syria to stop future attacks. And now, with Russia miraculously out of they way, they seem to have been given open path into eastern Syria. Yes, I am suggesting that Russians knew they had to take a step back and allow Western forces into Syria.
Arevordi, I really don't believe you'll have to wait one or two generations to declare Europe irreparably damaged, it is already done and will not be reversed. The remaining Europeans are heavily infected with ultraliberalism and anti-nationalism, they are just waiting to die off now. There aren't even any noteworthy groups with manpower, willpower, and resources to reverse it. Maybe Germany was kind of holding out, but then the Anglo-American-Jewish alliance forced a couple of million "refugees" on them to finish the job. And apart from Germany, the rest of western and northern Europe had given up on surviving as nation-states long ago. And you are correct that the Anglo-American-Jewish alliance pushed this twisted self-destruction on Europe, but Europeans themselves are also 100% responsible for accepting it. A post-mortem analysis on western Europe will be invaluable for Russia in the future.
DeleteI recalled reading your words about expecting another terrorist attack to shock people into intervention in Syria. The question is are people dumb enough to blame Syria, when the flow of immigrants and the Islamization of entire neighborhoods have clearly been going on for decades.
I had not noticed the difference in realism between this attack and previous ones until you pointed it out. "Micromanaged" was the right word. When I hear about large-scale, coordinated attacks in the developed world, I usually just assume that the authorities knew, but did not intervene because they calculated that a few deaths were an acceptable cost for the crisis and associated opportunities to be exploited. Isn't Europe tightly monitored, especially with the current influx of Muslims and recent attacks? Don't mass transit hubs like airports and trains have heightened security? Is it that easy to assemble and transport such powerful bombs, and coordinate an attack in the capital of the EU, not too far from technocrat headquarters?
It will be interesting to watch them sell this just as you described. I can already guess that most people have already changed their social media profile pictures to transparent selfies in front of a Belgian flag, and started with #PrayforBrussels hashtags.
Russia accomplished its goals and pulled back. If NATO goes on an adventure in Eastern Syria, it will be another Vietnam or Afghanistan for them.
Also, when Trump isn't pandering to AIPAC in order to secure the evangelical vote, he has made some relevant statements:
https://pbs.twimg.com/media/CeJV3yIWoAE8mBW.png
ps: LOL never seen Medvedev show emotion before
Russian PM calls Ukraine's security chief a "dimwit" over comments on Brussels blasts
http://tass.ru/en/politics/864210
Sarkis, the previous two Paris attacks had a lot of anomalies, including the "suicide" of police investigator looking into the Charlie Hebdo attacks and the policeman that was [not] shot in the head on the sidewalk. The two Paris attacks produced some very strange videos. In a day when everyone with a cellphone is a photojournalist, not one convincing picture or video of the actual attacks has yet been seen. Even the bombs they supposedly detonated in the second Paris attack seemed like duds, like the one at the restaurant/cafe that didn't even shatter the windows when it exploded. To date, I have not seen a single surveillance video showing the attackers at the concert or the bombers outside the stadium. In California, there were multiple eyewitness accounts of "three active shooters". And then somehow the Pakistani couple (patsies?) gets ambushed and killed. Investigating officials then allowed reporters into the couple's house to basically run amuk??? You are a lawyer, has something like that ever been done before?
DeleteThe previous operations looked like they were micro-managed. This time it looks like they macro-managed it. They set their animals loose.... or set off previously planted bombs - and allowed police forces and news organizations to simply do their jobs. In others words: The attacks this time around seem like traditional/conventional false flags, without the micromanaged theatrics.
Again, for the naive in our midst: These operations are carried out by "elements" within governments (i.e. intelligence organizations, the deep state, rouge elements within government, ect) and not governments per se. To get things done, sometimes these elements cooperate with or solicit the services of intelligence agencies from countries like Saudi Arabia, Turkey, Israel, Pakistan, etc. Therefore, what we know as "elected officials" most probably do not know what is going on; they just know that they have to REACT to the official narrative of what's going on. In other words: Their hand is being forced by unseen forces. And the official narrative will naturally be this: ISIS organized or ordered this from their strongholds in Syria and that the only way to stop them from doing this again is to set up an anti-terror coalition and liberate the territories from them.
Arevordi, are you saying Russians pull out was connected to this terror attack?
DeletePS: I don't know if you read this article
Is There A US-Russia Grand Bargain In Syria? http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-20/there-us-russia-grand-bargain-syria
Arevordi, I should have been clearer in the way I worded my comment. I only intended to convey that I've internalized the fact that every major "terrorist act" is a show, an advertisement or marketing tool to make the masses buy the elite's agenda. So much so that I don't pay much attention to mainstream coverage anymore. Hence I didn't really notice any difference, because I just did not pay attention.
DeleteBesides, I don't want to see the effeminate reaction of the feminized society of the west: lots of tears for the camera, lots of weaklings holding each other and begging their Zionist-Occupied Governments to save them, and lots of #YouAintIslamBruv and #IllRideWithYou coddling of Muslims. It's disgusting. Not a shred of masculinity to be found anywhere. Not a single "hey WTF are Muslims doing in California anyway, I thought Hispanics covered the declining population and cheap labor problem?" And of course no one points out the role of the Anglo-American-Jewish elites, or condemns western imperialism around the world which is the root cause of these problems. These post-terror tear fests have become like a sick ritual celebrating globalization, victimhood, and national death - a twisted Church for the New Age.
Of course, everything you mentioned about Paris (Charlie Hebdo, Kosher supermarket, November 2015) and San Bernardino are true. In fact I have a folder with relevant videos downloaded, highlighting the inconsistencies regarding the following suspicious events and false flags.
9-11
Alison Parker and Adam Ward Shooting [2015-08-26]
Boston Marathon Bombing [2013-04-15]
Cassidy Stay Family Shooting [2014-07-09]
Crisis Actors
Hollowhoax
John F. Kennedy Assassination [1963-11-22]
Paris Bombings [2015-11-13]
Paris Charlie Hebdo Shooting [2015-01-07]
Paris Kosher Supermarket Shooting [2015-01-09]
San Bernardino Shooting [2015-12-02]
Sandy Hook Elementary School Shooting [2012-12-14]
South Carolina Church Shooting [2015-06-17]
The signs are there for all to observe, evaluate and derive conclusions from. Peace talks over Syria began a few weeks ago. Moscow announced its partial military withdrawal from Syria soon thereafter. Syrian-Kurds announced their desire for semiautonomy soon thereafter that. Instead of spinning Russia's decision to deescalate in Syria as a defeat for Putin, the Western press and Western officials began praising Russia. What's more, President Obama gave a very candid interview to a major Western news organization in which he was self-critical and blamed his allies for a lot of the problems. President Obama even admitted that Ukraine is more important to Russia than to the US. Talk about easing Russia's sanctions could also be heard in the West...
DeleteIn the meanwhile, ISIS attacks intensified. France was hit; The US was hit; Turkey was hit. Now, Belgium is hit. There may be other targets. I predicted renewed attacks in Europe in mid February. The attacks are ultimately designed to convince 'reluctant' Americans and Europeans to send troops into eastern Syria. As a result of these attacks, all the talk in Western power centers is not about Bashar Assad or Russia but about securing ISIS occupied parts of Syria and eventually partitioning the country along ethnic/religious lines.
By taking a step back in Syria after the military situation in Alawite controlled territories were stabilized, Moscow has effectively signaled that it's agenda in Syria was primarily to preserve Assad's government, secure Alawite controlled territories in Syria and become a permanent military/political fixture in the Levant. Moscow has thus given Western powers freedom of operation in eastern Syria, where ISIS is present.
While Moscow is ostensibly allied to Iran and I am glad that it is, it will not do things in the region that will help Iran turn into a regional superpower. While an "Iranian arc" exists, it's vulnerable. High level policymakers in Moscow would rather see a 'balance' between regional Jews, Shiites and Sunnis. It's a very wise, long term strategy on part of Moscow. The thinking is this: You don't fight competitors or monsters by creating new competitors or monsters. This "geopolitical management" is something Russians have learned and mastered through the centuries. This is something Western powers are not good at ultimately because unlike Russia, which is in the middle of everything, Western are insulated by geography and are thus more likely to take risks (i.e. recklessness).
To reiterate: Russia intervened in Syria to save the Alawite community and the region's Shiite presence from total destruction; secure and expand its military and political footprint in Syria; and turn Russia into a powerful geopolitical factor Western powers will have no choice but to deal with. When Russia militarily intervened last October, it forced Western powers to alter/change their agenda for Syria. A negotiated settlement to Syria's civil war was thus inevitable. Now, this negotiations process seems to have stared.
Maximalism and hardlined politics has no place in geopolitics. Once more: Politics is not a domestic dispute or a bar fight. One wrong move in politics can cause a world war and a catastrophe for humanity. Moscow is managing the situation by not giving in to Western demands but also not unconditionally siding with Assad's government or Iran. Let's face it: For Moscow, Ukraine is more important than Syria. Moscow will use its military presence in Syria - and its desire to negotiate with Western powers over the fate of Syria - to convince Western powers to take a step back from Kiev and repeal the sanctions.
I think the following article that just appeared in Forbes is related to this all this -
Crimea Celebrates Its Second Anniversary As Part Of Russia: Time To Drop Sanctions Against Moscow: http://www.forbes.com/sites/dougbandow/2016/03/23/crimea-celebrates-its-second-anniversary-as-part-of-russia-time-to-drop-sanctions-against-moscow/#7d7275123461
Arevordi, that analysis makes sense and corresponds to the facts we have seen. I'd be glad if the Syria conflict would wind down like that, and the war be confined to Syria and Iraq. Any thoughts on how Turkey will fare? What will its punishment for the Su-24 be? Maybe an independent Kurdistan to be played (and discarded) as a pawn by the west, Israel, and Russia?
DeleteAgain, compare Jews mocking the impotence and weakness of their European rivals, to Armenians' nonstop begging Turkey's Europeans allies to "recognize" the Armenian Genocide (and maybe support regime change in Yerevan). Dominant mindset v. aimless Gypsy/Arab mindset:
DeleteJews gloat at Brussels terror attacks
http://diversitymachtfrei.blogspot.de/2016/03/jews-gloat-at-brussels-terror-attacks.html
Arevordi,
DeleteThere are lots of signs, but the question is how to interpret them. Some would say the Russian purpose all along has been to preserve the Syrian state, not an Alawite or Shia region. Also, I look at the supposed ISIS attacks (the one in Brussels looks full of crisis actors and the usual bogus blood and such) as a way of bringing in the police state that will be required to hold the EU and possibly the US together. The economy is likely to go south pretty seriously over the next few years, and it is bad already for perhaps 30% of the population. France and parts of the EU have already passed truly totalitarian laws regarding speech - some French bloggers and alternative news folks have shut down in the last month or two due to some new laws.
Next, the Syrian army is about to take Palmyra, and then should have a straightforward path to Deir ez-Zur. So where can the West intervene with boots on the ground? What is their path in? It may be that parts of Eastern Syria are a no-man's land for some years, but that wouldn't be a partitioned territory as long as Syria and her allies had a serious presence there. A Kurdish zone is a separate question, of course.
As for sanctions and the Ukraine, the sanctions may well be a plus for Russia, and they certainly cause great problems for the EU. It is debatable whether Russia needs to offer anything to get rid of them. And the Minsk agreements put Kiev and Berlin and Brussels in a terrible bind. Like with the sanctions, time may be on Moscow's side. It is ugly for those who back Russia, but there is a harsh logic that makes Kerry want to go to Moscow, not Lavrov DC.
In any case, to maintain the balance that you (and I) see as being in Russia's interests, the preservation of Syria is required. If Hezbollah goes and Syria is partitioned, then Iran is likely to be strangled. That's what the war was over, more so than gas.
The above doesn't seem maximalist to me; it was the West who blew up Syria, after all, and tried to change the status of things. Russia is certainly willing to make spheres of influence and behavior deals. All along, many Russians of importance, such as Lavrov, have said it is going to take time for the realization that the US and West can't just do everything they want in the world to sink in. We are getting closer to that time, and the high quality of Russia's maneuvers deserve a fair bit of the credit.
Eurasian
Regarding the false flag in Belgium:
DeleteThe third terrorist who is said to have escaped from the airport was most probably the "handler" (i.e. the person in charge of arming and then bringing the other two to their target destination). The other two blew themselves up, the handler escaped leaving behind an unexploded bomb which was said to have been more powerful that the other two. One escaping and leaving behind a more powerful bomb seems like a common theme in these kinds of operations. Also notice that the "handler" was the only one in disguise and unlike the other two, he was not wearing any gloves. Officials claim they don't know the identity of the individual that escaped. You can bet however that they will most likely kill or arrest someone in the next few days or weeks and claim it was him.
It's all a show. As I said, some are micromanaged, some are macromanaged. And speaking of macromanged terror operations: Compare this murder of a Palestinian freedom fighter by an Israeli occupation soldier -
IDF soldier executes wounded Palestinian stabbing attacker (GRAPHIC): https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tvBH671uoDE
To the supposed murder of a policeman by masked assailants in Paris last year -
Charlie Hebdo police officer shooting zoomed in slow motion: http://www.liveleak.com/view?i=1ec_1420640263
In the first video, notice the incapacitated man's abrupt head and hand movement upon getting shot, the burst of dust around his head and the immediate outflow of blood. NONE of that was seen in the second video of the policeman in Paris. The policeman's head did not jerk at all, there was no blood whatsoever and the burst of dust on the pavement was clearly was some distance away from the policeman's head. The rifles used by the masked men were most probably firing blanks.
I don't have the stomach to do so, but you can check countless other ISIS executions of prisoners and compare them for yourselves. I really hate to post videos or pictures of people getting murdered. It really bothers me. But I sometimes have to do this to wake people up from their fucking sleep.
The policeman's "killing" during the Charlie Hebdo false flag was one of the operation's "PR" sideshows, so were many of the fake ISIS beheadings of CIA operatives posing as journalists. Stuff like this goes over the heads of most people because most people, a vast majority of people in fact, simply cannot accept the notion that an elaborate hoax of this kind can be carried-out by their governments. Ask the sheeple why the twin towers collapsed, they will say because airplanes hit it... Ask them why then did building WTC 7 collapse, they'll give you a blank stare or make up stupid excuses. They will do everything possible to not to think the "unthinkable".
The sheeple's refusal to wake up and their reluctance to believe that Western governments (elements within Western governments) can do stuff like this is exactly the reason why Western governments have the confidence to continue doing what they do.
The latest round of intra-Syrian peace talks in Geneva wrapped up on Thursday with a paper of 12 points of commonalities being delivered to both sides for further consideration by UN Special Envoy for Syria Staffan de Mistura.
Deletehttps://www.kuna.net.kw/ArticleDetails.aspx?id=2494450&language=en
Did the US and Russia reach a deal on Syria? The document surprisingly doesn't mention Assad though. This looks like a trap. I sense there's another round of escalation just around the corner, perhaps this is the calm before the storm.
Vahagn
Here's a very interesting article that appeared in today's New York Times -
DeleteThe Scorpion’s Tale: Did Assad Take Putin for a Ride?: http://www.nytimes.com/2016/03/23/world/middleeast/bashar-al-assad-syria-russia-west.html?ref=world&_r=0
Arevordi,
DeleteNot pretending to know what did or didn't happen in Brussels, but video today is not very much proof of anything, if it ever was. For example, contemplate these two:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8F9jXYOH2c0
http://petapixel.com/2016/03/21/face-swap-technology-getting-creepy/
The first one is quite funny, and many here would enjoy it. The second shows that it is now easily possible to modify someone's actions on TV in real-time. It wouldn't even take the CIA or somebody like that to hack into the national TV of a small country and broadcast a fake or modified speech. And, of course, there was talk that the West wanted to show TV broadcasts of Damascus falling or Assad fleeing at various points of the war.
It being Easter, though, I think it is worth pointing out that we are fighting forces of darkness. They worship the lie, and are ultimately lawless. It is their nature. The idea that CNN would broadcast even 10% truth on important topics is debatable, so we should carefully sift through things as best we can over time.
Eurasian
Bosnian Serb leader Karadzic responsible for 'Srebrenica genocide', sentenced to 40 years.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.rt.com/news/337035-karadzic-guilty-verdict-tribunal/
Funny how Serbs defending themselves from invading Muslim aggressors are "guilty of genocide," but Israeli and NATO imperialists who kill innocent Muslims -who are minding their own business in their Muslim homelands- are hailed as "spreading freedom and democracy." Funny how Turks are never held guilty for genocide against Armenians, Assyrians, Greeks, and even Kurds. Seriously, these international judicial entities are total garbage, corrupt from top to bottom; a kangaroo court with show trials held purely for theatrics and as a formality.
And the judge was South Korean to boot. South Koreans are a pathetic society with a fetish for being dominated by Americans - they willingly submit to US control just like Poland and the rest of Europe. I personally find their plastic surgery obsessed, ultra-consumerist society disgusting. Trump is correct when he says they should start paying for US protection. Also, they need to get over the victim act and stop blaming their many shortcomings on Japan.
The more tragic thing for the Korean nation is, North Korea doesn't have that kind of fetish as their South Korean cousins do, but it is replaced by a society of starving people and a heavily militarized culture to boot. What's even worse is that Christian missionaries (of the Evangelical kind) are extremely popular in the South. Heck, I'm not sure if North Korea actually preserves more of the original Korean culture than the South did.
DeleteAnd funny you should bring up Japan, because their insular nature has allowed them to develop a kind of culture that allows them to be more conservative. Yet the Japanese too, prefer American domination to Sinocentric tributary relationship (for a good reason).
If Japan stopped groveling before the Americans, then they should at least act like they're the regional rival to China. It would be nice if the Greater East Asia Co-Prosperity Sphere existed instead of this idiotic Sinocentric hegemony over the rest of Asia, at least because it will give other nations an options between an anti-Western China and a potentially anti-Western Japan.
Քրիստոս Հարյավ ի Մեռելոց, Օրհնյալ է Հարութիւնը Քրիստոսի
ReplyDeleteToday we commemorate the day when the Son of God resurrected from the dead and forever changed history. I hope one day Christians will open their eyes and realize that Christ is NOT the Jewish messiah; he never was, he never will be. Everything about Christ was anathema to Jewish belief and practice. The Christian God is a universal God of compassion, love and forgiveness. The Hebrew deity is a tribal god of war, genocide and vengeance. The Triune God of Christianity (Father, Son, Holy Spirit) has no similarities to the tribal deity Jews worship.
The first portion of Jewish sacred literature (i.e. earth's creation, garden of Eden, great flood, etc.) were adopted by Jews from proto-Armenian peoples of Asia Minor. In fact, Abraham, the "father" of Jews and Muslims, was a proto-Armenian who lived in the Armenian city of Urfa (Edessa). The rest of Jewish sacred literature is basically their national history as seen thorough the eyes of their prolific prophets, some of whom were truly righteous men.
Zoroastrianism, the oldest monotheistic religion in the world and a faith founded by Aryan peoples, is the closest any religion can get to Christianity. In fact, upon closer look, one can see that Zoroastrianism is intimately tied to Christianity. Hidden in plain sight is the astounding realization that Christ's earthly life began with Zoroastrians and ended with Zoroastrianism.
As the Jewish king Herod sought the infant Christ to KILL him, three Zoroastrian Priests (known as Moger in Armenian and Magi in English) from the east (either from Persia or Armenia) were seeking Christ to instead WORSHIP him! While Christ was nailed to the cross, he looked that the crucified thief next to him and said, "today you will be with me in PARADISE"! Paradise, meaning garden, is a Persian word, not a Hebrew word, not an Aramaic word. Paradise's association with heaven and the afterlife is exclusively a Zoroastrian and now a Christian concept. Jews have never believed in an afterlife in the way Christians do.
Moreover, a virgin giving birth to a godman is purely a pagan concept; similarly, triune gods were well known throughout the pagan world but blasphemy in Jewish tradition; scriptures associated with Christ are peppered with solar symbolism.
The only other sacred book that the being known as "Holy Spirit" appears in is the Zoroastrian Avesta, where it appears by the Persian name of "Spenta Mainyu" (also meaning holy spirit) and also functions as the messenger of the supreme deity, Ahuramazda. What's more, Christ never spoke a word of Hebrew, he spoke Aramaic, the lingua franca of the time. He quoted from the Septuagint (the Hellenized version of Jewish scripture, one that conservative Jews reject as corrupted by paganism). All of Christ's students were Hellenized Jews. Christ lived a strict Zoroastrian lifestyle; he refused material possessions, resisted physical urges, emphasized the importance of good deeds on earth and the afterlife.
The Essenes, who many scholars claim Christ was a member of, was an ascetic form of Zoroastrianism. Another Zoroastrian sect that had great impact on Christianity was Mithraism.
In my opinion, and may God forgive me if I am mistaken, Christianity was the manifestation of Zoroastrian mysteries in Palestine; Christ was "judeofied" through the efforts of Emperor Constantine the Great who's intent was political, to unite the empire's large Pagan and Jewish communities under one spiritual/ideological belief system; the early church fathers were therefore given the task to fuse the Jewish tradition with Christ's gospels (a process that had already been started by Christ's Hellenized disciples); this newly formulated religion was then spread throughout the world by the use of force. Many Jews (probably most) melted into this newly formed Christian world. Modern Jews are the decedents of those who essentially resisted the emperor's "social engineering".
These are my personal beliefs. It took me a lifetime and a lot of research - and psychological effort - to come to these realizations. It was a troubling journey, but in time, the realization that Christ could not have been the so-called Jewish messiah and that Christianity is the continuation of Zoroastrian mysteries deepened my faith in a universal God. With a proper mindset, some objective research and a lot of meditation, you may also begin to see Christianity in a whole new light. If you have a thirst for knowledge, I encourage you to seek. That said, I should add that I still see myself as an Armenian Christian and I fully support the Armenian Apostolic Church. Our church is our nation's oldest surviving institution and it is a depository of great cultural and spiritual wealth. An attack against our church is an attack against our nation. Moreover, more so than any other Christian church today, Christian Orthodoxy is the only place where I feel the ancient mysteries of Zoroastrianism (and its off-shoot Mithraism) alive and well.
DeleteHad I been alive during the battle of Avarayr in 451 AD, I would most probably have supported the Zoroastrian Vasak Sunni for a number of reasons, not the least of which would be geopolitical. But, I am very glad that the Christian Mamikonian clan eventually won the struggle. Why? Ultimately because Christianity stood the test of time. In the 5th century AD, Zoroastrianism, a faith that was already at the time about two thousand years old, was a dying civilization. Had the Mamikonians failed and Armenians remained Zoroastrian in the 5th century, we would have most likely either converted to Islam when Persia itself converted to Islam without a fight some two hundred years later in 650 AD... or been something similar to today's Yezdis.
Christianity helped Armenians stand apart in a region that was subject to thorough Islamization; Christianity became a shelter in which Armenians preserved their identity during the darkest period in the region's history and in the absence of an Armenian state; Christianity became for Armenians a catalyst for great cultural advancements. Despite my personal beliefs, I am a Christian (i.e. a follower of Christ) and I am proud of my nation's Christian heritage. While I see pagan Armenians as my spiritual brothers, I pity Armenian atheists and I have nothing but disdain towards those who attack the Armenian church.
It is also a shame that Zoroastrianism has been relegated to an endangered religion today when it could have had a chance to supplant Christianity as the dominant religion of the world, but since it was tied to the ancient Persian culture, there was absolutely no way a non-Persian could have converted to Zoroastrianism. Mithraism though, would be a different story.
DeleteIs it possibly true that both Oriental and Eastern Orthodox Christianity may have had some influences from Mithraism and to a lesser extent, Manicheanism?
While I agree with you on why Armenians eventually had to stay Christian, I have to say that the transition from Mithraism (Armenians were more Mithraic than Zoroastrian) to Christianity could have been much smoother, such as was the case with Rome/Byzantium, where Christianity was accepted in 313 AD, and only a few decades later did it become the official religion. In our case, 301 AD inflicted a huge blow on our culture and literature. Having said that, I fully support the Armenian Apostolic Church today, not only because we can find a lot of traces of Mithraism in it, but also because it is part of our national identity nowadays. There truly is something spiritual in our sharakans (quite a few of them were actually Mithraic hymns (Aravot Luso)), more so than in Catholic churches.
DeleteI believe that now the time has come that the Armenian church start working with our ancient studies scholars so that together we may find more pagan traces within Armenia.
Happy Easter to all.
Even though I am probably the least religious / spiritual person on this blog, I agree 100% with the message here. Several crucial points were made:
Delete-Zoroastrianisn was dying, and if Armenia had not become Christian then it would have almost certainly become Islamic. And today, if hypothetically the Armenian Church was destroyed, then within a generation or two Armenians would just adopt an imported form of Christianity and thus cede religious control of the nation to foreigners (Catholics, Protestants, or even Muslims). Masses need some belief system to keep them going and explain things they fear and don't understand. Especially the majority of Armenian peasants, who are somewhat primitive, Gypsy-like, and highly superstitious and gullible to the point where it is common to find belief in tarot card readings, psychics, fortune-tellers, coffee-cup reading, witchcraft (tookhtukir or whatever the Armenian word is), curses, etc. No amount of social conditioning can change this
-Christianity gives a common value system, morals, and national identity. It serves a political purpose. This cannot be ceded to foreign control. No use bitching about what Christianity did to pagans 1700 years ago in Armenia. That's part of ancient history, no need to open wounds that have long closed. Armenian Christianity was fully Armenianized and de-jewed centuries ago. In fact, atheism is now closer to Jewish values than Christianity.
-An attack on the Church is a subversive attack on the nation and national identity. To paraphrase Mein Kampf, "obviously between science and religion, science wins in explaining technical details of the world; but the purpose of religion is to bind the nation and give it a common identity, morals, and sense of purpose."
-Atheists today are nearly 100% ultraliberals and anti-nationalists, that's because atheists have traded in their blind faith and obedience in religion for blind faith and obedience in "science," but scientists can be as corrupt as priests and tell you lies like "there is no such thing as race" or "diversity is our strength" or "homosexuality is not a mental disease." Spend enough time with atheists and you'll realize that they are all Trotskyist at heart. Also, no nation ever developed based on logic and reason, every nation developed a religious system to explain the unknown. This is a need based on human nature, and human nature is the same today as it has even been.
One point I'd like to add: It is a major problem that the Christian Church holds the Bible, including the Old Testament, as a "holy book" and as the infallible word of God. True believers bow to the Bible, and thus to Yahweh. It is great that intellectuals out there understand that Yahweh was a small-dicked Hebrew faggot, but I think the absolutely majority of the masses don't understand the difference between God as described in the two separate parts of the Bible. It is an inherent limitation of Christianity.
Ps I support the Armenian Church for cultural and political reasons. But I look down on people who actually believe the myths.
Sarkis, I guess on a certain level we look down on each other. But I hope you will one day realize that you are also a victim of Anglo-American-Jewish social engineering and will seek to somehow rekindle spirit that is asleep within you. That said, your comments about atheism and why we need to protect the national church were excellent. I applaud you for being intellectually honest and objective.
DeletePS: During the second and third centuries AD one of the largest Christian sects in existence were the Marcionites. Marcionism rejected the Jewish Torah (the Old Testament) as the book of the devil. The sect, like so many other Christian sects at the time, was eventually pushed into extinction by the enforcers of the empire's newly formulated Christian doctrine.
I was very happy to read your comments, Ռազմիկ Արտաշես. I don't differentiate between Zoroastrianism and Mithraism simply because Mithraism is an off-shoot of Zoroastrianism. But yes, Armenia was definitely more Mithreic, and it was through Armenia that Mithraism spread into the Roman Empire. Moreover, I agree that Armenians jumped head and feet into the new religion and in the process destroyed everything from the old order and hurt relations with Persia. A belief system (in effect a system of government) that had sustained Armenia for thousands of years was utterly and ruthlessly destroyed by Christian zealots. That is what you call fanaticism, maximalism, shortsightedness, political illiteracy and self-destructive behavior. The spread of early Christianity actually reminds me of how Bolshevism and Democracy have spread. Nevertheless, this discussion once again speaks about the character of our people. We actually saw a very similar process take place twenty-five years ago when we enthusiastically and thoroughly destroyed the old Soviet order and blindly and happily adopted the new Western order in its place. We shutdown every single school that taught Russian in the country and in its place we built schools that taught English. Unfortunately, there is no middle ground or foresight in the Armenian psyche. Anyway, we are who we are and we have to work with what we have.
DeleteAnd speaking of our Zoroastrian-Christian tradition, you cant get more Zoroastrian than the sacred Christian chant "Aravot Luso" (the morning light) and the liturgy of "Arevagal" (coming of the sun), where Christ, like Mithra he deposed, is the personification of the sun -
Առաւոտ լուսոյ — Լուսինե Զաքարյան: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=zX_qAOgp26c
Արևագալի ժամերգություն: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iDyDYNaaMUw
Also, this popular chant sung during Easter holy week is called "u՞r es mayr im" (where are you mother?). It's an old (no one know how old) popular song (not liturgical) which depicts a distraught Christ calling for his mother before his crucifixion and death. The melody is said to come from our pagan tradition. It is being sung in Armenia's only surviving Mithreic temple in Garni -
Ur es Mayr Im, Arr A. Bobikyan. Luys Quintet: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xNC2skXZu6g
And for the appreciation of high culture I present you this this music video produced by my favorite musician/composer Jordi Savall -
Esprit d'Arménie. Menk kadj tohmi (Chant de lutte). Jordi Savall: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_iQI9B-I_zY
Sarkis, it is said that one of man's mortal sins is arrogance. Man's greatest arrogance has been to deny the existence of a higher power. If you are an unbeliever, the journey to belief in God can start with the simple acknowledgement or realization that the universe (and all that is found within it) could not have resulted merely by chance. The realization that there is higher intelligence behind the physical/material manifestation of the universe is the one thing that keeps me open to the belief in supernatural forces and the spiritual world. If one looks at the limitless majesty of the universe and all the amazing lifeforms found within it and is incapable of seeing the handiwork of an intelligent designer, then they are spiritually dead and they may never recover. This is why I say I pity atheists.
DeleteIn a nutshell: Atheists (evolutionists in particular) believe that if you throw a bucketful of sand in the air enough times... one day the falling sand will form a sandcastle by chance. Deists on the other hand acknowledge the existence of a higher force that drives the universe.
Just realize that the deeper scientists delve into the sciences, the more perplexed they become. The universe is infinitely large and infinitely small and infinitely complex. Explaining how things may or may not work is not the same as explaining how things came into being and what makes them work. At best, Science can only explain how things work. Science can tell you that cells divide but science cannot tell you what makes cells divide. Modern science is merely based on observation and experimentation, and both can be deeply flawed. God lives in the sciences: chemistry, mathematics, physics, biology. The reason why the universe has observable laws and functions like a machine is the divine life force that is found within it. That life force is what we call God, but you can call it whatever you want. At the end of the day, it's a mystery and that mystery is the beauty of faith. Many fine scientists have come to God through the sciences. The following article caught my attention last year. It's an interesting read -
Science Increasingly Makes the Case for God: http://www.wsj.com/articles/eric-metaxas-science-increasingly-makes-the-case-for-god-1419544568
Speaking of Hitler and the Nazis: Hitler's comments you quoted were about organized religions (about Catholicism in particular). He was right. But here is more to it. If organized religions are for the masses, then the occult is for the elite. I am sure you know that the Nazis were very seriously into the occult. So, it would be very disingenuous of you to suggest that Nazis were atheists. Nazi leadership were deists and they believed in the existence of the supernatural world. And it's not only Nazis that were into the occult. The Western elite is heavily into the occult. You can therefore say that the rulers of the world are members of occult-like secret orders (e.g. Freemasonry, Rosicrucians, Illuminati) and they practice all forms of secret rites, as well as kabalism. Not much unlike Armenian peasants you mentioned! In fact, some of the more ancient occults are used as portals to channel into the spirit world and make contact beings (deities, angels, demons). Believe it or not, these things are done by very intelligent, very powerful and influential people - and this has been going on for thousands of years. But this stuff has generally been kept away from the masses. In the past, organized religion were served to the masses to placate them. Today, the masses are being served atheism. I hate to say this but some of these occults are probably where the truth about supernatural world can be found. Elements of Mithraism can also be seen in these secret orders. Anyway, if you want to read an atheist's journey to faith, I would recommend this book to you -
The Case For A Creator: A Journalist Investigates Scientific Evidence That Points Toward God: http://www.amazon.com/The-Case-For-Creator-Investigates/dp/0310242096
"No use bitching about what Christianity did to pagans 1700 years ago in Armenia. That's part of ancient history, no need to open wounds that have long closed."
DeleteSarkis, I know that you're an intelligent person, but that statement basically translates into "let's just take our ancient history's cultural heritage and throw it out the window".
Maybe you fear that by "opening wounds that have long closed" will instigate an anti-Christian wave against the Armenian Church. But if we want to value our homeland, we need to know who we are from the beginning of times, not from 301 AD onward. As long as this subject is confined in between intellectuals, scholars and educated religious figures, I do not see any danger. Although the neo-pagans in Armenia cannot be trusted.
This subject has to be approached constructively, and it is time the Armenian Church lends a helping hand to our scholars in the research of pre-Christian Armenian history. What I mean by that is that the underground of certain Armenian churches need to be examined, for they contain remnants of pagan temples.
Also, whether you like it or not, the destruction of pagan sites and literature has only made the job of falsification of Armenian History much easier to the Richard Hovhannissian gang and other historians. Almost everything that we know of about pre-Christian Armenia come from a wide range of non-Armenian sources. So please keep that in mind as well.
Arevordi, no hard feelings if we have different ideas regarding religion. I am like you, I just adopted the beliefs which made the most sense to me after much deep reflection and thinking. I could be right, and I could very well be wrong - I'm doing my best to be completely objective. I don't see it as arrogance, I see it as taking the cold/calculated/reasoned method of analysis we always talk about here and applying it to religion. And for what it's worth, personally I am a very difficult person to be friends with because I am stubborn and opinionated -- the few non-blood related people that I choose to keep as close friends with are all very religious, so away from the keyboard we'd probably be good friends. The only time I reject people based on Christianity is when someone insists on pushing their sect on to me (usually Born-Again cultists).
DeleteI want to clarify that I believe the idea of a creator (aka God) is a self-evident fact. I agree with your sentiments that the physical universe is so vast and grand, and biological life as we know it is so complex and deliberate, that it is impossible to not have had a creator. Something cannot come from nothing. In fact I never claimed that I was an atheist: my view on God is what would best be described as deism: the fact that a creator must exist is proven through deductive logic, but beyond that there is not enough evidence to draw any further conclusions about this creator. When I say I don't believe in the "myths," I am referring to illogical or impossible claims asserted by Christianity and other religions (virgin birth, resurrections, people living for centuries, turning water into wine, commanding the seas to part, etc.). Those claims require faith to be believed, and I am not willing to pretend I have faith in things I cannot prove at this point. For this same reason, I don't believe the myths of Muslims, Jews, Buddhists, New Age crystal healers, silly ancient alien people, psychic mediums, or various other cults or scams. And like I've said before, I don't think God usually interferes in our day-to-day affairs.
I realize that I was born and raised in Los Angeles, so Anglo-American-Jewish ideas have always been present and doubtless influenced the developments of my own beliefs, but as you can see from my views on history, politics, and sociology, I have done my own research and drawn my own conclusions. I have adopted and defended positions which make me feel like an outcast in the society I live in, instead of giving in and being just another trendy American idiot echoing things from Reddit, pop culture, and Professor Goldstein. I wouldn't be on this blog if it were otherwise.
And I never stated anywhere that the Nazis were atheists; you've got me mistaken for some Southern Baptist. Hitler was openly Catholic. Nazis had "Gott Mit Uns" as a motto. Nazis rightfully rounded up atheists and other subversive scum and put them in labor camps. The only major political movement which is atheist was Marxism / Bolshevism / Communism, and its successor' modern globalism. And yes, lots of elites are into the occult. In fact lots of wannabe elites also pretend to be into occult things to make themselves feel like part of an exclusive group. I understand that, I just think it's pointless. If it makes a member of the elite feel like they are channeling into some unknown power by chanting to some mythical figure, or by performing blood sacrifices - and we know they do these things - that's their business. I'd simply laugh at their primitive stupidity, and the fact that these "elite" need to delude themselves into believing myths in order to reassure themselves from The Unknown that they fear, like a bunch of frightened Gypsy peasants. These practices (occult or otherwise) are empty things that weak people make themselves believe have an effect in order to ease their own fears, no more effective than a lucky coin. The human mind can fool itself.
I was discussing evolution with a friend (one of those faithful Christians) recently, here is what I argued: First off, only an idiot would believe that something as complex as a single-celled organism, let alone a human, could originate randomly via "primordial ooze." DNA is actually an intelligent, organized, structured coding language in physical manifestation. Languages only occur by design, never by randomness; therefore DNA was invented and everything written in DNA (all biological life) has a creator. In fact to deny the truth of the previous few sentences would require so much faith in the impossible as to qualify "life started randomly from primordial ooze" as a religious sentiment.
DeleteSo evolution does not give insight to how and for what reason life started . . . But on the one hand, the evidence those indicate that humans are related to other animals, especially mammals and particularly great apes, based on anatomy and biology. Take one look at skeleton structures, or vestigial body structures (like the tail bone), or similarity in DNA, or similar but less developed brains in animals and humans, or similar stages of development for human and animal embryos and fetuses and it becomes self-evident. This relationship raises the question did they evolve from the same earlier, more primitive forms as evolution claims, or did God just use the same template in creating things as theists claim? . . . But on the other hand, humans are so terribly unfit for survival in nature (we need clothes to not freeze to death, we need tools to hunt and defend ourselves from predators, a good majority of the planet is naturally inhospitable for human habitation, etc.) that it would be illogical to argue that humans came about through evolution and natural selection alone in the first place . . . But on the other hand, if God made humans, was this really the best design? Can we really say humans were made "in our (the Gods) image"? Ask anyone with a shoulder, lower back, or knee injury . . . But on the other hand, humans are so clearly separate from other animals . . . but then what about extinct hominids like Homo Erectus and Neanderthals? And where do races fit in all of this: Japanese, Somalis, Navaho, and Armenians are almost subspecies.
As we can see, the topic is very complex on a technical level alone. But politics and religion make an honest discussion nearly impossible. No true believer (in religion or in atheism) can possibly dig the objective truth out of these facts. So I just accept the provable facts, reject the impossible, and leave the uncertain as open to debate pending further evidence.
Anyway, this is really the kind of discussion I enjoy having very much because it is a learning experience for me. But unfortunately it is the kind of thing I prefer discussing with good friends in person, in the comfort of home, and possibly with a drink or two. Having the discussion via written text always leads to misunderstandings. That and also we are going way off-topic.
PS Happy Easter to all :)
PS Arevordi, as someone interested in Armenian history, thanks for posting those videos. I didn't know Aravot Luso and the others were based on pagan / Zoroastrian chants. Very interesting!
PS @Vahram "I beg to say that we could have stayed Zorastrian and we would still be different and unique and Armenian." --- bro that would have resulted in Armenians being as stateless and irrelevant as the remaining Persian Zoroastrians, Baha'is, and Yezidis - if not eventual Islamization. At best, Armenians would have been a stateless tribe of one or two hundred-thousand people. No thank you.
PS Arevordi, I've always wanted to know, what is the story of the sects which existed and were destroyed in Armenia, like Paulicans and Tondrakians, and how were they related to each other?
@Christ was "judeofied" through the efforts of Emperor Constantine the Great who's intent was political, to unite the empire's large Pagan and Jewish communities under one spiritual/ideological belief system
DeletePoor Constantine, he failed big time! Why then would the Jews consider that:
"The Council of Nicea in 325 CE marked a bad day for the Jews under Roman rule. Constantine, emperor and honorary bishop (though there's some disagreement as to whether he ever actually became a Christian), declared Christianity to be the official religion of Rome. He viewed the Jews as the false Israel which had refused to accept Jesus as the Savior. Laws were made against them."
And that "the beginnings of official Christian persecution of Jews can be traced to this time."?
What was really the Emperor thinking about the Jews? Leaving aside the fact that he did NOT declared Christianity "the official religion of Rome" (as it happened in Armenia twelve years prior to the Edict of Milan).
Eusebius, Life of Constantine Vol. III Ch. XVIII Life of Constantine (Book III): Constantine's Letter to the Churches respecting the Council at Nicæa.:
"... it appeared an unworthy thing that in the celebration of this most holy feast (Pascha) we should follow the practice of the Jews, who have impiously defiled their hands with enormous sin, and are, therefore, deservedly afflicted with blindness of soul ... Let us then have nothing in common with the detestable Jewish crowd; for we have received from our Saviour a different way."
The Epistle of the Emperor Constantine, concerning the matters transacted at the Council, addressed to those Bishops who were not present:
"It was, in the first place, declared improper to follow the custom of the Jews in the celebration of this holy festival, because, their hands having been stained with crime, the minds of these wretched men are necessarily blinded. ... Let us, then, have nothing in common with the Jews, who are our adversaries. ... Let us ... studiously avoiding all contact with that evil way. ... For how can they entertain right views on any point who, after having compassed the death of the Lord, being out of their minds, are guided not by sound reason, but by an unrestrained passion, wherever their innate madness carries them. ... lest your pure minds should appear to share in the customs of a people so utterly depraved. ... Therefore, this irregularity must be corrected, in order that we may no more have any thing in common with those parricides and the murderers of our Lord. ... no single point in common with the perjury of the Jews."
It remains a puzzle for me why Armenia adamantly claims Apostolic origins and was finally converted to Christianity by a Parthian, at a time when Christians were persecuted everywhere, by the Romans, Jews, Persians and Armenians themselves (you would not think that it was imposed by Diocletian!). And why it is considered that: "Many of the pre-Christian (traditional Indo-European) festivals and celebrations such as Tyarndarach (Trndez, associated with fire worship) and Vartavar (Vadarvar, associated with water worship), that dated back thousands of years, were preserved and continued in the form of Christian celebrations and chants", if the belief system that had sustained Armenia for thousands of years was so utterly and ruthlessly destroyed by Christian zealots?
I would not presume to disparage the character of the Armenian people with the liberty you have as an Armenian.
@It is a major problem that the Christian Church holds the Bible, including the Old Testament, as a "holy book" and as the infallible word of God
DeleteThe major problem is the imprecision of the term Bible.
"Bible (n.)
early 14c., from Anglo-Latin biblia, Old French bible (13c.) "the Bible," also any large book generally, from Medieval and Late Latin biblia "the Bible" (neuter plural interpreted as feminine singular), from phrase biblia sacra "holy books," a translation of Greek ta biblia to hagia "the holy books." The Latin word is from Greek biblion "paper, scroll," the ordinary word for "book," originally a diminutive of byblos "Egyptian papyrus."
The Christian scripture was referred to in Greek as Ta Biblia as early as c. 223. Bible replaced Old English biblioðece as the ordinary word for "the Scriptures."
So, there is not 'the' Bible,'holy book', but many books, the 'Scriptures'.
The question is why the Christians kept the books of the "Old Testament" if the "New Testament" supersedes the Old one? Mostly because they 'testify' about Christ;
"If I bear witness of myself, my witness is not true. There is another that beareth witness of me; and I know that the witness which he witnesseth of me is true.... Search the scriptures; for in them ye think ye have eternal life: and they are they which testify of me" (John 5:31-39)
"Then he said unto them, O fools, and slow of heart to believe all that the prophets have spoken: Ought not Christ to have suffered these things, and to enter into his glory? And beginning at Moses and all the prophets, he expounded unto them in all the scriptures the things concerning himself" (Luke 24:25-27).
Keep in mind that what goes generally under the name of 'Bible' in common parlance, is NOT the 'Scriptures' used in the Orthodox Church. The Bible is purported to be the translation from the 'Hebrew Tanakh, the so-called Masoretic text. The Orthodox use the Greek text of the Septuagint (translated in all Oriental Churches), which contains many 'books' excluded from the 'Hebrew' ones.
Christians could not throw away the the Book of Psalms, because David was a Prophet too. He talks about the atheists, the Trotskysts avant la lettre::
"The fool has said in his heart, There is no God. They have corrupted [themselves], and become abominable in their devices; there is none that does goodness, there is not even so much as one."
Tribal God vs universal God . There cannot be a universal God, when there is a diversity world. I tend to tilt toward a tribal God. That is where the essence of Jewish power lies. We see the maximum representative of the universal God (Christian) washing the feet of dirty people, negros and others, and kissing their feet. Jesus did not kiss the feet of the mob, but that of his Apostles. Judaism, reigns supreme through the power and establishment of the international chosen race. A power so powerful since Roman times. The church of Hayastan is in fact a tribal church. It is the identity of the Hye race. I don't think that the large majority of church goers have the figure of Jesus a the pivot of their beliefs as the image, vision of the tribe as the identity centre or focus. Monotheism is a form of worship, it superseded the pagan sanctuary of Gods, thirteen Gods ,like in Greek mythology, and other recondite and long ceased to exist religions. As a student of Greek mythology, one can not fail but become identified with it, a belief system imbued with the belief in the pantheon of pagan gods becomes a source of spiritual inspiration and life experience. Is Christianity fading? Is Islam growing? The centre of Christianity was the known world, the militancy, fanaticism, and evangelizing thrust, the crusaders. The power of the known world in which Christianity flourished has diminished, demographically shrinking , and besieged by other large powers. It's last gasp of breath is to try and spread as a maximalist universal religion, but it is a futile exercise since the centre of its gravity is fast losing ground. Religions supersede one another , in the universe life span, centuries are like days or months in a single human's life span. Who knows what will Christianity be superseded by . A change of human material, a change of biological mutations will also bring forth a change of beliefs. Everything changes, except the chosen, tribal tightly knit clan of the Israelites and their Jehovah. Whilst the whole universe grapples with the history of past beliefs systems, the Judaic pyramid stays unmoved by life's avatar. A dying civilization dies with its gods, deities, saints and beliefs.
DeleteRazmik, we agree fully. In fact I never stated that Armenian history from before the conversion to Christianity should be suppressed. I fully support studying every aspect of our pagan, pre-Christian culture and history. The chants, the beliefs, the texts, the rituals, the temple designs and architecture, the pantheon of Gods, similarities to other pagan cultures, the influences on Christianity, etc. I don't want any of it thrown out. I want it published in scholarly volumes, I want the artifacts cleaned, preserved, and exhibited in national museums. And yes, many churches are built on the ruins of pagan temples (fanaticism at its finest) and these need to be excavated. In fact, let me one-up you: Armenian history from pre-pagan and pre-civilization times needs to be studied and learned, because Armenia has been the cradle of the human species from the beginning of time.
DeleteThe problem is that most people are not capable of having this discussion rationally, and don't have the capacity and cannot enter into this discussion without turning anti-Christian. You know that this observation is true. Take one look at any Armenian discussion of geopolitics and you'll know what I mean; instead of a rational "how does closer relations with Russia benefit Armenian interests, compared to the west," the discussion always degenerates into hysterical peasants screaming "fucking Russians gave away western Armenia, imposed communism, and then nuked Gyumri in 1988 to boot" - and of course the other side (the west) conveniently keeps all of these anti-Russian ideas alive in the Armenian mindset in order to make use of them when the time is right. It doesn't matter if the anti-Russian statements are true, partially true, or outright lies and presented way out of context, as long as some group has an anti-Russia agenda to pursue in Armenia, the ideas will stick around. Similar to the anti-Russia example I just gave, from my experience it is the atheist, ultraliberal types that use the "Christianity was imposed on Armenia by sword and fire" argument because they want to attack the national church. Ultimately it ends up being an attack on the Armenian nation. Whatever their intention, they end up subverting Armenia.
I don't think ANY attempt at examining past Christian wrongdoings ever leads to anything good. No need to rock the boat. I feel like many of the people who ushered in the French and Russian revolutions probably only had good intentions, but their actions undermined national institutions, which quickly escalated and collapsed the state. There is no other way to look at this, all national identities are constructed (or edited) to a certain degree. There is absolutely nothing good that can come from highlighting Christian destruction of paganism 1700 years ago. If the stories or myths are working to keep the people happy and docile today, let it be. Let's learn once from the Jews, or even the Turks, and not undermine one of the foundational events of modern Armenian identity for the sake of making a few "intellectuals" happy. The masses will only interpret it in the most destructive way. This is why no other nation in history engages in such pathological self-criticism, except under circumstances where that nation is already in decline (see Europe today).
Ps 100% agree on neopagans. Totally untrustworthy. The age of paganism is over, it cannot be recreated.
I disagree about linking the destruction of temples to Hovannisian. Hovannisian is a criminal spy. Him, nina garsoian, ronald g. sunni, and the other whores are paid to spread lies about Armenia, totally irrelevant to history and religion. They appeal to malcontents and self-hating Armenians. Let's not use these political hacks as an excuse to unnecessarily open old wounds.
ps I hope the irony of the least religious person defending the Church's past wrongdoings are not lost on anyone. This is pragmatism in politics in action.
@RomAn re: the Bible
DeleteThe history of the heavily edited and repeatedly translated Bible is interesting on its own, but at the end of the day Christians bow to the Old Testament and accept everything it says (ie chosen people, calls for genocide) as having been the true words of God, albeit with some sections overturned by the New Testament. My view is "to hell with the kikes and their holy books and history." Armenians shouldn't need them, their values, their heroes, or the claims regarding Mt. Ararat and decent through Abraham in order to valid our existence.
Possibly the greatest weapon / scam of the Jew was to insert the idea that they were "god's chosen people" as a foundation of Europe's great religion. I'm not trying to offend anyone here, but Christianity works only when targeted at low IQ, slave or working class peasants who can't or don't actually read and comprehend the Bible. People who listen to their preachers interpretations, and are too fearful and/or too dumb to question the myths. People who are desperate and need some hope to justify their lives spent at the bottom class of a great empire. That's what Christianity was designed for in the first place. Anyone reading the Bible from an intellectual, rational standpoint has to start jumping mental hoops in order to twist and fit the concocted story of the Bible to some plausible, working theory.
I'm not trying to insult anybody. As far as I am concerned, religions are relics of ancient times, when humans invented stories that mixed personifications of observable natural phenomena with stereotypes of how a powerful ruler (Yahweh) would behave in order to try and explain things they feared and did not understand in the dark ages. The development of religion is fascinating from an anthropological point of view. But all of it is ancient history. Keep it around because otherwise the peasants will just replace your religion with a foreign religion.
Ps if, like me, you reject the Bible as being nothing more than a book of myths from that era - with as much authority as Brothers Grimm fairytale - then it becomes easier to view Christianity in an objective light.
Ps I always assumed that Armenian Church leaders parted from the mainstream church for political reasons, in order to limit Roman / Byzantine influence in Armenia. It was a manifestation of the Armenians' innate survival instinct. Armenians are like that, we have to do things our own separate way: independent kingdoms, independent script (letters), independent Church, our own quarter of the Old City in Jerusalem, etc. If we did not have this trait, we would have been absorbed by our neighboring strong, and much larger, civilizations like Persia or Greece. That's just my theory though.
@Who knows what will Christianity be superseded by
DeleteBe careful what you wish for. We have been warned repeatedly (not that anyone heeded the warnings). It is the Antichrist, the Messiah of the Jews, the Mahdi of the Mahomentans. Fortunately it won't last long.
"Now we beseech you, brethren, by the coming of our Lord Jesus Christ, and by our gathering together unto him, 2 That ye be not soon shaken in mind, or be troubled, neither by spirit, nor by word, nor by letter as from us, as that the day of Christ is at hand. 3 Let no man deceive you by any means: for that day shall not come, except there come a falling away first, and that man of sin be revealed, the son of perdition; 4 Who opposeth and exalteth himself above all that is called God, or that is worshipped; so that he as God sitteth in the temple of God, shewing himself that he is God. 5 Remember ye not, that, when I was yet with you, I told you these things? "6 And now ye know what withholdeth that he might be revealed in his time. 7 For the mystery of iniquity doth already work: only he who now letteth will let, until he be taken out of the way. 8 And then shall that Wicked be revealed, whom the Lord shall consume with the spirit of his mouth, and shall destroy with the brightness of his coming: 9 Even him, whose coming is after the working of Satan with all power and signs and lying wonders, 10 And with all deceivableness of unrighteousness in them that perish; because they received not the love of the truth, that they might be saved. 11 And for this cause God shall send them strong delusion, that they should believe a lie: 12 That they all might be damned who believed not the truth, but had pleasure in unrighteousness. 13 But we are bound to give thanks always to God for you, brethren beloved of the Lord, because God hath from the beginning chosen you to salvation through sanctification of the Spirit and belief of the truth: 14 Whereunto he called you by our gospel, to the obtaining of the glory of our Lord Jesus Christ. 15 Therefore, brethren, stand fast, and hold the traditions which ye have been taught, whether by word, or our epistle. 16 Now our Lord Jesus Christ himself, and God, even our Father, which hath loved us, and hath given us everlasting consolation and good hope through grace, 17 Comfort your hearts, and stablish you in every good word and work" (2 Thess, 2, 1-17)
Be sure that all the neo-pagans would join his cohorts.
Brother I agree with you on everything you have said, except on thing. The fact that that the burning of our pagan texts is old history. I beg to differ on this point.
DeleteWe have lost our history, in fact the world calls as Armenian because of Assyrian text, there are no Armenian text. We should be known as Hye, the people of Hyek, who the hell are Armenians? Armenians were the people of the Army according to the Assyrians, we were known for being warriors!
The oldest wine making, the oldest shoe, the oldest metal works, better than Stoneheng is Karhoonj. Yet we are only now discovering these things, from bits of stone left behind. We fucked up and those deeds from 1700 years ago are still affecting our people today.
Yes we do need religion as we can see the affects on people without it. This does not include people of intellect who are wise enough to tell the difference between fairy tails and reality. But we did not have to burn our text, we committed a crime 1700 years ago and in my view the affects are still with us to this day.
Sarkis,
DeleteYou remind me of my younger self sometimes. Even today, I can also be overly rational - sometimes to my detriment. Life however has taught me to always reserve some room in my heart for the mysteries. Just keep reminding yourself that there are things in life we (including our finest scientists) are incapable of rationalizing or explaining. I suggest you look at similarities between animal species in the same way as you look at similarities between cars, ships and airplanes. When engineers and architects design things they factor in circumstances of the natural world. Animals need a certain type of skeleton to function properly on earth. Similarities are therefore a result of intelligent design and bioengineering. This is why I have more respect for "Ancient Alien Astronauts" theorists than Darwinists. The ones that wear tinfoil hats actually make more sense when it comes to explaining how life started on earth. In fact, it takes a lot more faith to believe in Darwinian evolution. And if you are indeed a deist as you claim to be, then you are half way there. I just hope you won't turn into a born again someday :) Anyway, your last comment to Razmik was a gem. You are intellectually very honest.
--- "I just hope you won't turn into a born again someday"
Delete- I'd rather convert to Judaism :)
Romanian Anonymous,
DeletePlease realize that Emperor Constantine and his church had problems with Jews that 'resisted' the new religion in the empire and not the ones that accepted the Judaeofied form of Christianity and assimilated into Roman society. Armenian Church is considered "apostolic" simply because Christ's apostles Bartholomew and Thaddeus proselytized in Armenia and were martyred in Armenia. Long before Gregory the Illuminator converted the Armenian king to Christianity in 301 AD, Armenia had communities of Christians, as well as a bishop. But for some reason the Greek church has a problem with this aspect of our history. Moreover, there was a lot of popular resistance to Armenia's conversion to Christianity in the early years, this forced the early church fathers to adopt some of the more popular zoroastrian/pagan rites into Armenian Christianity. It was meant to make the transition from old to new easier. Finally, there is 'nothing' in the Jewish Torah and Tanakh foretells Christ. Everything our clergy point to in this regard are either wishful thinking, selective reasoning, a result of mistranslated Hebrew texts or contrived attempts to fuse the two traditions. The Septuagint was rejected by conservative/traditionalist Jews because they contained pagan corruptions. The Septuagint is clearly a by-product of Hellenized Jews. Interestingly, Christ is said to have quoted only from these pagan corrupted texts. The Septuagint cannot be considered Jewish because Jews themselves rejected it thousands of years ago. Let's please be fair and admit that they should know their religion better than us goyim. That said, I would be among the first to admit that Jews have had some really great prophets. Also, we could very well have incorporated the psalms, which are gems in my opinion, into our faith (after all, ancient Hebrews had a habit of incorporating other people's traditions)... but we didn't have to adopt the whole Jewish package.
Anonymous,
DeleteDiversity in the universe has no correlations to diversity in gods. You can have one source of creation but multiple sources of power. Perhaps you didn't notice but 99.999% of peoples with "tribal gods" have gone extinct, along with their gods. Jews are perhaps the only ones left with a tribal god. Is it this tribal god of theirs that preserved them, or something else? Their religion is only a portion of their success, in my opinion. The secret to their success is their genes (breeding), their ethnocentric religion, historical circumstances of the past two thousand years and perhaps their manifest destiny (they exist for a purpose). That said, if the Jewish tribal god yahweh is indeed the devil, as many people have theorized for thousands of years, then it should be expected that Jews would be more prolific in this world. Through the story of Christ's temptation in the desert, the Christian Gospel tells us that the material world is throne of satan. Satan offered to give Christ all the kingdoms of the world. Satan could only offer to give what was indeed his. This theosophy has its roots in Zoroastrianism. Zoroastrians believed that the devil dwelt on earth and in material possessions. They believed that there is death, illness and decay on earth because of the devil. They believed that as soon as the soul leaves the body, the material body becomes the property of the devil. This is essentially why they burned their dead. So, if you are speaking of the material world, you are speaking of the devil. Jews therefore are powerful on earth because they are of this world. I don't think Armenians need a tribal god (most of whom are most probably demons). Our church is fully sufficient for the task at hand. We as a people simply need to empower it instead of always criticizing it. Everything you like and dislike about Armenia is a reflection of our people's character. As I said before, accept what fate has dealt you and work with it.
We all need to recognize that the universe is a stage where forces of light and forces of darkness are in constant battle. The universe is a battlefield where angles and demons wage war against each other. The universe is a realm where positive and negative energies play against each other. The world is a mix of these two diametrically opposed beings, forces and energies. This is why the world can be a place of great beauty and harmony but also a place of utter ugliness and disorder. Humans with loving hearts are naturally drawn towards positive and constructive forces that put emphasis on the spirit world. Humans with hateful hearts are instinctually drawn towards negative and destructive forces that puts emphasis on the material world. Anything that is good is anything that is constructive. Anything that is evil is anything that is destructive. Both good and evil exists in our universe and they are in constant competition - and humanity plays a pivotal role in deciding who wins. Zoroaster and Christ taught us that if we wanted for good to reign in this world, we had to be pure in our thoughts, in our deeds and in our words. One quick look at ourselves and the world around us is enough to show us why evil reigns in the world.
DeleteArevordi, your comment starting with "We all need to recognize that the universe is a stage . . . " sounds like Zoroastrianism in a nutshell, from what I know of Zoroastrianism.
DeleteArevordi,
DeleteIt seems to me that actually your problem is with the Greeks. I shouldn't wonder, Armenians always had.
There is really a 'judeofied' Church,the Latin and its offspring the Protestant. These are the ones who adopted the 'Tanakh', disfigured the Faith to align it with Judaism, not the 'Constantinian', actually the Church of the Seven Ecumenical Councils, the Orthodox one. I know that Armenians have problems with that.
"Interestingly, Christ is said to have quoted only from these pagan corrupted texts". It is not only said, it was verified thousand times, texts in hand. Does not seem to you that the quotation by the Christ confer the real authority to the Septuagint? The Dead Sea Scrolls offer a text which align with the Septuagint and not to the Masoretic which dates from the 10th century AD! So the "Hebrew" is the corrupt one! And it is corrupt precisely that the Rabbis suppressed or twisted all the passages which prophesy about Christ. Indeed the Septuagint is not "Jewish".
Happy Easter to all,
DeleteWhat a great topic of discussion i have been meaning to ask for a while what everyone's thoughts are on this matter, i can see and understand where everyone is coming from but i honestly think we as a people and as a nation need to realize and truly appreciate our own history even if its ugly.
Firstly to arevordi have you heard of vahan setyan and what do you make of his work?
Secondly i do agree with with everyone that our church is special and it has a major positive role to play in our nation and has been our nation when we have been stateless for centuries, but i do also realize and understand allot of damage was done in those early years that we owe it to our ancestors to better understand then and in turn better understand ourselves, i was lost for many years trying to make sense of everything and kept pushing my self away from the Armenian church but in recent years i have made my way back and things do make more sense now don't get me wrong i dont believe in myths and stories rather im selective with i want to follow what makes our church different from others is that it has kept some forms of our older traditions and beliefs that i dont feel when i enter other churches which feels alien to me, what i want to see is hopefully one day our church opens up a bit and we as a people move to better understand our own past and realize that we are not just Christians and everything didnt start in 301AD we need to disconnect ourselves from anything jewish we shouldn't bow to anyone only to our own ancestors.
Romanian Anonymous,
DeleteWe have talked about this before: Armenia ceased to exist in the middle of the 11th century because of Byzantine-Greek treachery. The Byzantine-Greek problem with us was our refusal to bow down to them. As you may have noticed, we Armenians are fanatically independent minded and very individualistic. The more Byzantine-Greeks pushed to get us to accept their dogma, the more we pushed back. After centuries of conspiring with Muslim Persians and Seljuk Turks against Armenians, Byzantine-Greeks finally managed to displace large numbers of Armenians, subdue the Armenian kingdom in 1045 AD and murder the last Armenian king. It was a fall Armenia would not recover from until the 20th century. While I blame Greeks, I am honest enough to also blame Armenians. I am ready to admit that Greek-Byzantines were the dominant civilization in Asia Minor. After all, they had come to represent the Eastern Roman Empire. So, I am being pragmatic and intellectually honest by saying that perhaps Armenians should have put aside their arrogance and stubbornness, found common language with Byzantine-Greeks and joined the Greek Orthodox church. Serbians, Bulgarians, Georgians and Russians did; why couldn't Armenians? I don't think joining the Greek church would have made us lesser Armenians. But, the reality of the matter is that Byzantines were the ones directly responsible for destroying the last Armenian kingdom in the Armenian Highlands, scattering Armenians far-and-wide and paving the way for the eventual creation of a Turkish state... which then went on to destroy the Byzantine Empire.
Regarding the Septuagint: Let's please stop playing word games. No matter how you look at it, the Septuagint is the by-product of Hellenizization. When you translate a large volume of work into another language, it is inevitable that a lot of things will get lost and/or altered in translation. It is also inevitable that the culture of the language it is being translated into (in this case pagan) will also eventually seep into the work. Septuagint is the GREEK translation of ancient Hebrew texts. This is essentially why Jews rejected it two thousand years ago and continue to do so today. The fact that Christ only spoke Aramaic and quoted only from the Septuagint was enough reason for conservative/traditional Jews to conspire against him. The Jewish elite at the time saw Christ corrupting Jewish society. My point is this: Let's stop nitpicking texts and instead look at the broader picture. Christ was not of the Jews. Christ was not the Jewish messiah. Everything about Christ, from his lifestyle to his mysteries, are replete with Zoroastrianism. We have been trying to hammer a square peg into a round hole for two thousand years - because Hellenized Jews and later Emperor Constantine wanted to unite the Roman Empire's pagan and Jewish traditions.
Bk, yes, this has indeed been a very good conversation. I also think this conversation needs to happen more often in Armenian society. The only thing I know about Vahan Setyan is that he is an Armenocentric historian. I have not read any of his works.
DeleteArevordi,
DeleteIndeed we play word games. I do not feel that there is any substantial difference. That Christ was not the Messiah expected by the Jews(the earthly king who would smite the goys and give the Judean tribe the dominion over the whole world forever) is what the Church always said. He is the second person of the Trinity, the Son of the Heavenly Father, the Logos, the Wisdom, who came in the flesh to reconcile the fallen humanity with God.
If the Jews felt that He was 'conspiring' against their law was not because he was quoting from the corrupted by the 'pagans' Septuagint, but because he told them directly so:
"He answered and said unto them, Well hath Esaias prophesied of you hypocrites, as it is written, This people honoureth me with their lips, but their heart is far from me. 7 Howbeit in vain do they worship me, teaching for doctrines the commandments of men. 8 For laying aside the commandment of God, ye hold the tradition of men, as the washing of pots and cups: and many other such like things ye do. 9 And he said unto them, Full well ye reject the commandment of God, that ye may keep your own tradition."
This is not the only instance when Jesus castigates, rebuke and condemn the Jews. And He does that on his own authority:
"All things have been handed over to me by my Father, and no one knows the Son except the Father, and no one knows the Father except the Son and anyone to whom the Son chooses to reveal him".
"All authority is given unto me in heaven and in earth. 19 Go ye therefore, and teach all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father, and of the Son, and of the Holy Ghost: 20 Teaching them to observe all things whatsoever I have commanded you: and, lo, I am with you always, even unto the end of the world. Amen."
What regards the relations Christianity with Zoroastrim, everybody agrees that the Magi were Zoroastrain priests (some say that they were from Armenia!). Why then it is said that "there came wise men from the east to Jerusalem, 2 Saying, Where is he that is born King of the Jews? for we have seen his star in the east, and are come to worship him"?
Another tricky word is "paganism". In its proper sense it meant following the ways of the pagani. Paganus always meant: 'country dweller', 'villager'; by extension, 'rustic', 'unlearned', illiterate','unsophisticated'. It can hardly be applied to 'Hellenism', the product of an urban, polite, educated,highly literate, sophisticated society.
Byzantine Greek chauvinism has also been a problem for Bulgarians, hence it took two hundred plus years for them to accept Orthodox Christianity, and even then Knyaz Boris had to play off Rome and Constantinople against each other just to secure autocephaly for the Bulgarian Church. Russian and Serbian conversion to Orthodox Christianity happened with Byzantine assistance, hence their connection to the Byzantine Empire (Stefan Dusan at one point crowned himself Emperor of the Serbs and Greeks). Even during the 19th century Bulgarians had issues with being placed under the Greek Ecumenical Patriarchate (they nearly became Greek Catholics just to avoid being subordinated to the Greek Church before the Bulgarian Exarchate was established in 1870). The thing is, the only thing Armenians and Bulgarians had in common was their antipathy towards the Byzantine Empire in the medieval era. (The First Bulgarian Empire was actually destroyed as a result of Svyatoslav's invasion of the Balkans with his goal of conquering Constantinople, and the Byzantine conquest of Bulgaria only happened with defeating Kievan Rus's invasion. You could easily say that Bulgaria's integration to the Byzantine world was done when the Bulgarians were 'kicking and screaming'. It might have been the same problem with Armenia, so I did consider the foundation of the "Armenian Kingdom of Cilicia" as akin to the establishment of the "Second Bulgarian Empire", but the 2nd Empire was a shadow of its former self.
DeleteWith regards to Western Christianity, I've noticed so far that only the Orthodox Church doesn't make major changes to their doctrine. Heck, Western Christianity ponders so much, they even made this disgusting shit right here:
http://thevoiceofthepropheticreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2015/09/tumblr_nplmg7UVKG1qi713so1_500.jpg
Romanian,
DeleteThe "Church" has always claimed that Christ was the "second person of the Trinity" AND that he was the "Jewish messiah". The Church claims both things about Christ and in doing so the Church reveals an attempt by the early church fathers to fuse the two traditions into one. The your quotes about the Magi (wisemen from the east, etc) is an example of how to play word games. Looking at the bigger picture, this is what we see: MAGI, not wisemen but MAGI (i.e. Zoroastrian priests) from the EAST (Persia or Armenia) came to WORSHIP Christ, while the Jewish king was seeking Christ to KILL him. This is right in the beginning of the Gospels. And at the end of the Gospel, we read about Christ telling the righteous thief, "today you will be with me in PARADISE." When Christ's Jewish followers wrote that Christ was the Jewish messiah, it made sense; because they were doing their best to convince Jewish society that Christ was indeed the savior foretold in the Torah. But what's interesting is this: Why would Christ's JEWISH followers incorporate ZOROASTRIAN elements into their writing about the Jewish messiah? From the writings of Christ's JEWISH followers, we know that Christ's earthly life started with Zoroastrians and ended with Zoroastrianism. In this discussion, everything else - what book Christ quoted from, what Christ told Jews, what miracles Christ performed, etc - is of secondary importance. The biggest problem with mainstream Christianity today is its attempt to present Christ as the Jewish messiah. Christ was NOT the Jewish messiah. I know that deep inside your heart you agree with me on this. SO, let's take this to it's logical conclusion: If Christ wasn't the Jewish messiah, then what good is the "Old Testament" for us? That said, I agree with you that in the Christian Orthodox tradition, Christ's so-called "Jewish roots" is not something that's talked about much. The Orthodox church instead puts emphasis on Christ's divinity and the mysteries associated with him. So, in a literal sense, thank God for Christian Orthodoxy.
Jerriko,
I am always amazed at the level of your knowledge. The "Greek" component of the Eastern Roman Empire and Orthodox Christianity ruined both the empire and the faith. Byzantine-Greeks are the reason why there is major nation in Asia Minor called Turkey. While I see Greeks as close relatives, and still dream to see Armenia and Greece having common borders again, I still have to say that Greeks are (and have always been) a worthless bunch of people, and they have been very destructive towards us Armenians. And it's not all ancient history. Modern Greeks (especially their clergy) still look down at Armenians. We see periodically see their hateful attitude towards us in Jerusalem.
@Arevordi:
DeleteThanks. A while ago I've been given a special book on the Christianization of the Serbs, so that would be something I'll have to read on if I wanted to post anything related to Serbia. Bulgarian history on the other hand, I've read stuff up in books and in online discussions. I wouldn't be surprised if Greeks still hold some bits of Slavophobia towards Macedonians and Bulgarians, so that's another thing that Bulgarians have in common with Armenians (other than the ugly incident in Yerevan where Armenians were chanting 'cigani' towards the Bulgarian national football team).
Disregard what a handful of braindead football fans say or do. There is archeological evidence to suggest that both Serbs and Bulgarians are from the Caucasus region. Historically, Armenians have had very warm relations both nations. When Macedonia proclaimed independence, we all saw how irrationally arrogant and aggressive Greeks could get. The Greek mentality was, "how dare those backwards Slavs adopt the sacred Greek name of Macedonia". Never mind that ancient Macedonians were not ethnic Greeks. We see the Greek church treating Armenians in Jerusalem with disdain. We even see their church leaders looking down at the Russian church. Greek arrogance makes the English, French, Germans and Russians look bashful. Greek ostentatiousness makes Armenians look humble. Greek incompetence in war and politics make Arabs look like a superpower. On a certain level I like Greeks - but I would never place any hope on them for anything. Anyway, I let's not turn this discussion into a Greek-bashing session. Greeks may dislike us, they may look down at us, but we have to bigger than that and recognize that they are not the enemy.
Delete@ Arevordi and Jerriko
DeleteThe only thing I will add on the topic of Greek history is that their mistakes can teach us Armenians a valuable lesson in the dangers of arrogance and chauvinistic nationalism in geopolitics. In their recent history Greeks have freely chosen to think of themselves as "being part of the west" rather than be associated with the lowly east. We can see very clearly now where westernization has led them; and just imagine what Greece will look like in ten years!
Here is a hypothetical: had "evil" Stalin occupied Greece in 1945, Constantinople and Smyrna could have become Greek, Western Armenia could have become Armenian, Cyprus would have been spared Turkish occupation, and Turkey could have been reduced to a rump state around Ankara and Konya with the same clout as Bashkortostan. Think of how much better the world would have been. Instead, Greeks went and joined NATO, and NATO is now the only factor preventing Turkey from collapsing.
What the Greeks and other eastern Europeans do is their business, but we need to learn from their suicidal mistakes.
Ps the anti-Bulgarian chants are news to me. Bulgaria may be a weak and aimless state today, but Armenians and Bulgarians always had good relations. Bulgaria took in tens of thousands of Genocide survivors and was once (along with Romania) home to a very large community of Armenians. Armenians should reserve the racist chants for Turks, Azeris, Jews, and Anglo-American and Euro cucks.
@Sarkis:
DeleteSmyrna could have gone Greek, but Constantinople and the control of the Bosporus was something that Stalin had always wanted, hence we've got the Turkish Straits crisis. Before we could derail this discussion any further, I'd also like to say that alternatively, Smyrna and the areas around Kavala and Dedeagach/Alexandroupolis could have gone to Dmitrov's Bulgarian state.
With that being said, it would be nice for non-Armenians like myself to know more about Zoroastrianism and Mithraism and how it influenced Armenian Christianity, because that kind of Persian culture has been a positive development for Eastern Christianity, where as its Western counterpart had been thoroughly Judaized.
Jerriko,
DeleteFrom music to architecture, from holidays to philosophy, Zoroastrianism (and eastern Mithraism) has had great impact on Armenian Christianity and Christianity in general. To read more about the influences of Zoroastrianism on Christianity, go to my Rediscovering Christianity blog and check out some of the articles featured there.
I just want to add here that some of the well known secret societies in the western world (e.g. Freemasonry, Rosicrucians and the Knights Templars) may actually be the off-shoots of western Mithraism which was initially centered in Rome but later spread westward. Similar to the secret societies in question, Mithraism is also associated with grades of initiations, exclusive membership, ancient rituals, wizardry and the so-called "mysteries". It is thought that no one outside of the inner circle of such secret societies knows what these "mysteries" are. It is also thought that the mysteries in question are ancient knowledge that gives its adherents great powers. It is also said that the rituals and the secret knowledge of these societies are to some extent passed on through bloodlines and that these bloodlines can be traced back thousands of years.
PS: Mithraism is a very ancient cult. No one can pinpoint is beginning, but it is generally accepted that it began being practiced by Indo-Aryan peoples some three to four thousand years ago. The cult was so powerful in its time that it quickly spread throughout the Roman Empire.
Arevordi,
DeleteLet's declare it a draw. I do not agree with you just "deep inside my heart". I believe that the arguments offered fully justify the agreement. Nay, they put it on the most solid base, in both our traditions, even in what regards Zoroastrism. You can't get around the fact that the Magi came to query: "Where is He who has been born King of the Jews? For we saw His star in the east, and have come to worship Him." (Matt 2:1-2). It certainly was not by chance that the Feast of Epiphany "manifestation of God", includes the 'manifestation of God" to the Magi. In parentheses, the Apostle of Armenia Bartholomew is the same as Nathanael, one of the first to declare "you are the Son of God! You are the King of Israel". "King of the Jews" does not mean "Jewish" Messiah, I must insist. The Romans used the title derogatorily, in spite of the Jews, who opposed it vehemently: "(Pilate) saith unto the Jews, Behold, your King! 15 They therefore cried out, Away with [him], away with [him], crucify him! Pilate saith unto them, Shall I crucify your King? The chief priests answered, We have no king but Caesar"). That was the reason of the INRI inscription affixed on Jesus' Cross.
And it is undeniable that there was a huge Zoroastrian influence both on the Greek philosophers and on the belief system of the Second Temple period (therefore on Hellenistic Jews as well) before Christ.
Sarkis86
Delete@Bible,
I guess you live in America. Only there "Christians bow to the Old Testament and accept everything it says". Actually, this is their holy book, the New Testament is for them just an appendage. But Americans are not Christians. They are just Zionists with a smattering of Christian verbiage. From the very first days of what is now America, the puritan colonists considered themselves the New Israel and made the laws of the Old Testament (abolished by the Christ) the fundament of their laws.
Nothing like that happened in the traditional Christian Churches. The books of the Old Testament were not given that status. They have been preserved for historical reasons, because they said things in accord with Christ' teachings and not the other way round. They do not inform the shape of society, of the politeia, which was shaped by the Roman Law, which were made more humane by the Christ's teachings.
Mithraism - Its Armenian Birth and Etymology: https://youtu.be/FCRyHFkrekc
DeleteArmenian Mithraic Temple Found Underneath Echmiadzin Cathedral: https://youtu.be/8pFNZ3ngAyM
Arevordi, I reread your Rediscovering Christianity blog over the past few days. I had read it once before, but these kinds of things require multiple readings to fully comprehend, distill, and internalize. There are many things that could be said, but I will keep it short.
Delete-You wrote that one of the main problems with Christianity today was that Christians, especially Protestants, do not take into consideration the environment in which Christianity was formed. That all of the Pagan influences and cultural, social, and political factors are discarded for a focus on "the scriptures". You make an excellent point. Unfortunately I think a good majority of Christians would consider you a heretic or neo-Pagan because of your views. In a less liberal age, your writings would have put you in serious danger . . . Also
-Interesting side note: I noticed, the Zoroastrian name for the chief god is Ahura Mazda. "Ahura" means Lord, and "Mazda" means Wisdom, and so Ahura Mazda translates to Lord of Wisdom. Of course the Armenian word for Wisdom is "Imasd" (իմաստ or իմաստութիւն). When I made that connection, I immediately recalled the first phrase that St. Mashdots is said to have written after he invented the Armenian alphabet in 405 quoting the Old Testament: Ճանաչել զիմաստութիւն եւ զխրատ, իմանալ զբանս հանճարոյ: (To know wisdom and instruction; to perceive the words of understanding).
I think that from a spiritual point of view, you are essentially "deconstructing" Christianity, taking apart the religion that was pieced together by the Romans 1700 years ago and highlighting the very man-made nature of the Bible and many other aspects of Christian belief. But at the same time, you are not throwing away Jesus; instead you accept him as a holy entity following in the tradition of the preceding pagan holy entities and further trying to link Jesus to the ancient religion of Armenia. You are trying to synthesize a new understanding of Christianity; in fact I will wager you've tried in the past to explain your worldview to true believers among the Armenians, and I'll bet many of them rejected you as a heretic. I wonder if you've ever discussed these ideas with Armenian religious authorities, I would be curious what their reaction would be.
@RomAn,
DeleteWhere I live has absolutely no bearing on this discussion and you know that. I stated the undeniable fact that the Bible is the Holy Book of Christianity and that all Christians accept the whole of the Bible - including the Old Testament - as the infallible word of God. This is a straightforward fact. You can't get around this inconvenient fact without lying to yourself. The Christian Bible is composed of the Old and New Testaments together; and both Testaments are included in all Bibles, whether Orthodox, Catholic, or Protestant. Christians bow and kiss the Bible because it is the word of God to them. Many cultures refer to the Bible as literally "The Breath of God". A devout True Believer like yourself quoted the Bible a dozen times in this short discussion to support your ideas, because it is your ultimate source of authority for your religion. The Bible is to Christians what the Koran is to Muslims and what every other holy book is to its own religion. When Christians of any sect get together for "Bible Study" they don't start by reminding themselves that the Old Testament is only for historical purposes, they dive in and get emotional and hysterical in deluding themselves that they are reading the true story of God and his calls for genocide against the Amalekites.
So are you going to claim that if I took a Bible and tore out the Old Testament and set it on fire (which is the only just and proper way in my opinion of dealing with a book of Jewish supremacism), that Christians would NOT be outraged precisely because I destroyed their Holy Book and offended the God they believe in; that Christians would merely be slightly upset because I happened to destroy a copy of some writings that were being "preserved for historical reasons, because they said things in accord with Christ' teachings?" Bullshit! Burning a copy of a mere history book gets you labeled an asshole; burning a copy of the Old Testament gets you condemned to death . . . Fortunately the churches have long since lost their power to burn heretics.
Religions are man-made and inherently flawed, some more than others. There's a good saying that "Religion is regarded by the common people as true, by the wise as false, and by the rulers as useful."
Ultimately we're going to have to agree to disagree. No argument ever been a rational person and a true believer ended with one side giving in. And to be honest I am not interested in converting anyone to my worldviews, I just want to make sure everyone understands what I intended to convey in my statements regarding the Bible. Truth be told, this is one of the reasons I dislike religion, grown men wasting time arguing over Jewish lies from over 2,000 years ago. We face more pressing issues in the modern world.
For those interested in Armenian Mithraism, I suggest you watch this documentary (for non-Armenian speakers, unfortunately I can't find the English version):
DeleteՆԵՄՐՈՒԹ - ԱՐԵՎ-ԱՐՔԱՅԻ ՄԵԾ ՍՐԲԱՎԱՅՐԸ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Af3WCkfyUvk
Sarkis86,
Delete@Where I live has absolutely no bearing on this discussion
I am afraid that it very much does. Otherwise you would not throw back (with some perceptible irritation) at me the views of the Bible Belt, Evangelicals, Dispensationalists, actually of the (pseudo)Christian Zionism that I just criticized. Any correct judgement is dependent on the properly defining the terms (the words). "The Bible" is an ambiguous term which does not cover the full extension of "Holy Scriptures".
I can't say whether these people "bow and kiss the Bible". I do not believe, they would consider that idolatry. What I know is that Christians who glorify the one "Who has shown us the light" (the miracle of the Holy Light at the Holy Sepulcher happens only in the presence of the Orthodox, Armenian and Coptic Patriarchs, and that from the very beginning) indeed bow and kiss the book containing the four Gospels, which is kept on the altar and taken out for reading and worship by the congregation at certain moments of the whole cycle of services (Liturgy, Vespers, Matins). This is the book, BTW, that I quote from, not "the Bible", precisely because it is the ultimate source of authority for our religion which is here under discussion and means to us more than "Bullshit". Believe me,I am grateful that you are not interested in converting anyone to that worldview. There is no need of it anyway, there is already enough of it around us and most people delight in it.
Sarkis, although you lack spirituality (most probably due to life's experiences in LA/USA), you are an extremely intelligent young man. More importantly, you are very perceptive and you have crystal clear vision. As for me, I see the world, and all that is within it, in an unorthodox way (pardon the pun). It's not a contrived/conscious effort by me to be different or to be a "rebel"; it's just my nature because I have always been this way. As a result, although I know a great number of people, I have very few actual friends; although I have been involved in all kinds of organizations, I have abandoned every single one with utter disgust. The few clergy that I have challenged with my take on Christ and Christianity, have laughed at me and called me a wannabe-heretic; although none of them were able to refute even a single one of my propositions. But I have not held a grudge at all because I understand the realities of the world I live in. More importantly, I would never go public or push my personal religious beliefs because doing so would not do anything but undermine our national church, which as I said is our greatest national institution. Also, trying to present Christ from a Zoroastrian perspective, will only destroy the people's faith in Christ and Christianity. That is actually what modern scholarship in the Western world does: They present Christ's pagan characteristics with the intention of convincing apostolic Christians that their faith is false and evil. That is the last thing I want to do. Society is simply not ready for this kind of talk. If we were to try to reformulate the Christian faith, it could fall apart in the process. The masses are simple minded and they have been conditioned a certain way for two thousands years. Any fundamental changes to the religion may actually destroy it. We better leave it as is. Anyway, due to my politics and my beliefs, people tend to either hate me or love me. I'll let you know that most people hate me. But, looking at the world we live in, I take their hate as a badge of honor and a gift from God. I'll leave you with this wonderful Zoroastrian-inspired prayer by one of our greatest Christian saints, Nerses Shnorhali -
DeleteԻմաստութիւն Հօր` Յիսուս, տու՛ր ինձ իմաստութիւն, զբարիս խորհել եւ խօսել եւ գործել առաջի քո` յամենայն ժամ. ի չար խորհրդոց եւ ի բանից եւ ի գործոց փրկեա՛ զիս. եւ ողորմեա՛ քո արարածոց եւ ինձ բազմամեղիս:
The Wisdom of the Father, Jesus, grant me wisdom, that I may always think, speak and do that which is good in your sight. Save me from evil thoughts, words and deeds. And have mercy upon your creatures and upon me, a manifold sinner.
PS: Sarkis, Romanian Anonymous is our brother in Christ. Trust me when I say we need more people like him in this world. Also, "bible studies" are a modern, Anglo-American protestant thing. Orthodox peoples traditionally never held "bible studies" because the particulars of Christ's earthly life was never seen as a thing to dwell on. Christian Orthodoxy placed emphasis on celebrating Christ's mysteries, and Christ's mysteries have NOTHING to do with Jews or their messiah. In the big picture I always talk about: Just like the Russian nation is the last hope for mankind politically, Christian Orthodoxy is our last hope spiritually.
Arevordi, after reading the basic introduction to Zoroastrianism in your Rediscovering Christianity blog, the Zoroastrian roots of Nerses Shnorhali's prayer are hard to miss - a prayer asking for divine help to be "Good in thoughts, words, and actions" which is a key focus of Zoroastrianism.
DeleteThe reaction of the priests that you described were exactly what I expected. Priests are like any other ruling class of men, many of them let their influence, wealth, and prestige get to their heads. But like you, I wouldn't want to lead to crusade (pardon the pun x2) against the Armenian Church. It may be a flawed institution but it works in providing guidance to flawed people. BTW I don't think society will ever be ready for such talk, so it has to be relegated to small pockets of open-minded Armenians having this discussion - which makes me ponder how many thousands of times over the past 1700 years have Armenians repeated the same discussion that we just had right now, only their words were never recorded.
And I agree that RomAn is a brother, I am glad Christianity works for him. I'd be happy if every one of our trendy and "intelligent" atheists and neo-pagans (the people who actually spit on Christianity and pretend they actually worship pagan deities) were replaced by people of RomAn's outlook.
Ps I have Thomas Samuelian's English translation of Speaking with God from the Depths of the Heart: The Armenian Prayer Book of St. Gregory of Narek on my desk. I plan to read it after I finish my current book, Leon Surmelian's English translation of Daredevils of Sassoun.
Regarding our clergy and esoteric knowledge. The following link is to the 1970s British made film about one of the greatest mystics of modern times. It's based on George Gurdjieff's famous book, "meetings with remarkable men". Please watch the segment starting at 35:00 min -
DeleteGurdjieff Meetings With Remarkable Men: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JZuq592q18E
One thousand years ago, Armenian monks in the Bagratid capitol city of Ani were researching the mysteries. Just think about that for a moment: While they were serving the masses the standard knowledge, they were actively searching for the exclusive knowledge. Let me tell you that one thousand years ago our clergy were much more enlightened than they are today.
Great interview about the Armenian Genocide and how it relates to today's geopolitical climate.
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Hv0Bkx3tyzo
Mig 29SMT the first 4 ever build are now in Armenia.
ReplyDeleteRussia Defense Report: The MiGs Return: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TkBo2eC38z0
Getze Hayastan
The new mig 29s are a great boon for the nation. It could be the initial building bloc in which to create a formidable air force. An Air Force capable to blow up all and raze to the ground enemies installation and military assets. We have arrived at a juncture in our parabolic history where margins for error do not exist. With our limited resources we must achieve maximum perfection in performance.
DeleteYes we have arrived at a juncture, but sadly it is not so much our doing as it is greater world geopolitical events that are in our favor. Like the fact that they are Migs, this is done for the Armenian spirit, the Russians have other planes that they could have deployed that would have done the job just fine. But they sent the first 4 Migs of the new variant. These four planes are the only ones built.
DeleteFresh military equipment news from Syria:
ReplyDeleteRussia has deployed ISKANDER missiles in Latakia: http://ic.pics.livejournal.com/bmpd/38024980/2964197/2964197_original.jpg
The newly arrived Mi-28 helicopter gunships are seeing action around Palmyra: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HFoOXbGbkVA#t=12
An Mi-25M helicopter gunship with recently installed President-S anti-MANPADS and MAWS (Missile attack warning system)has just arrived in Latakia: http://i.imgur.com/LGQgJtL.jpg
A Kamaz Vystrel vehicle with IED jamming equipment has been photographed near Palmyra: https://pbs.twimg.com/media/Cepxca0XEAAumPx.jpg:large
Mine-removal Robot vehicles are now being flown to Syria: http://www.servimg.com/view/19436446/11
Syria's Balkanization: Kerry's Plan B Originates in 1982 Israeli Initiative
ReplyDeletehttp://sputniknews.com/politics/20160329/1037161914/syria-balkanization-federalization-planb-israel.html
Russian media is the only honest media.
Something is afoot, the Russian drawdown came to quick for my liking. Then there is the deployment of the first 4 Migs of the new variant to Armenia that is to my liking, now this and it's not to my liking.
ReplyDeleteUS withdrawing families from Turkey.
http://www.zerohedge.com/news/2016-03-29/state-department-and-dod-order-hundreds-military-families-evacuate-turkey
I can smell it, something bigger is happening and I can smell it. I just don't know what it is. I have two choices running in my head, one is a mess in Turkey and the other is using the Turks as another front against Moscow. That means bat down the hatches Armos it's going to get real for us soon if the second is the case.
The bandit state of Judah has also exhorted its Judaic members to avoid or leave turkey. Turkey has it coming. Assad can now take care by its army the reconquest of lost Syrian territory. It is a question mark whether turkey and Saudi will not attempt going alone against Assad to prop up Isil. They are under rating the capabilities of the SAA. Russia will deal in the appropriate manner with the Turks. As for Hayastan this may be the one opportunity to begin the recovery of , at least part of it, of historical Hayastan. The Turks are growing to bellicose and pushing their weight for anyone's liking, even for the Hebrew tribe. They have practically elbowed put the Greeks from the eastern Aegean. The Aegean ocean is now almost a Turkish sea. They have no qualms of roaming the Greek coast up to Cape Sunion and even further west. They are in full control of the invasion traffic of thirldworlders, stragglers, and so called refugees toward Europe, via Greece. The situation in Greece is calamitous. Recently speaking to some elderly Greeks, having to face this unbearable rape and invasion of their land, spoke nostalgically about the days of German troops occupying Greece. Compared to today's occupation, The Greece of the 40' was a party. A far cry from Mussolini's days with his Mare Nostrum dictum. The Italian navy is like a old haggard cat with crippled paws. They are no match for the Turks. Someone must stop the Turks with controlling the Eastern Mediterranean. And that can only be the Russians. Kick out ,lock stock and barrel , the Turks from the Dardanelles straight, invade and take over Constantinople and sink the entire Turkish Black Sea and Mediterranean fleets into the bottom of the ocean. From the East the Turks can meet their nemesis of 1919.
ReplyDeleteTurkey’s Lobbyists Seek U.S. Help By Calling Tiny Armenia A Big Threat
ReplyDeletehttp://www.huffingtonpost.com/entry/turkey-lobbyists-armenia_us_56fd85a6e4b0a06d58054b16
The contact line is experiencing a flare up according to reports. It is reported that Azeries are using air force, tanks and mortars. Two Azeries helicpters have been blown out of the skies and two tanks disabled. Reports that mention of " fierce battles " going on to repules the Azeri incursions. I don't know what to believe and not to believe in regards to these reports. Something must be going on, since Putin has exhorted both sides to cease hostilities immediately, according to press reports. In diplomatic parlance the exhortation is directed to both sides, taking no account as to who the aggressor is. The Azeries have launched the incursions into Artsaj. They are the aggressors. The best way to silence them is by inflicting serious losses, until next time. Azeriers will never acquiesced to the de facto situation on the ground; at least for the next generation. Appealing to international slumber bodies will lead nowhere. In the battlefield arms and weapons do the talking.
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We knew there was ceasefire violations taking place regularly all along Armenia's border with Azerbaijan. We knew Baku was growing increasingly desperate as a result of falling oil prices. We speculated that anti-Russian interests in the region may be seeking to bring problems closer to Russia's borders in the south Caucasus. We therefore had been waiting for this escalation for some time now. For now, don't pay too much attention to news reports coming out from either sides (us and them) because both sides will naturally be engaged in propaganda. That said, if Armenians did shootdown Azeri helicopters and knocked out Azeri tanks, then something very serious is going on. Is this the spring offensive we had been waiting for? We'll have to wait and see where all this goes. But if our side is seen as indecisive or timid, the situation may get worst. We also need to watch Moscow's reaction to all this.
DeleteFrom Sputnik Armenia -
Ստեփանակերտում տիրող իրավիճակը հակամարտության սրացումից հետո: http://sputnik.co.am/video/20160402/2692407.html
Ղարաբաղի պաշտպանության նախարարությունը տեսանյութ է հրապարակել: http://sputnik.co.am/video/20160402/2700473.html
ՀԱՊԿ–ն կարձագանքի, եթե Հայաստանը դիմի: http://sputnik.co.am/armenia/20160402/2698538.html
Կամավորների հավաք Ստեփանակերտում: http://sputnik.co.am/photo/20160402/2696171.html
In Armenia now, we've lost 18 people already (confirmed by the president). Estimates of Azeri losses up to 200. Basically a full-scale war with all types of weaponry.
DeleteԱյս պահի դրությամբ 18 զոհ ունենք և մոտ 35 վիրավոր. Սերժ Սարգսյան: http://www.tert.am/am/news/2016/04/02/president/1982013
This is it guys check out the videos and pics from Razminfo.
DeleteRazminfo (website):
https://www.facebook.com/razm.info/
Razminfo (pictures):
https://www.facebook.com/razm.info/photos_stream?ref=page_internal
Official Armenia said that they have launched a counter attack!
Delete"Active combat is currently under way," Hovhannisyan said. "The Armenian Army has launched a counter-attack. There are victims on both sides but the opposing side has sustained huge losses in manpower and equipment. A [Azerbaijani] helicopter has been shot down."
As I said a few days ago, bat down the hatches people! Armenian president said the following.
"Dear colleges,
As you know, this night, at about 3 o'clock, the armed forces of Azerbaijan made provocative actions along the entire line of contact with Nagorno Karabakh. These are the largest by-scale operations after the establishment of ceasefire in 1994, which Azerbaijani armed forces attempted and still attempt to carry out. Due to timely and professional actions of Nagorno Karabakh Defense Army it was possible to take the situation under control and not only take the situation under control, but also inflict considerable losses on the enemy. Meanwhile, during the mentioned period, the opponent used air forces; all types of artillery and armored vehicles. The losses of the enemy’s air forces as well as infantry and armored vehicles are considerable. We also have losses. At the moment, we have 18 victims and almost 35 wounded.
I was regularly briefed on the situation on my way back from the United States and I believe that decisions taken were proper, necessary and righteous. You know that I had visited the United States to attend the Nuclear Security Summit and I had meetings with the Vice President Biden and Secretary of State Kerry in the sidelines of the Summit. I urged them to censure Azerbaijan not to violate the ceasefire rules, and as you saw, hours after those meetings such incidents occurred that it is not known yet what kind of developments will take place. At this moment provocations continue, there are some tensions in the north and south, but, as I already mentioned, Nagorno Karabakh Armed Forces keep control of the situation."
Also if this is any indication of how things have gone down in the past, you can bet your bottom dollar that the Armenian side figures are correct. Below link shows pictures of dead baboon bodies all over the place.
http://armenpress.am/eng/news/841891/nkr-defense-army-publishes-photos-evidencing-eliminated-soldiers-of-azerbaijani-armed-forces.html
The ratio of 200 to 18 is massive. Consider this was a sneak attack, this is a 20 to 1 ratio at night their advantage and they are bleeding like this. As confirmed by the defense minster. It is now time that Armenia made a counter attack. You can bet they are going to bleed and bleed bad. If they could not pull off a sneak attack on this scale they are going to bleed bad. We are now awake, the tactical and strategic situation is in our side and time for some Verje! This is being picked up by all Western sources. They knew ahead of time, this now to me explains the sudden pullout of Moscow, to redeploy forces. As predicted the West is on the Azeri side, no Western news agency is reporting the Armenian figures just reporting and parroting the Azeri official sources. Brace yourselves.
Getze Hayastan!
Vahram
I just got off the phone with a friend in Yerevan who has a son serving in Artsakh. All I can say is that the Armenian side is currently carrying out retaliatory operations all along the line of contact. There will be more Azeri casualties by tomorrow. That said, if the current fighting is not stopped within a day or two, it has the potential to go full scale. Armenia does not want to escalate. The mood in Armenia is that the fighting will end. But just in case it does, Armenia is fielding its big guns -
DeleteSomewhere between Yerevan and Stepanakert: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=e_QP-ICgkBY&spfreload=5
Պաշտպանության բանակը ներկայացրել է թշնամու կորուստները: http://razm.info/81581
Ապատեղեկատվության եւ թշնամու տեղեկատվական բովանդակությունը հայկական լրահոս մտցնելու մասին: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=L0p4JPadHO4
Fucking azeri scum.
DeleteExclusive photos of Karabakh boys wounded in Azerbaijan aggression (PHOTOS)
http://news.am/eng/news/320202.html
Ադրբեջանական խոցված ՄԻ-24 ուղղաթիռը
Deletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=NqatFUgMFxM
All i can say is that the armenian people need strenght and courage to overcome this attack. As Arevodi said, we have long time waited for this moment. I can see the the US and Turkey hand all over the place. If Azerbaijan insist whit this war, no doubt Russia will help Armenia. But first it will do all the diplomatic moves it can. Hugs for all the armenian friends and resist! The azeri people must wake up sooner or later of this madness.
DeleteGreetings from Chile!
Thank you for the moral support, Zorro Chilla.
DeleteArevordi, with the escalating conflict in Nagorno-Karabagh, do you think we might get to see the possible partition of Azerbaijan if Russia gets involved in the NK War?
DeleteIf by the cloak of night, a sneak attack in force yields a 20 to 1 kill ratio, you can bet the motherfucker has changed his mind. The damage on their side is huge this time. See the video below, The plan failed so bad they have no idea what to do now. I hope Armenia does not hold back this time. It is not enough that we have 20 to 1 kill ratio. The heavy weapons must be used to destroy any and all formations.
DeleteWhy Azerbaijani Media Stayed Silent: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=My2H8EPTO4k
Sad news....I will tell you guys i have a family member serving in Jebrail... god bless our armed forces...if this develops further i will be in Armenia in the next few days.
DeleteGev,
DeleteI edited your comment. Please me mindful of the Armenian defense ministry's statement calling on all Armenians to refrain from publicly discussing particulars of what's going on. I knew yesterday that some Armenian positions on the frontline in Artsakh had been lost during the Azeri offensive. Apparently, Armenian troops manning the frontlines in a certain locality had retreated to more secure positions during the previous night's heavy bombardment. I can say this now because officials from the Armenian defense ministry have just made public the news that Armenian force have retaken those positions. The counteroffensive I wrote about yesterday was about retaking lost territory. The Armenians side is wrapping up its counter offensive. I think the fighting is subsiding for now. We'll get more information about what exactly happened in the next few days. If you or anyone else for that matter has obtained sensitive information about military operations that the Armenian defense ministry has not yet confirmed, please do not talk about it or post it anywhere on the internet. There is an army of Western-Israeli-Turkish-Azeri cyber warriors quarrying information on the internet. Armenia/Armenians are one of their targets. HyeClub, for instance, has at least one or two users who are there posing as Armenians merely to gather information about the Armenian military.
@We speculated that anti-Russian interests in the region may be seeking to bring problems closer to Russia's borders in the south Caucasus.
DeleteThis article from huffingtonpost.com.au doesn't even bother to sugar coat the shit. Is that a sign of Turkey desperation or of the determination of the West to continue the "Hybrid" War against Russia?
"Turkey’s Lobbyists Seek U.S. Help By Calling Tiny Armenia A Big Threat. Armenia is allowing Russia to menace NATO member Turkey, according to the lobbyists". 04/01/2016:
WASHINGTON — A lobbying firm that’s a registered agent of the Turkish government is trying out a new argument during Turkish President Recep Tayyip Erdogan’s visit to the U.S. this week: the Russians are coming, and Armenia is helping them...
Mercury, which registered to work on behalf of Turkey last month, hopes to convince lawmakers to attach their names to two separate documents, an aide told The Huffington Post.
One is a letter addressed to Secretary of State John Kerry that focuses on the “growing military alliance between Russia and Armenia” — citing the flow of Russian fighter jets, helicopters gunships and drones to Armenia. It calls the Russia-Armenia relationship “deeply concerning.”
The other is what’s called a “Dear Colleague” letter, intended to be passed from one member of Congress to others to drum up congressional interest. The “Dear Colleague” missive is to be sent April 4, when NATO Secretary-General Jens Stoltenberg will be in Washington.
The document doesn’t mention Turkey by name, but states, “The time to stand with our allies is now.” It also encourages recipients to read an op-ed by James Foley, a former deputy chief of staff to the NATO secretary-general. The copy of the letter seen by HuffPost does not include a link to that op-ed, but one of the aides said Mercury on Thursday sent his office a Time magazine piece by Foley that highlights Russian aggression against NATO and says Turkey is more important to the security alliance than ever. Foley served as U.S. ambassador to Croatia from 2009 to 2012, and was a Bush administration senior coordinator on the Iraqi refugee issue.
“The Turkish Institute for Progress along with U.S. security experts and officials are calling on Armenia to expel the two Russian bases in Armenia and to sever its military ties with [President Vladimir] Putin’s Russia. The close relationship between Russia and Armenia speaks for itself,” said Derya Taskin, the institute’s president.
Mercury’s work “is on behalf of TIP,” which is not government-funded, Mercury’s John Cpin said in an email. “We have consistently been educating congress about the concerns surrounding Putin’s influence in Armenia and the threat to NATO that influence represents,” he added...
Romanian Anonymus,
DeleteI would not be surprised if this military offensive by Baku was agreed to or sanctioned by Western, Israeli and Turkish officials as a way of punishing Armenia for its close ties with Russia and/or threatening Russia with a new front closer to its southern border. The conspirators were in Washington DC last week, so was our president. The absurdity of Armenia's "complimentary politics" is revealed in this picture taken last month -
https://www.facebook.com/razm.info/photos/pb.106246626152345.-2207520000.1459699054./835626216547712/?type=3&theater
Jerriko,
DeleteRussia will only get involved if Armenia and Artsakh are under the threat of being overrun by Azerbaijan. That is simply not a possibility because Azerbaijan is simply not large enough or powerful enough to threaten Armenia or Artsakh. Russia is covering our western border with Turkey as we concentrate our resources on keeping Azerbaijan in check on our eastern border. Armenia can easily handle Azerbaijan. Armenians who complain about Russians not getting involved are either idiots who have no understanding of politics whatsoever or Western agents trying to sow discord between Yerevan and Moscow. That said, I don't think Azerbaijan will be falling apart as of yet. That said, the situation in Azerbaijan is growing increasingly desperate. If the situation on the frontlines in Artsakh get out of control and turns into a full scale war, the country can fall apart. Azerbaijan is a fake nation made of of several major ethnic groups. It is therefore naturally prone to fragmenting. But, and I hope I am wrong, I don't think it will happen at least in the foreseeable future because Baku has the backing of heavy weights (Western powers, Turkey and Israel).
We should not be neither perplexed nor surprised at the latest escalation or flare up. Everyone, from the street sweeper to the housewives knew that sometime the Azeries would launch an attack. The Azeries have bought so much hardware in the last few years, that at one stage or another it will be deployed and used. It seems the attack caught the NKR and our intelligence services unawares ? It was a sneak attack which ought to have been anticipated. It might have been, and the frontline positions may have been expecting it, however the degree and intensity of the azery attack might have outpaced defensive calculations. It is hoped that neither the NKR nor Armenia would falter and desist to adopt a purely defensive stance. Defensive capabilities are perfectly in order, but it must be coupled with offensive capacities. Our losses in the battlefield are deeply felt and one dead soldier is one dead too many. Azerbaijan must be checkmated; fragmented and splintered. The sooner, the better. Azerbaijan and Turkey are one nation in two states. We have two turkish states. For ensuring our survival as a race and nation, the eastern turkish state must be deleted. We can not have East Turkey hanging like a sword of Damocles on our heads. As for the complimentary politics , it is a farce; it is an equivocal policy; but it is played by politicians -- not statesmen-- and it is a sham. It is a legacy of the pathetic and submissive football diplomacy of yeateryears. The West, as it stands today it's Russia's enemy, and correspondingly our enemy.
DeleteArmenians wake up, your enemy is not the Armenian government, your enemy is the Turk.
DeleteTalish after one day visit of Azerbaijanis (graphic):http://en.aravot.am/2016/04/03/175185/
Those were terrible pictures you posted, Serge. But they are a timely reminder for us all about who our enemy is. Turks/Azeris are barbarians. They are capable of despicable acts. And thanks for the other reminder as well. Yes, Armenians need to wake up from their Western-inspired fantasies about "democracy" and "civil society" realize that Armenia is surrounded by predators that would not hesitate even one moment to devour it. Armenians need to end their political illiteracy and self-centeredness and finally recognize that Armenia's ONLY problem today is its geographic location amid Turkic/Islamic nations and its blockade by NATO-member Turkey and Azerbaijan. For all its flaws - both real and perceived - Armenia's leadership is the leadership we have, it's the leadership we deserve and it's the leadership we need to learn to work with for the benefit of Armenia. Our idiots in the Diaspora need to fight Turks, not "corruption" in Armenia. Any Armenian today that is attacking our leadership - for any fucking reason(!) - is no better than a Turk. So, a big FUCK YOU (!) to all our Western-led political opposition activists; I wish it was you and your family members that had died this weekend instead.
DeleteI second what Serge and Arevordi say. These lowlives have no honor!!!
DeleteBut, finally here is some good news from Artsrun Hovhannisyan (representative of the Armenian Defense Ministry)
Վերջապես սպասված լուրեր։ Հայկական ստորաբաժանումները ռազմաճակատի որոշ հատվածներում լուրջ առաջխաղացում ունեն ազատագրելով նորանոր դիրքեր ու բնագծեր։ Փառք հայոց զինվորին։
https://www.facebook.com/arcrun/posts/1015685395133735?pnref=story
Another important development. Lezgin and Talysh organizations within azerbaijan call their compatriots to not fight Armenians:
http://www.national.am/lezgins-will-not-fight-against-armenians/
Arevordi, I share you anger. At the risk of upsetting you much more, take a look at this from the wonderful Armenian community in Canada.
DeleteWhat If It’s a Potemkin Army: http://www.keghart.com/Editorial-Potemkin-Army#comment-24219
This is very interesting, considering it is a western source but this is food for thought.
DeleteInside Story - What triggered the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aNw1Ka05PM4
Pro Turkish, Pro Jew West sides with the baboon.
Inside Story - What triggered the conflict in Nagorno-Karabakh?: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Oj3CXhc7omw
It is obvious that a new front is being opened against Russia, and punishment against Armenia for not allowing NATO bases.
DeleteEncirclement of Russia: the War for Ngorno-Karabakh between Armenia and Azerbaijan:
http://www.globalresearch.ca/encirclement-of-russia-the-war-for-ngorno-karabakh-between-armenia-and-azerbaijan/5518224
Arto,
DeleteNothing surprises me about the North American diaspora anymore. I have been on Keghart's mailing list, but a friend had brought this article to my attention early yesterday. I was already in a bad mood because of the breaking news from Artsakh, and this article just infuriated me. I have already sent them an email telling them to take me off their mailing list. The people at Keghart are your typical Middle Easterner turned Westerner axpars. These types of people think they are important because have money or because they have a "title". They also think they are the ones keeping Armenia afloat today because of the used clothing they periodically send to the embattled nation. What they are in reality is self-engrossed Westernized morons. A great majority of Keghart's materials can be categorized as anti-Armenian propaganda or destructive criticism of Armenia and its government. They also act as a public platform for Western-funded mercenaries such as "Armenian Renaissance", "Founding Parliament" and "New Armenia". In the big picture: These people are not Armenian. They are proud Canadians and proud Americans. And before they were proud North Americans, they were proud Lebanese. And before they were proud Lebanese, they were proud Ottomans... These people have been and will always be useless for Armenia. They would actually be most helpful for Armenia's development if they just quietly assimilated and spared the rest of us their "intellectual" nonsense.
Some Syrian Armenian are preferring to migrate to the multiracial cauldron of Canada, and Amerika, instead of settling in the motherland. Lost souls for our nation.
DeleteArevordi,
ReplyDelete@ military offensive by Baku was agreed to or sanctioned by Western...the conspirators were in Washington DC last week...
I took that from the very useful site The Vineyard of the Saker, remarkable for very pertinent analyses of the War against Russia:
"On April 2nd, at the time of escalation of skirmishes in Donbas, with the Ukrainian military attacking and shelling Donetsk and nearby villages, Azerbaijan has attacked the Armenian-populated Karabakh.
On March 30, 2016 Kerry met with the president of Azerbaijan Aliev and called for an ‘ultimate resolution‘ of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict.
Per Reuters, “U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry called on Wednesday for “an ultimate resolution” of the two-decade-old Nagorno-Karabakh conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia during talks with Azeri President Ilham Aliyev at the State Department.”
@http://thesaker.is/armenia-azerbaijan-war-for-nagorno-karabakh-sitrep-april-2nd-2016-by-scott/
See actually Kerry's discourse at the meeting with Alyiev:
"Obviously, Azerbaijan is located in a complex region right now and I think President Aliyev has been very studious and thoughtful about how to respond to some of those needs, particularly with his leadership on the Southern Gas Corridor. This is a very important step with respect to Europe’s long-term strategic interests, and frankly, to try to diversify the sourcing of energy, which is important.
We obviously share other interests in counterterrorism. We want to see an ultimate resolution of the frozen conflict of Nagorno-Karabakh that needs to be a negotiated settlement and something that has to be worked on over time. - See more at: http://www.mediamax.am/en/news/karabakh/17409/#sthash.OdmIriJ6.dpuf
Of course he talks of "negotiated settlement", which probably should follow the attack on the Sakaashvili model. A key phrase is: "This is a very important step with respect to Europe’s long-term strategic interests, and frankly, to try to diversify the sourcing of energy, which is important".
Apparently they want to push Turkey to take a more active role on the Black Sea front.
«Երկիրն այսօր»-ի 15:30-ի արտակարգ թողարկումը:
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=S80Pi-oTQmo
Հյուսիսային եւ հյուսիսարեւելյան ուղղություններում իրավիճակը նախորդ օրվա համեմատ շատ չի փոխվել: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=U0J49Zf8TFU
Մարտակերտ. կադրեր առաջնագծից:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nnw73502vGI
Ադրբեջանական կորուստները փաստող տեսանյութ: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FkLYxxB0XIk
Առաջնագծում: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YQTG3In_ITY
Ազատամարտիկ. «Գնում ենք մեր երիտասարդների կողքին լինենք»:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MoiI5QQXf_w
Կամավոր հավաք Ստեփանակերտում:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Fy6lA_DAE6E
«Գնում ենք մեր երեխաների կողքին կանգնելու»:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7uCsNl9TGK4
Գորիս. առաջնագիծ մեկնող կամավորներ:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=p3_WMZlMs7g
Razminfo (website):
https://www.facebook.com/razm.info/
Razminfo (pictures):
https://www.facebook.com/razm.info/photos_stream?ref=page_internal
Azerbaijan claims ceasefire in Nagorny-Karabakh, Armenia says hostilities continue:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=f-CR82qGhLA
I noticed that the Azeri dead in Talish looked like middle aged men. I wonder if Baku grabbed a bunch of rapists and murderers from prison, gave them some guns and sent them on a suicide mission.
DeleteAzerbaijan may be claiming to have ceased hostilities ( disinformation) ; but the Armenian response has been a readiness to discuss a ceasefire within the framework of recovery of territory ? Does this mean that some fortified positions have been lost to the enemy ?. If that is the case , it is a somber picture. A ceasefire under these circumstances will embolden the azeries further. If igniting the line of contact and engaging in warfare lasting a few days enables them to capture pieces of land followed by a ceasefire, then it will become an Azeris modus operandi for the future. Armenian news speak of lost heights being taken back, but these reports are still vague. Lav verchiny baderazme.
DeleteI will wait until this Friday. Should things continue that means we are going full scale....God forbid if that is the case I will be in Armenia on Saturday. I plan on going to the most intense areas.
DeleteSome communiques speak of liberating positions and reaching new boundaries, implying that NKR soldiers are gaining new ground. Well that is a very good start. NKR needs to expand the line of contact by acquiring more territories and enlarging the cordon sanitaire, before any end of hostilities is agreed upon. Ground realities speak louder than diplomat's screeches. Under consideration is also the recourse for the independence of NKR to be recognized by Hayastan.
DeleteWhat are the political implications of Armenia recognizing the independence of Artsaj? There has to be a reason , as far as the timing is concerned, for such a decision, are there advantages for such an action now?
DeleteAnonymous,
DeleteNot officially recognizing Artsakh's independence (or its reunification with Armenia) made political sense - as long as the cease fire was maintained between the two opposing sides. Therefore, not recognizing Artsakh's independence was primarily meant to save lives and avoid a war. Azeris have literally been getting away with murder because our side wanted to play the diplomacy game. Anyway, despite the periodic border skirmishes, Yerevan's grand plan worked for a while. It's not working anymore. Baku is desperate. Turkey is desperate. Western powers may be seeking a new hotspot on Russia's southern border.
What is happening right now in the region is a low intensity war. Although it's still confined to border areas in Artsakh, it's a war like situation nonetheless. This is the first time attack helicopters, main battle tanks, heavy artillery and multiple rocket launchers have been in combat used since 1994. This is a war and we are now losing too many servicemen and civilians. If we are to lose lives in this fighting, then make the deaths serve a purpose by recognizing Artskah's independence. If the situation remains the same for another few days, this is the time to recognize Artsakh independence. But that's not enough, Yerevan has to engage in punitive actions by taking new territories such as strategic heights around Artsakh. If the fighting intensifies, then Shahumyan and Nakhijevan have to be brought into the war's equation. If the fighting morphs into a full scale war, then hit the fucking pipelines, hit the reservoir, hit Ganja, hit oil fields, etc.
Our officials need to realize that their old plan is now not working. They should therefore put aide their "complimentary politics" bullshit and get a little more hardlined.
And times like this is when the quality of Armenia's relationship with Russia comes into play. I have been calling for closer Russian-Armenian relations for a decade. My wish is to see Moscow and Yerevan become inseparable allies. Moreover, I am sober enough to realize that Armenia CANNOT survive in the south Caucasus without Russian help. And I also realize that Russia is the alpha and the omega of the Caucasus region.
How close is Yerevan to Moscow? Not close enough. How well have Armenian officials been lobbying Artsakh's case in Moscow? Not well at all. Why? Because Armenian officials have been too busy pandering to Western powers and sending Armenian troops to participate in anti-Russian drill long side Georgian, Ukrainian and Turkish troops. Armenian officials even opened a NATO center in Yerevan. Armenia hosts one of the world's largest CIA front offices (i.e. the US embassy in Yerevan). Armenian officials go out of their way to kiss Uncle Sam's ass. Armenia's political opposition (those who are waiting on the political sides in Yerevan to grab power) all work for Western interests. Yerevan has failed to win the full trust of Russia, the nation that can make or break Armenia. We Armenians continue admiring Jews for their political acumen, but when it comes to acting like Jews, we Armenians instead continue acting like Arabs.
So, knowing all this about Armenia and Armenians, will Moscow want to see Armenia off the leash by settling the Artsakh dispute totally in Armenia's favor? Ask yourself: If you were a top level Russian official, what guarantee would you have that once Armenia is fully satisfied, Yerevan won't go running off with NATO? The flaws that exists in the relationship between Russia and Armenia is mostly our fault because we have totally neglected lobbying efforts in Moscow in favor of kissing asses in Western capitols. That said, I have no doubt that Russia will stand firmly beside Armenia in any major war in the region. This is most probably why the latest Azeri attacks have thus far been confined to only Artsakh's borders.
Հրապարակվում են հայկական կողմի զոհերի անունները:
Deletehttp://blognews.am/arm/news/357016/haykakan-koxmi-korustnery-lracvox.html
Ադրբեջանական հատուկ ջոկատայինների դիակները Մատաղիսի հատվածում:
http://blognews.am/arm/news/356961/adrbejanakan-hatuk-jokatayinneri-diaknery--mataxisi-hatvatsum.html
Հայկական զինված ուժերը հուժկու հակահարված են տալիս ադրբեջանական ագրեսիային:
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZNS_93KptZw
Nagorno-Karabakh: Another “triumph” of US diplomacy:
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2016/04/03/nagorno-karabakh-april-fools-war/#.VwJGcpkwO1M.email
Азербайджанский отряд ИГИЛ покинул Ракку, чтобы воевать в НКР:
http://lifenews.ru/news/194789
A few more links:
DeleteArmenia Azerbaijan war for Nagorno-Karabakh SITREP April 2nd, 2016 by Scott: http://thesaker.is/armenia-azerbaijan-war-for-nagorno-karabakh-sitrep-april-2nd-2016-by-scott/
СРОЧНО: Турецкие наемники и инструкторы помогают армии Азербайджана атаковать Карабах: http://rusvesna.su/news/1459691584
It was inevitable that after Russia's military successes in Syria, some of the surviving Azeri jihadis would be going back to their homeland and asking their sultan, what are you doing about these Russian-backed Armenian infidels? With falling oil prices, it was also obvious that the sultan in Baku was growing increasingly desperate. It is also a possibility that Anglo-American-Jewish interests would be seeking to open a new front against Russia via their Turkic-Islamic allies. We therefore could be seeing a convergence of interests once again, and once again Armenia and Russia are the targets.
DeleteI don't see any alternative to a full-scale war between Armenia and Artsakh, initially limited to the Artsakh theatre along with Syunik and Nakhijevan. If (when) fighting erupts in Tavush, all bets are off.
DeleteAzeris Attack Bus Carrying Combat Volunteers, Killing 7
http://asbarez.com/148368/azeris-attack-bus-carrying-combat-volunteers-killing-7/
This video says a lot of the spirit that embodies the Armenian spirit. These are all vets from the first war, joining again as if they have not done enough already. 60 year old men, singing in joy. Toorks, tanks, AVF?...so what!
Delete60 տարեկան մարդ, պատրաստ եմ թուրքերին հագցնելու: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8_h4vLTI-x4
Getze Hayastan
Arevordi,
Delete@ military offensive by Baku was agreed to or sanctioned by Western...the conspirators were in Washington DC last week...
I took that from the very useful site The Vineyard of the Saker, remarkable for very pertinent analyses of the War against Russia:
"On April 2nd, at the time of escalation of skirmishes in Donbas, with the Ukrainian military attacking and shelling Donetsk and nearby villages, Azerbaijan has attacked the Armenian-populated Karabakh. On March 30, 2016 Kerry met with the president of Azerbaijan Aliev and called for an ‘ultimate resolution‘ of the Nagorno-Karabakh conflict. Per Reuters, “U.S. Secretary of State John Kerry called on Wednesday for “an ultimate resolution” of the two-decade-old Nagorno-Karabakh conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia during talks with Azeri President Ilham Aliyev at the State Department.”
@http://thesaker.is/armenia-azerbaijan-war-for-nagorno-karabakh-sitrep-april-2nd-2016-by-scott/
See actually Kerry's discourse at the meeting with Alyiev:
"Obviously, Azerbaijan is located in a complex region right now and I think President Aliyev has been very studious and thoughtful about how to respond to some of those needs, particularly with his leadership on the Southern Gas Corridor. This is a very important step with respect to Europe’s long-term strategic interests, and frankly, to try to diversify the sourcing of energy, which is important. We obviously share other interests in counterterrorism. We want to see an ultimate resolution of the frozen conflict of Nagorno-Karabakh that needs to be a negotiated settlement and something that has to be worked on over time. - See more at: http://www.mediamax.am/en/news/karabakh/17409/#sthash.OdmIriJ6.dpuf
Of course he talks of "negotiated settlement", which probably should follow the attack on the Sakaashvili model. A key phrase is: "This is a very important step with respect to Europe’s long-term strategic interests, and frankly, to try to diversify the sourcing of energy, which is important".
Apparently they want to push Turkey to take a more active role on the Black Sea front.
Romanian,
DeleteThe analysis makes sense, and it is more-or-less what we have been talking about here. The Western-Turkish defeat in Syria on one hand, the worsening socioeconomic situation in Azerbaijan on the other hand, something was bound to happen, either in Novorossiya or in Nagorno Karabakh. The big question is, is Baku willing/ready to escalate this war (thus far limited) by bombing Stepanakert or starting hostilities on Armenia's eastern border? And the other big questions is, what will Moscow do if the current still confined, still under control situation gets out of hand? I am not talking about what official announcements Moscow will make, but what will Moscow do behind the scenes, where Russians love to operate?
I know Nagorno Karabakh troops are doing well against the Azeri assault as of now. I also know that Russia has no treaty obligations to fight along side Nagorno Karabakh forces, but Moscow better realize that if Nagorno Karabakh begins losing territory, it will embolden Azeris, Turks and Western powers and the region will become destabilized once more. A stable south Caucasus can only be maintained with a powerful Armenia and Nagorno Karabakh. No other way.
If we have had a direct border with Russia, none of this would be happening now. If the Azeries expand the conflict, maybe an opportunity might arise where the cinfiguration of the area might translate into the ultimate realization, a border with Russia. Artsaj can never, unless Armenia ceases to exist as a sovereign nation state, be traded, or return to its Stalinist demarcations. Therefore " negotiations over the land" are not going to succeed. Armenia needs to impose a peace on the Azeries, this can be accomplished with the feat of our armed forces. From Russia's perspective, I don't estimate that any favorable Azeri outcome to be aligned with their geopolitical interests. The land of Artsaj is priceless. Russia can not let it go away from Armenian hands. It is too close to Russia for comfort. The geography of Artsaj is such that it has the potential to be transformed into an impregnable military bastion for its owners. Ultimately our fate will be largely determined in what manner Russia is prepared to deal with the Turks and turkey. We have been the barrier to panturkic expansion and linkage of turkey to the rest of eastern Turkic races. We have to get out of that designated role and assume a larger and different role. I do pray for our armed forces to prevail victoriously in this struggle and impose the peace on the Caucasian tartars .
DeleteAnonymous,
DeleteUnder no circumstances should Armenian forces leave their mountain strongholds, where their numeric inferiority is off-set by the mountainous terrain. Armenia does not have resources to operate deep inside Azeri territory. Such a thing can only be envisioned as a joint Russian-Armenian operation.
@the attack on the Sakaashvili model.
DeleteI thought that was a 'bon mot'from my part. Apparently there is more than a witticism:
"Georgian Legion" Is Ready to Help Azerbaijan "Conquer" Karabakh"
"This statement was made by the commander of the Legion - Mamuka (Ushangi) Mamulashvili.
"The Azerbaijani-Russian conflict was unleashed in Karabakh, which is an integral part of Azerbaijan. We do not support the conflict between Azerbaijan and Armenia, and we are all well aware that a collision is provoked by Russia and Putin's regime!", said the national legionary on their social media page.
Resolute commander Mamulashvili, after the adoption of the law on the right of foreigners to serve in armed forces of Ukraine, was one of the first who arrived with his group to participate in the punitive "ATO" against Donbass. Initially, he received a Ukrainian military ID. All members of the Georgian Legion are contracted soldiers of the APU, and became part of the 25th mechanized infantry battalion "Kievan Rus". The Georgian mercenaries have been fighting against the NAF on the territory of Donbass since 2014."
@http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/04/georgian-legion-is-ready-to-help.html
We have all known for a while that this was coming, the question remains was there any surprises for our army or secret services and in terms of arms used. its has been very hard and fast fighting, from whats been reported we have taken big hit but without much panic but i could be wrong on this on. No one wants to our young soldiers dying its pains so much so let this be a major warning and reminder to our own who still have fantasies about the west make no mistake this was ordered or at least given the green light from Washington, as we all know now the game they are playing its to hurt russia and we are going to pay a high price for that but its a price worth paying in defending the motherland. For those pieces of shits that kept complaining about our government and our alliance with russia they should all be stripped naked and send to the front if all this time they didnt or dont understand what we are facing and the dangers our people have to deal with just to survive this is this why as an Armenian in the diaspora i have no right to dictate to the homeland i can only help financially or with more practical ways when the time calls, hopefully this nightmare ends soon but without doing damage to the enermy i fear that they will continue this new tagic i dont think its a one off the west wants another front against russia lets not pray but be prepared for the realities on the ground, but i must say i have been very proud of our people's reaction they are have taken it upon them to go to the front and back our army, our army is the most important institution that we have everything and everyone should be ready to help in whatever way they can because in this cold world those with weapons can defend themselves because we know what happens when your defenceless. We should keep calm major war isnt going to break out i understand its painful but the armenia state cant start this war russia doesn't want it either so how best to deal with provocations my best bet is for the armenian state to say a big f u to the whole west and get even closer to russia i hope our government and our people finally understand or have woken up to realize enough is enough.
DeleteA cease fire has been agreed by both sides, according to reports. Once again the aggressor gets away with his aggression. They might have suffered casualties, but it does not bother the turks the number of their losses. The probing thrusts into Atrsaj have not yielded the desired results for the enemy. We have suffered serious casualties and that is very grave. Recognition or an enosis of NKR should follow now. Somehow the enemy has to pay for his latest brutal violation of the existing ceasefire. We are not sure what the line of contact looks like now . The enemy claims they took 7 heights, positions. Reports mentioned that 5 of them were recovered. Other news report a flare up in the Tavush are, which is outside NKR. We have to wait and see the final delineation and lines of contact.
DeleteThere should be every incentive for Russia to back the NKR and encourage the Armenian armed forces to drive toward Baku and take over the oil fields. The Caspian oil is wasted in the hands of Baku's tatars. Such a shock should kick start the disintegration of the artificial construct called azerbidjan. There is major shifts in geopolitical advantages to cut out USA-Israeli influence with the Tartars. Particularly the Israeli presence needs to be eliminated. It raises Iran's hackles to have jews loitering in their backyard. Iran should feel comfortable with the Caspian oil rigs changing into Russian-Armenian hands. The NKR can handle themselves. Azerbidjan is going nowhere, inspite of its oil wealth. They must be made to understand and internalize that it is easier for a camel to go through the eye of a needle than for the Tartars to ever see Artsaj again. A ceasefire ?, it is a temporary lull; who knows how long will it hold. In the worst possible scenario, an apocaliptic scenario; Russia will throw off restraint and somehow position themselves in Karabagh and throw the tartars back into their oil sooted Baku. Armenia and NKR cannot lose this war, not against the Alyev tribesmen.
DeleteBk,
DeleteI do not think the Armenian side was surprised at all. We all were waiting for some form of an attack. Azeris and Armenians had been concentrating military assets near the line-of-contact for many years. There have been periodic skirmishes, including probing attacks by both sides for many years. When you have two opposing sides so close for so long, the only thing that can surprise is the actual intensity of the attack. Was Yerevan expecting this attack? I think it was, but I don't think it knew when it would happen. Since Azeri military units are so close to the line-of-contact, once given the order to attack, it would take literally minutes to reach the Armenian trenches. The intensity with which they attacked was great. It was therefore inevitable that our side would lose men and material.
Regarding our military: While I noticed some sloppiness on the Armenian side (e.g. soldiers casually smoking cigarettes near the front lines, artillery men without lake jackets or helmets, military vehicles without camouflage netting, etc), I think our side performed very well. More information will come out in the next few days about the bravery of Armenian troops. I am also impressed at the speed with which large numbers of veterans and other volunteers from Armenia poured into Artsakh. That said, the Azeri side did expose some of our weaknesses. By accepting the ceasefire at a time when the Armenian side has not adequately punished Azeris for their aggression, the Armenian side has essentially signaled to Baku that it can safely continue its military adventures in the future. I think there is a serious lack of resolve in official Yerevan. I think there is indecision in Yerevan. I think Yerevan is afraid of a war, and predatory Turks are smelling its fear.
Anyway, I think this was a timely wake up call to us. While I am very saddened for the lose of lives, I think this was a necessary battle. Unfortunately, we Armenians are one of those people that have to be reminded from time-to-time that the enemy is the Turk and not the Armenian government. We also needed to be reminded that a nation without a capable military and the willingness to fight does not deserve statehood. If we prove our mettle in politics and in war, others, as well as our Russian allies, will begin taking us more seriously.
Articles of interest -
DeletePutin Phones Armenian, Azeri Leaders: Russian military begins exercises in Dagestan region bordering Azerbaijan: http://www.azatutyun.am/content/article/27656358.html
Russian armed forces start tactical exercises in Dagestan: http://www.arminfo.info/index.cfm?objectid=68B40500-FB28-11E5-8F470EB7C0D21663
Russia may quite supplying military equipment to Azerbaijan due to Karabakh conflict: http://armenpress.am/eng/news/842342/russia-may-quit-supplying-military-equipment-to-azerbaijan-due-to-karabakh-conflict.html
Fighting in Nagorno Karabakh: A Headache for Moscow: http://russia-insider.com/en/politics/fighting-nagorno-karabakh-headache-moscow/ri13720
In an Armenian-Azeri War Russia Has Nothing to Gain and Turkey Nothing to Lose: http://russia-insider.com/en/armenian-azeri-war-russia-has-nothing-gain-and-turkey-nothing-lose/ri13752
Nagorno-Karabakh: Another “triumph” of US diplomacy:
http://original.antiwar.com/justin/2016/04/03/nagorno-karabakh-april-fools-war/#.VwJGcpkwO1M.email
Israeli-made kamikaze drone spotted in Nagorno-Karabakh conflict: https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/checkpoint/wp/2016/04/05/israeli-made-kamikaze-drone-spotted-in-nagorno-karabakh-conflict/
"Georgian Legion" Is Ready to Help Azerbaijan "Conquer" Karabakh : http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/04/georgian-legion-is-ready-to-help.html
Understanding the fight in Artaskh between Armenia and Azerbaijan: https://www.almasdarnews.com/article/understanding-fight-artaskh-armenia-azerbaijan/
Nagorno-Karabakh: This ‘frozen’ post-Soviet conflict is heating up and fits right in with current global chaos: http://news.nationalpost.com/news/world/nagorno-karabakh-this-frozen-post-soviet-conflict-is-heating-up-and-fits-right-in-with-current-global-chaos
Number of Armenian volunteers are so great that only the most experiences is accepted: http://armenpress.am/eng/news/842098/
I am eagerly waiting for Zoravar's analysis. Military matters are not my area, but from what I can gather, despite the overwhelming demographic, economic, and armaments disadvantage, tiny Artsakh successfully repelled a major Azeri invasion and caused the enemy tens of millions of dollars of losses in armaments, along with a few hundred or several hundred dead. The heroic Armenian soldiers and military officials deserve are gratitude and praise.
DeleteThose old men who were lining up to volunteer for service were something else - the best kind of people. Just a handful of those resilient villagers and peasants mean more for Armenian survival and prosperity than a hundred thousand lawyers and "intellectuals" in the diaspora. The "intellectuals" won't leave any traces in Armenian history, but the heroism of our warriors young and old will live on forever and inspire Armenians thousands of years into the future.
ps Armenia First And Foremost, Armenia Above Everything! Fuck all of Armenia's enemies, including israel, georgia, ukraine, pakistan, saudi arabaia, all of the turks' other allies; "the islamic world" in general, the west in genreal; and last but most certainly not least, all of "intellectual" faggots and other Armenia-bashing traitors calling themselves Armenian.
What do folks think the internal politics would likely be in Armenia and Azerbaijan after this, assuming no gain of territory by AZ and no clear death figures by Baku? And, of course, Baku media will lie to brainwash their citizens. Will this strengthen the Yerevan government? What about Baku? If Baku tells everybody that they are going to keep trying unless Yerevan "seriously" negotiates, how would the players likely respond?
DeleteBy the way, who is this fellow? Is he part of the Western NGO phalanx? It does seem logical that Baku felt time was against them now.
Making Sense of “the Four Day War”: https://mikayelzolyan.wordpress.com/2016/04/05/making-sense-of-the-four-day-war/
The geopolitical situation created by the bolchevick and the dog Stalin ( an anti Armenian leper) with karabagh has no peaceful resolution. The solution rests in a military outcome. One ought to look at the scenario and its actors from a different , and broader perspective. Turkey has geopolitical objectives that are the life and soul of its existence. Eliminate Armenia as an obstacle to its pan turanic project. Azerbaijan is eastern turkey, or Caucasus turkey. Russia by its geography is compelled to keep its presence in Transcaucasia, as a defensive pivot against encroachment to its land mass. As a result of this play , control of an aerea which is critical to both nations politics, Russia and turkey are historical enemies. We have not brought Iran into the equation, since Iranian and Russian geopolitical interests are, for the moment, aligned and complementary to each other.. Wedged between these two powers lie Armenia, a thorn for the Turks, and a key , strategic ally for Russian political interests in the region. From the Armenian perspective, their existential threat from Turkey is ever present , and it's necessity to be allied to Russia is not an option any longer. We now come to the NKR scenario. Armenian ancestral, historical territory, which should not under any circumstances be considered disputed territory.
DeleteBut disputed territory it has become, since it is an additional thorn on Turks, Anatolian and Caucasian. In this geopolitical struggle, you also have external interests meddling in the fray, interests allied to turkey, like the USA and the EU. The USA actor Kerry is supposed to have said to the Azeries that " an ultimate solution must be found for the NKR". Has any Member of the Armenian government. Questioned Kerry to elaborate on his " ultimate solution " wording ? This man Kerry is not known for having uttered statements to the effect that an " ultimate solution " needs to be found to the Israeli-Palestine conflict , as an example of word play. If Kerry stated to the Azeries the " ultimate" word, this can only mean one thing , take back karabagh with military means; since that is the only way a solution can be found to fit with Turkish and USA strategic objectives in the region. From the Armenian side , it should be a reminder that maintaining the status quo requires a commensurate punishment to every Azeri attempt to change the borders. In this latest outcome of fighting it is to early to discern practical results, other than counting the casualty estimates. Did the Azeries gain any piece of territory , ? The Azeri claim they did, even if it is 200 or 300 meters, it is a gain, regardless of the price they may have paid. They can afford to invest 1000 men casualties and military hardware for every inch of land. Defensive strategies need to be adopted with offensive capabilities to deliver crippling blows to the enemy every time it attempts to change the course of events. We do not know if the latest attempt has run its course and spent itself yet. A pattern is emerging, every year or so attacks will be launched against NKR, to destabilize the existing conditions. The Armenian govt. seems to have been content to agree to a ceasefire retaining existing line of contacts. We can not afford to make sacrifices and suffer losses in men an materiel just to maintain the status quo. The enemy has to pay an unaffordable price for its adventurism if we are to break the pattern, of attempted invasion followed by cease fire.
As a strategic ally of Russia, Armenia must make it clear to their strategic partner that delivery of defensive weapons only is not enough. The army needs to be provided with a powerful offensive capability , modern and strong , to act as a deterrent and retaliatory arm to any predatory neighbor in the region. It is time now to recognize NKR as an inalienable and integral part of the Republic. The NKR's people are natural born warriors; they need to be equipped with the latest technology and sophisticated military weapons available. We have to accept unconditionally our fate as a modern day Sparta, and stop dreaming of a "better life abroad".
DeleteArmenia has been provided offensive weapons systems, and more are on the way. The problem is that we simply do not have the numbers to wage an offensive inside Azeri territory and Yerevan does not have the political will or the foresight to get tough with Baku. The fact is, Yerevan is terribly afraid of a war. Our predatory neighbors can smell this fear. While as a strategic partner Russia will ensure Armenia's and Artsakh's survival - and will definitely intervene to save it if it was under real danger - it will not blindly turn Armenia into a regional powerhouse because Armenians have always (since independence) had one foot with Russia, another foot with the West.
DeleteWhile Yerevan is allied to Russia, it allows the opening of a NATO center in Yerevan; it sends Armenian troops to participate in NATO exercises along side Turks and Ukrainians; it gives a platform to large numbers of Western funded political activists and officials; it allows the existence of one of the world's largest CIA headquarters on its territory; it allows an army of Western-financed NGOs a free hand to do as they please; it keeps Armenia's economy tied to the US Dollar...
Moscow has been complaining about all this for many-many years. Putin even recently scolded Sargsyan over Armenia's refusal to depart with the US Dollar and stop flirting with EU and NATO.
Armenian society is utterly saturated with emotional/irrational people and Western operatives. You will now hear angry talk about Russia "stopping Armenians from advancing against Azerbaijan". Had Russia not stopped the war, you would have heard the same idiots complaining that "Russia allowed Azeris to kill Armenians and ravage Armenian lands".
These Russophobes, many of whom are armchair generals in the Diaspora and Western operatives in Armenia, are the same ones that constantly call on the Armenian military to "drive to Baku and destroy their oil fields". These people are either crazy and/or agent provocateurs. Had Armenians went on a major offensive inside Azeri territory, our military would have been defeated and we would have lost thousands do men. The same applies to 1994. Let's put aside the stupid bravado and recognize that our enemy is not as weak as we think they are. Armenians need to stop their bravado before it kills the nation. Being proud of our soldiers for their bravery in combat and being able to hold their battle lines against a massive attack is one thing... calling on Armenian army to disregard Moscow's objections and strike all the way to Baku is utter stupidity bordering on treason.
So, let's thank Moscow for stepping in and stopping the fight. Moreover, I think the Israeli made attack drones was also a major determining factor in stopping the Armenian counter-offensive. This war saw the battlefield deployment for these new weapons systems for the first time. The several main battle tanks we lost were most probably hit by these drone. They proved to be a battlefield success, in my opinion. Military analysts around the world will be all over this new combat development. Our defense ministry better take a quick trip to Moscow and seek ways to combat these attack drones before Azeris get the urge to try another offensive.
Russia is in a very difficult and complex position. It has to execute flawless statecraft, and macromanage the situation on the ground. It has thus far been doing so brilliantly. It is strategically allied to Armenia, but its does not want to totally lose Azerbaijan to Turkey or the West either. Moscow therefore ensures Armenia's survival but also deals with Azerbaijan. Trust me, we want Russia to deal with Azerbaijan. We want Russia to sell arms to Azerbaijan. If Russia was not a factor in Baku, Azerbaijan would have been totally taken over by Turks, Jihadists, Israelis and Westerners - and that would have been an existential threat to Armenia and Artsakh.
I don't expect our sheeple to understand any of this, which is why Western operatives in our society have been so successful.
There isn't any matter of losing Azerbaijan to Turkey, that's a given. Azerbaijan is willingly flirting with Russia, and Russia knowingly playing along. Azerbaijan does it so as not to totally antagonize the Bear and turn it against it; Russia plays along so as not to give up the last levers of influence it has on Azerbaijan. As long as Azerbaijan does not pursue the policy of Georgia, Russia will give them some space. otherwise, not only has Azerbaijan chosen turkey, but Azerbaijan is Turkey.
DeleteWell said, anonymous. I also want to make this point: I am inclined to think that the Turkish government and Western interests are somehow behind this latest aggression by Baku. I am inclined to think that the aforementioned may want to ignite a new hot spot on Russia's southern borders to divert Moscow's attention from Syria. For his part, Aliyev may also be seeking to divert attention from the so-called "Panama Papers".
DeleteBut, I did not see any serious condemnations of Baku by Moscow. I think there is more to Moscow's silence than simply wanting to look impartial. Therefore, in my opinion, Russian involvement, at least indirect involvement, cannot be totally ruled out at this time.
We know that Russia has always (since 1991) wanted deeper involvement in the region. We know Russia wants to station troops in Artsakh. We know Russia wants both Yerevan and Baku to be fully within its orbit. It's part of their "defensive depth" strategy. Some of you may recall that couple of years ago I said Moscow may make or allow Armenians and Azeris fight a limited war and then step in to settle matters and play peacemaker, therefore deepening its involvement in the strategic region. Arms deliveries to Baku may also be tied to this calculus. So, I am willing to entertain the idea that Moscow may be seeking to put pressure on Armenia to force it to abandon its ties with the West, and allow the positioning of Russian troops in Artsakh - essentially two things that Yerevan is TOTALLY against. From Moscow's perspective: Russia controls the situation on Armenia's western border, why not do the same on Armenia's eastern border. Moscow needs a larger and stronger Russian presence in the south Caucasus. If the region's three nation-states are not willing oblige, Moscow may create conditions that will help it realize its goal.
Therefore, was Moscow silently waiting to see if it could use the hostilities as an excuse to jump in? Something to think about.
Interesting development:
DeleteRussian armed forces start tactical exercises in Dagestan, near the Azeri border
http://www.arminfo.info/index.cfm?objectid=68B40500-FB28-11E5-8F470EB7C0D21663
This is very good.
DeleteUS & Turkey Shift Plans And Destabilize Relations Between Armenia & Azerbaijan: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=rSSR-GbJ54c&list=PLlhG4dcSGdhyjgqtkeLsUebctWFuUaXR3
More food for thought.
Another Hidden War: From the UK Column News: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hJoeU_33iTU
This is also a good source of information. It is Fort Russ and they don't mince their words.
Katehon Forecast: Nagorno-Karabakh Ceasefire will not last long: http://www.fort-russ.com/2016/04/katehon-forecast-nagorno-karabakh.html
The situation with drones is a bit disconcerting. Anyone paying attention has seen how good racing drones for hobbyists have gotten, and it is a common thought that drones will dramatically change the nature of warfare before long. As Armenia has a strong IT industry, shouldn't Yerevan be testing new and cheap systems as opposed to having to run to Moscow in a hurry to develop a response? They knew about the Israeli drones, right? Armenia doesn't have the oil, but does have enough brains, so one would expect a bit of a can-do and flexible spirit when it came to military operations. It is even possible that Armenia should be a leader in developing military drones - not on the high end, but with things like 3D printers and a frontline that regularly sees fighting, an Armenian company might succeed enough that the Russians would want to buy it or work with it.
DeleteHaving said this, we don't know much about what happened or what the NKR troops did or didn't do or what technologies they may have used.
Your thought that Yerevan is afraid is not so good. It isn't just Turkey that would notice it. It is the Western infrastructure inside Armenia. Part of their job is analyzing the profile of a country's leadership.
Moscow fucked up big time!
DeleteThey thought they had every thing under control and were best friends with the turks. Until of course the turk bit back and shot down a Russian jet. Now Moscow's stupid move with this licking turks ass and kissing baboon ass will bite Moscow. Sarkisian is in Germany, Russian leaders have come out saying we will not supply weapons to the baboons. This was a grand ass kissing by Moscow and it did not go according to plan. Like snakes turks will stab you in the back as soon as they can. As Putin said, this a "BACKSTAB". Correct Moscow welcome to your backstab. You back stabbed Armenia, thinking you were so wise, and now you are going to get stabbed. So Moscow where are the Pansir S systems for Armenia? At least you can do something no? This is what Stalin did with Hitler, and when Hitler stabbed in the back Stalin was in shock for 3 days.
Eurasian,
DeleteOur military performed very well, but they were obviously not prepared for these Israeli made kamakazi drones. From what I have gathered, at least several of our tanks were taken out by them. They also his a small bus carrying volunteers to the front lines, killing seven. I am sure Armenian and Russian military analysts are studying the matter. I have no doubt they will come up with countermeasures. I just hope it's done sooner than later because Azeris may feel like going at it again soon.
The Western elements throughout Armenian society are already screaming that "Russians stopped the Armenian counteroffensive to save Azerbaijan." Had Russians not stopped the fighting, they would have been screaming, "Russians allowed the fighting to continue so that more Armenians would die."
And the sheeple is eating it all up.
Western activists are also speaking loudly about the need for Armenia to begin purchasing Western arms - of course that also means borrowing a fortune from Western banks to do so. And now, President Sargsyan did something very stupid in Berlin.
PS: There is a lot of insanity going on around the world and I sometimes feel like throwing in the towel and disappearing.
This is a moment of truth for our Nation, Leaders and Armed Forces. Our prayers for our soldiers and for victory.
ReplyDeleteIn the meanwhile watch these 2 short interviews with Nikolai Starikov:
The end of Arab spring: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=iKErCNtRB74
Self-identifying terrorists: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wkGjraD6WXY
Alexander Prokhorenko. Russian Special Forces Commando hero. Last Words Transcript
Deletehttp://www.worldinwar.eu/russian-special-forces-commando-last-words-transcript-the-offensive-on-palmyra-25-03-2016/
A Russian lawyer wrote something beautiful about the NKR thought you guys would appreciate it.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.panorama.am/en/news/2016/04/05/Russian-lawyer-Artsakh/1557937
Thanks for posting that, the lawyer raised some profound points. Artsakh's borders are the strongest in Europe!
DeleteIt is inferred by sarkissian's statements in Germany that new weapons were tested during the 5 day Azeri assault on NkR, these were very effective by his candid admission. I wonder what is the political value of Serj appearing next to Merkel, an avowed fanatical turcophile, and lamenting the fact that we were fighting with 1980 type arms whilst the Azeries deployed their technological superior armament. Is Sarkissian pleading with whore Merkel for some kind of pity ? The impression conveyed was not reassuring. The AZ media is full of triumphalism, and they splash Sarkissian comments that " concessions will be made following the ceasefire ". The AZ war dept. is also making loud noises about having successfully captured " occupied" land and are reinforcing these positions. The Ukrainian posture of supporting turkey is deplorable, and the attitude of the bibulous Lukashenko equally disconcerting. As for Nazarbayev, a Mongol Turk , no comment. Many commentators, some of them govt. members, have made glib one liner statements about Russia having to decide between us and Az. As if implying we have other cards in our hands. We don't have a single other card to play. It is one thing to play diplomacy with the western enemy, and another trying to form close associations and memberships in their trecherous camps. Nalbandian spends most of his time shining western shoes. Is he a fm or a traveling tourist to western cities ? As for Russophobes, they are misguided , incompetent western in plants. The govt. is aware of this, but it's threshold of tolerance is so elastic as to border on national masochism. These implants are part of the so called Armenian democracy. Very soon the ballad of " the only democracy in the Caucasus" will be sung, in the quest to look nice and acceptable to the democratic dictatorships.
ReplyDeleteThis was a STUPID move by our government. Does President Sargsyan think he is putting "pressure" on Moscow by going to Anglo-American-Turco-Zionist occupied Germany and whining about Russia?! What's next, he is going to send more Armenian troops to do NATO exercises with Turkish troops... or expand the US embassy in Yerevan into the biggest in the world?
DeleteAt worst, he should have made this ill advised statement from Yerevan. At best, he and his staff should be figuring out ways to solve this problem with their Russian counterparts. At least make an effort to have Russians give Armenia more arms to off-set those they sell to Baku.
Let me put this in another way: Let's say the Russian Bear one day woke up in the morning and said - You know what, I'm done with these problematic Armenians; let Azeris take back Nagorno Karabakh, this will teach them stupid Armenians a lesson and it will lure Baku into my orbit.
Now, who in their fucking right minds think Germany or France or Britain or the US will come to Armenia's aid if Russia turned against us?
Well, apparently a lot of idiots in Yerevan do.
Folks, we are repeating the same stupid mistakes the ARF made between 1918 and 1921 when they failed to come to terms with the Bolsheviks - because they thought they had friends in the West.
Politics is a chess game. Those who play it well will live, those who don't will die. I think we are barely living at this point. I think the latest clash in Artsakh will give Armenians a false sense of security and strength. The last thing we need right now is empty bravado and an overestimation of our abilities. This latest clash was most probably a large probing attack. It was not a full scale war. We all know that Turkish/Azeri leadership don't care if they lose tens-of-thousands of lives as long as they achieve their objectives against us. Yes, our side fought well, but in the big picture, if we don't have the Bear on our side, we will lose this fight and lose it very badly. Going to the West and bitching and whining about Russia is not going to help.
What we must understand is that Russians right now are operating in FULL REALPOLITIK mode. For them, everything right now is pure calculus. They know that the entire Eurasian continent is one bad incident away from a third world war and they are doing their best to manage the situation, and here we are acting like typical mountain dwellers.
Think: If Russia was to stop selling arms to Baku, it would essentially be a SYMBOLIC measure because Baku can get modern arms elsewhere. Azeri money will go to Turkey, Israel, Ukraine, Pakistan, China. Will that be better? Why are we demanding that Russia abandon all its geostrategic plans (e.g. it's desire to maintain leverage over Baku which is good for us) for SYMBOLIC reasons which will in real terms do no good for us? It's like we just want to tell the world: See, our friend doesn't deal with our enemy!
So fucking childish... it's almost like "political thinking" one sees in places like "HyeClub".
I disagree, it wouldn't be symbolic. There is no alternative for land based war systems that Azerbaijan gets. If Azerbaijan fielded western systems, they would have less of them, spent more money on them, and wouldn't know how to use them.
DeleteRussian sales to Azerbaijan is in the same political vector as Russian tourists in Turkey, Russians investing in Turkish manufacturing. Essentially Russia building Turkey into its own anti-Russian buffer. Responsible for this are Russian elites who were doing this under the direction of their masters in the west. One man Putin is not Moscow. His job is extremely difficult when he is surrounded by cadres in many positions that continue to undermine his work. He has gotten rid of some by way of promotion, he is trying to make the others work for the interests of Russia.
So all this talk about Armenians flirting with the west and so on... Armenia is in no position to stop "whining" to the west and declare ultimate loyalty to Russia, because Russia herself doesn't have ultimate loyalty to Russia. It is not a globally sovergn and independent state. Putin's vector of development is to go there, the west will never accept it and will not allow Russia to go that way without a bloody fight, therefore they are activating everything. patience.
The only thing Armenians can do is "perform very well" on the battlefield. Statements in Germany don't matter, especially we don't even know what kind of exchanges there were in private between Russia and Armenia.