People don't normally wake up one day and simply decide to take to the streets en masse just because their government has made a decision they don't like. For a mass political protest to take place, in a hotly contested nation nonetheless, you need three essential ingredients: A motivation, a well organized network of activists and of course high level individuals capable of pulling financial and/or political strings.
The motivation in Kiev is clearly there, I will briefly describe the deep rooted anti-Russian sentiments of many Ukrainian nationalists and liberals later in this commentary. The organizers in Kiev are there, a not so little army of Western funded and led NGOs, independent journalists, rights advocates, political activists, clergymen and government officials. And we also know that there are high level policymakers in various power centers around the world that would love to drive a permanent wedge between Ukraine and Russia purely for geostrategic reasons.
These are the three basic factors that are taking the sheeple to the streets in Kiev. These are the factors that can start a civil war or attempt a violent coup d'état if the movement's organizers, masterminds and financiers conclude that the reaction from Moscow will be weak or something that they can afford to risk. To put it in other words, if the ringleaders of these protests are made to fear a serious Russian reprisal, they may not be foolish enough incite large scale violence or seek a forceful overthrow of the government in Kiev.
Therefore, much is riding on how Moscow handles this situation.
Kiev and Moscow need to be very careful with the way they are dealing with these protests. The best course for Ukrainian and Russian officials to take would be to do what they are doing now: Take a step back, resort to soft power and allow these protests to run their natural course, all the while keeping a tight control over the situation by closely monitoring the activities of the country's Western funded NGOs, political activists and journalists of news organizations.
Under no circumstances should there be a disproportionate use of violence against protesters. A violent overreaction by the authorities is what Western powers are actually hoping for.
However, in addition to a well calculated and soft approach vis-à-vis Kiev, Russian officials need to begin posturing aggressively against Western interests elsewhere to divert attention.
Ultimately, the battle for Ukraine is a battle the West will lose. For the West, severing Ukraine from Russia is purely a geostrategic measure (a method of weakening Russian power inside Europe) that if push comes to shove, it can live without accomplishing it. For Moscow, keeping the Ukraine within its political and economic orbit is almost a matter of life and death for the Russian state. In other words, Moscow will resort to all measures to ensure Kiev remains within its orbit. Therefore, Ukraine's fate as part of a Russian-led political and economic pact has been predetermined. Everything else at this point is simply a matter of how to get there.
Ever since the Varangian Grand Prince Vladimir the Great of Kievan Rus was baptized into the Christian Orthodox faith upon his marriage to Byzantine Princess Anna Porphyrogenita (the sister of Basil II, the world famous Byzantine-Armenian Emperor also known as the "Bulgar-slayer") sometime around the year 988 AD, the territories of Kievan Rus (roughly the regions of modern day Ukraine, Belarus and European Russia) have been the cradle of Russian civilization.
For the past one thousand years, Russia has been Ukraine, Ukraine has been Russia. So, how is it that there has been so much anti-Russian sentiments in Ukraine as of late?
Let's stop blaming Russians for Bolshevism
At various times throughout its history western parts of the Ukraine have been occupied by Vatican-led European powers: Poland in particular. Because of its history situated on a border between western Europe and the Russian heartland, Ukraine has evolved into a deeply divided state with two relatively distinct nations living within one political body. Consequently, modern Ukraine is a nation that is roughly half west-leaning, comprised primarily of Ukrainian Orthodox and Catholic and half east-leaning, comprised primarily of Russian Orthodox Slavs - if not by actual faith then by heritage. The western half of the country identify more with Poles, Moldovans and Slovaks than with Russians.
More significantly, it should also be mentioned that Ukraine is also a nation that has had terrible troubles under Bolshevik rule: Many millions dead during the "Holodomor" famines of the early 1930s has left a terrible imprint on the minds of many Ukrainians. There was also of course the harsh treatment of western Ukrainians by Joseph Stalin's Moscow during and in the aftermath of the Second World War due to their collaborations with Nazi Germany.
I believe the Bolshevik/Stalinian stain on Russian-Ukrainian relations is the psychology behind what has been happening in Kiev recently.
The vivid memory of the horrors of Bolshevism has spawned the anti-Russian hate many Ukrainians feel these days. This is the demographics, in union with Westernized liberals, we are seeing protesting on the streets. I personally think Ukraine's West-leaning population's EU drive is rooted more in their hate for Russians than in their love for the EU. Unfortunately, within the mindsets of the Ukrainian sheeple today (as well as sheeple around the world), no differentiation is made between the Bolshevik regime and ethnic Russians.
Long after their demise, Bolsheviks are still tarnishing Russia's image and straining its relations with its neighbors.
And as a consequence of nearly one hundred years of the Anglo-American-Zionist establishment's anti-Russian propaganda, for hundreds of millions of people around the world: Bolshevism and communism = Russian.
Therefore, for many Ukrainians, ethnic Russians (Orthodox Christian Slavs) are the enemy - never mind that Bolshevism was imported into Russia to destroy the Russian Empire, never mind that Russian Slavs suffered just as terribly under Bolshevik rule as Ukrainians.
Please revisit the following three blog commentaries about Bolshevism and Russia -
Stalin's Jews and the Bolshevik Revolution (July, 2010): http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/2010/11/im-glad-that-gruesome-story-of-katyn.html
Assassination of Pyotr Stolypin (September, 2012): http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/2012/09/assassination-of-pyotr-stolypin.html
Once again, for it can't be stressed enough: Bolshevism was imported into Russian Empire to destroy it. Bolshevism was everything Russia was not. The horrors of Bolshevik reign during the 1920s and 1930s were unprecedented in the number of deaths it caused and the amount of wealth it stole. Bolsheviks remain by far the world's greatest criminals and murders. The only thing "Russian" about the Bolshevik movement in Russia was the language they spoke.Medvedev Condemns Stalin’s Russia, Russians may finally bury Lenin (May, 2011): http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/2011/05/medvedev-condemns-stalins-russia.html
There is another very important historical nuance that escapes most people: If there was anything at all positive about the outcome of the Second World War, it was was seeing Bolshevism/Communism transform itself.
Allow me to explain what I mean.
It was only due to the patriotic fervor brought upon by the Great Patriotic War (and to some extent, Stalin's wide scale political purges prior to the war) that the Soviet Union began taking on an ethnic Russian face. Simply put, the Second World War caused the 'Russification' of Communism. In my opinion, the positive aspects of Communism many of us are familiar with today come from this period of Russification. Therefore, it could be argued that Nazism did actually defeat Bolshevism by indirectly helping Russians rise in its ranks and eventually take over control in the Kremlin.
Nevertheless, blaming "Russians" (Christian Slavs) for the unspeakable evils of Bolshevism is like blaming the hapless victim for the actions of the rabid criminal.
While the Russian nation is beginning to discuss this controversial topic publicly in recent years, it is very unfortunate that Russian officials have not made a direct, concerted effort in addressing the points I have raised here. I do not think that Russian officials yet understand that the stain of Bolshevism is still casting a very dark shadow over Russian state, and I do not think they appreciate the long term value of trying to finally distance themselves from Russia's Bolshevik past by revealing the truths behind Bolshevism.
Why is the Ukraine so important for the West?
Getting back to the battle for Ukraine: We also need to take into close consideration that Ukraine is a European country that physically shares a border with the European Union. Taking advantage of the aforementioned sociopolitical factors, Ukraine has been diligently worked on by a very wide array of Western led and funded operatives, political activists, rights advocates, independent journalists, feminist movements, gay movements, NGOs, etc, for two full decades.
Western powers are exploiting Kiev in their geostrategic drive to expand NATO into historically recognized Russian territories via their multinational theme-park known as the European Union.
Why is Ukraine so important?
Well, for anyone that has seen a map of the region where the country is located, it should be quite obvious. But, in any case, I''ll allow one of America's most influential foreign policymakers to tell us why:
"Without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be an empire, but with Ukraine suborned and then subordinated, Russia automatically becomes an empire. But if Russia becomes an empire, it cannot be a democracy at the same time. We might add that an imperial Russia will be forced to abandon economic reform in favor of central planning"
Zbigniew Brzezinski, in a 1993 Foreign Affairs articleYou see, it's all about Russia. It's not about Ukraine's "democratic" future, it's about weakening Russia. As America's most infamous Polak candidly points out, Russia is enormously more powerful with the territory of Ukraine within its fold and considerably weakened without it. The Polak also goes on to suggest that the West is concerned about Moscow not following through at the time with its promised "economic reforms". Mind you that "economic reforms" is code name for turning one's economic and financial system under Anglo-American-Zionist control. And for much of the 1990s, the West had actually succeeded in subverting Russia's post-Soviet economy and financial institutions through forced reforms and Western backed Jewish-Russian oligarchs.
Simply put, Ukraine is a major geostrategic prize for the political West.
In other words, Western powers want to secure their Slavic buffer states (namely Poland and Ukraine) as a way of creating defensive depth against the Russian state, as well as a way of containing and/or weakening Moscow's geopolitical authority west of the Urals.
Western powers have historically recognized the Russian state as their number one geopolitical competitor on the global stage. With a resurgent Russia making a global comeback in recent years, there has therefore been an air of urgency in various power centers Western world. In a strong sense, this is a race against time for the Western establishment and this Western push into eastern Europe and Russia can be likened to a new "Operation Barbarossa", thus far without all the guns.
I can only hope that Moscow is getting ready a new Operation Bagration of its own.
Nevertheless, let's make no mistake about it, the situation in the Ukraine is very serious indeed. The country has been turned into a volatile powder keg. Although I'm glad that Kiev and Moscow have taken a step back in trying to defuse the situation, my main concern is that Western powers will continue fomenting large scale civil unrest within this deeply divided country. Needless to say, Western incitement, which is clearly what Western assets throughout Ukraine are doing, runs the risk of a bloody civil war, to which Moscow may respond to by militarily annexing the strategic Crimea (a contingency military operation which Moscow is ready to carry-out at a moment's notice).
Here we see Henry Kissinger, another one of the Anglo-American-Zionist global order's veteran policymakers sounding the alarm at the way the political West has been handling the crisis in the Ukraine -
It's important to point out that the likes of Kissinger (and Brzezinski) represent the Western world's old school approach in empire building: Cautious, systematic, strategic, covert, indirect and nuanced. Such men are fundamentally opposed to the Western world's post-Soviet "neocon" approach to international relations: Overt, arrogant, in your face, blatant, aggressive, loud, etc. Therefore, the old war criminal is sounding the alarm about the way Washington is currently pursuing the Western world's age-old policy of containing Russia. In other words, the empire's old guard, its political elite, is worried about a Russian backlash. As mentioned above, one of the Russian backlashes can be the annexation of the Crimea. I personally want to see the Crimea going back to Russia but Moscow will make such a move only as a last resort, that is if Ukraine is on the verge of a major split.Henry Kissinger on Fareed Zakaria interview! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oo3f9qBGXLY
Now that we have briefly taken a look at why Ukraine is important for Russia and the West, there is yet another question that needs to be answered: What is the West's problem with Russia? After all, the Soviet Union has been dead for well over twenty-years now. Why do Western policymakers continue conspiring against Russia?
What's Washington's problem with Moscow?
The United States of America and the Russian Empire had very good relations throughout much of the 19th century. The two powers in question complimented each other in the geopolitics of the time. Although American students are not thought this in their schools for obvious reasons, there were in fact times in the 19th century when Saint Petersburg and Washington were politically allied against British Empire. This close friendship between the US and Russia at the time was vividly reflected in the sale of Russian-Alaska to Americans.
In my opinion, this genuine Russo-American friendship effectively came to an end when the British Empire and the United States began merging (or as some Brits say, London handed its empire to Washington) beginning in the late 19th century. Thereafter, one of the Anglo-American establishment's perennial targets has been the Russian state. In fact, for much of the 20th century, the following slogan has more-or-less been the geostrategic motto of the Anglo-American-Zionist policymakers:
In other words, for the Western political/financial establishment, the US has been used as a bulldog for keeping in check Eurasia's two most powerful nations. When one gives this geostrategic formula some serious thought, everything that has taken place in the political world during the last century or so will begin making much better sense.Keep America in, Russia out, Germany down
Nevertheless, by the 1950s and 1960s, when as noted above Communism had been thoroughly Russified, anti-Russian sentiments within political circles in the Western world had begun to grow to new heights. Then, the sudden disappearance of the Soviet Union some twenty years ago provided the West with a historic opportunity to become the world's premiere hyperpower. The political West quite suddenly came to the realization that it no long had a geopolitical rival in the Middle East, Europe, Asia, Africa or South America.
This realization, that it is the top predator in a unipolar world, lies at the root causes of the wars we have witnessed in Iraq, Sudan, Serbia, Afghanistan, Libya and Syria, as well as the campaign against Iran and NATO's expansion eastward during the past twenty years.
Here we see one of the most important cogs in the US war machine candidly talking about Washington's agenda in a post-Soviet world:
Wesley Clark, in a speech given on October 3, 2007
Since the Soviet collapse, the Anglo-American-Zionist order has been busy seeking to preserve its place on top of the global food-chain. They simply do not want any new kids on the block to compete with their hegemony. As General Clark stated, its been a Western rush to hegemonize the world - "before the next great superpower comes to challenge us".
Perhaps this is why humanity is gradually coming to recognition that the US is the biggest threat to world peace -
Biggest Threat to World Peace: The United States: http://rinf.com/alt-news/breaking-news/biggest-threat-to-world-peace-the-united-states/
Being that Russia and China pose the only long-term global threats for them, it is rather easy to see that their two main targets have been Moscow and Beijing. But because Beijing has been stuck in a symbiotic economic relationship with Washington (which may in fact explain why Washington has encouraged American businesses to open shop in China during the past forty years), the West has been placing most of its emphasis on undermining the Russian state instead.
Sometime during the 1990s, former U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright is believed to have stated that the natural wealth found in the vastness of the Russian Federation was too much for one country to posses. The implications of her words were quite obvious, especially for Russians -
Putin warns of outside forces that wish to split Russia and take over its natural resources (2007): http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/2009/02/putin-warns-of-outside-forces-that-wish.html
To the dismay of Western officials, the Russian state today may be the only truly independent political entity on earth. All this explains why Western leaders were expecting Russia to "reform" its economy and why they have been diligently trying to import "Democracy" into the multiethnic country. For Western policymakers, Russia must be contained and/or isolated at all costs. And they have been diligently working on this agenda by funding subversive groups throughout Russia's very diverse society, as well as surrounding Russia with West-leaning buffer states and military installations. In other words, yes, Washington's missile defense shield is actually aimed against Russia -
U.S. missile defense in Europe 'real threat' to Russia (June, 2011): http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/2011/06/us-missile-defense-in-europe-real.html
As we saw in Georgia in 2008 and more recently in Syria, the Russian state has valiantly taken its fight to the West by drawing red lines in places where Moscow considers areas of strategic interests. Moscow has definitely stepped into a world leadership role -
It is encouraging to know that after suffering setback after setback, Moscow has managed to rebound in recent years and has been able to draw a red line in the south Caucasus, Central Asia, the Middle East and now in the Ukraine. The Russian state is on the rise, and barring any unforeseen catastrophic events like a major meteor strike on Moscow, the Russian state will be one of the premiere powers of the world in the 21st century.Russia Steps Into World Leadership Role (September, 2013 ): http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/2013/09/russia-steps-into-world-leadership-role.html
But we can't be complacent because the Great Game is not yet over.
Western puppeteers continue to have the advantage, for they continue enjoying the faithful services of sheeple in various targeted nations across the world. The Western propaganda machine - multipronged, fine tuned and highly sophisticated with a century of experience behind it - is still the number one Social Engineering force in the world. Therefore, the material lure of the Western world and the popular hype associated with Western "values" will not be easy to fight let alone destroy.
Under the banners of "democracy", "freedom", "fight against corruption", "human rights", "nature protection" and "civil society", there are hordes of neo-Bolshevik armies invading and undermining targeted nations around the world today.
Democracy is not a panacea
Prosperity, political stability and Democracy are not interrelated: Never has been, never will be. Democracy may in fact be the worst form of government in existence today. It's actually disturbing how some well-meaning idiots these days talk about “Democracy” as if it’s a drug: Just take it and you’ll be fine, we are told. Well, come to think of it, it is a drug. But the problem is that it is a very toxic drug, one that has hallucinatory and at times deadly side effects.
The kind of Democracy being promoted by Western powers around the world in recent decades - with its system of beliefs known as Free Trade, Westernization or Globalism - are for the Western world today what religion used to be for European powers during the past one thousand years, and what Roman civilization and Hellenism was in the preceding centuries: A means of manipulation, control, subjugation, exploitation and when needed, destruction. In fact, knowing how destructive Democracy can be for developing nations is exactly why Western powers have been prescribing it to developing nations. Reminder: They do not want competition!
Ask yourselves, what has Western Democracy brought to Afghanistan, Iraq, Libya, Egypt and Syria in recent years? The answer is, utter chaos and destruction! What has Western Democracy brought to Europe? The answer is economic instability, decadence, the lose of identity and the very decline of western and European civilization! And India, touted as the "largest Democracy" on earth, is a cesspool of corruption and despair.
What about Democracy in Western nations?
The political West (those who do most of the Democracy drug peddling around the world, as well as conventional narcotics peddling but that's another story for another time) is actually very far from being an actual Democracy. Therefore, the West is not what it preaches to be. Western official know better than allowing their masses any say in politics. Western nations are ruled by an elite-based political/financial system where top level military leaders, government officials and financial executives make major decisions independent of their "voters" wishes. More on "Democracy" in the US -
Western nations, as well as every single prosperous nation in existence today, got to the height they are today through authoritarian rule. Western powers, in particular, also got to where they are today through institutionalized corruption, genocide, slavery, exploitation and global wars for power and plunder. How did the "people" live in the elite-based political systems in the US or Britain in the 19th century? There are quite a few literary works about the unspeakable plight of the masses in both countries at the time. The point I am trying to make is that it was only after their militaristic rise to the top of the world in the second half of the 20th century that the Western elite began giving a little back to the people to keep them complacent. It is only after their rise, however, that they could afford to play with limited forms of Democracy. But corruption has never left Western nations. In fact, Western powers, US and Britain in particular, are amongst the world's most corrupt regimes but the Social Engineered sheeple do not notice it because much of the corruption in question is institutionalized.The two ring circus called the American presidential elections (January 2013): http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/2013/01/the-two-ring-circus-called-american.html
In other words, in stark contrast with the rest of the world, corruption in the West is strictly reserved for their political and financial elite.
Despite their touting, "Democracy" or "freedom" has never had much to do with the Western world's rise to global power and prosperity.
The US was an experiment that worked well primarily because of the following factors: Aggressive, libertarian minded, well organized and very resourceful European settlers (mostly of Germanic decent) found a land that was massive, naturally wealthy, protected by oceans and free for the taking. These settlers then managed to reach economic prosperity through an elite-based and Masonic system that carried out genocide, slavery, exploitation and wars for plunder and influence around the world.
The US was founded by a very intelligent group of people who saw themselves as part of an elitist system. The US today continues to be an elite-based political/financial system. The US has historically been a nation where the top one percent (historically made up of the nation's WASP caste) has thoroughly dominated the rest of the 99%. However, the American citizenry, the 99%, has been better managed in recent decades through the provision of bare-essentials (i.e. low paying jobs and government assistance), entertainment (i.e. proliferation of television programing, celebrity worship, cinema and sports) and mind control methods in the form of information control through the controlled mainstream news press and school curriculum.
Before the leadership of a developing countries are capable of allowing their citizenry to safely participate in the nation's political processes, political system in the country first needs to develop well established national institutions and only a tidy number of domestically funded political parties that are subservient to them. Before a government can allow its people a limited say in political matters, it also needs a well conditioned citizenry.
Therefore, Democracy is not a panacea: It is a dangerous drug. A nation cannot risk playing with Democracy when the nation is culturally not ready and politically immature. A nation cannot risk playing with Democracy when it does not have a democratic tradition or lacks powerful national institutions. A nation cannot risk playing with Democracy when it is still developing. As mentioned above, powerful national institutions overseeing and sometimes directly guiding the so-called "democratic process" in a political system is exactly how the Western world is currently run. Developing nations in the post-Soviet space are in no shape to risk playing with such a drug.
In their transitional phase, developing nations need authoritarian leaders and patient and patriotic populations. For example: Russia and China - one a multi-party top heavy government, the other a one party authoritarian government - have some of the fastest growing middle class and national GDP in the world. Until post-Soviet nations like Armenia or Ukraine mature as nation-states, such nations also need top heavy, authoritarian governments with patriotic men in power. In the meanwhile, may God help protect nations from Democracy and all it's street peddlers.
Once more, in the Western world, the practice of Democracy is tightly controlled by its deeply entrenched elite. The so-called Democratic processes in places like the United States or United Kingdom will never be allowed to get outside their clearly defined parameters. We cannot make the mistake of associating Democracy with Western power or wealth.
The global menace
Very similar to what the Vatican had done for centuries with Catholicism, the Western alliance today is using a new form of global religion known as "Democracy" and/or "Globalism" to either make or break nations around the world. Similar to Christian emperors of the past, "democratic" emperors of today are deciding who lives and who dies. As in medieval times, false notions are being spread within human society in order to better manage it... or to simply exploit it.
Similar to what imperial powers did in the past with religion, the very notion of Democracy and human-rights today have been weaponized by Washington.
As a matter of fact, everything today is becoming weaponized by Washington. Money is weaponized. Religion and religious cults are weaponized. Energy is weaponized. Food is weaponized. Atheism is weaponized. Scientific research is weaponized. Gay rights is weaponized. Feminism is weaponized. The news is weaponized. Entertainment is weaponized. Humanitarian aid is weaponized. The English language is weaponized. Globalism is weaponized. Fighting corruption is weaponized. Anything and everything that can in anyway be used against a targeted nation for a political and/or economic purpose is systematically becoming weaponized by Washington.
Which brings me to the now oft asked question: How has the political West become so powerful?
In the big picture, we the sheeple are at fault!
Simply put: If we desperately want to learn their language; if we want to sing their songs; if we want to dance to their music; if we want to watch their films; if we want to dress like them; if we want to eat like them; if we want to trade in their currency; if we seek to get our information from their sources; if we dream of living in their countries; if we dream of attending their universities; if we dream of working for their institutions; if we enthusiastically want to emulate their political system... then how can we ever think of them as the enemy?!
Here is a related blog commentary -
Thus, their hold over humanity is essentially a psychological one. Our willing, often subconscious submission to anything and everything Western today (Anglo-American in particular) is exactly how they are easily succeeding in invading and subverting targeted nations around the world.How the West prepares operatives (January, 2012): http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/2012/01/how-west-prepares-operatives-january.html
For instance, when a Western official visits a developing nation and the natives there fall allover themselves to impress the visiting guest, the Western operation in that nation is already mostly a success. When the Whore of Babylon recently visited Yerevan, she did not need to speak a single word in Armenian, she did not feel the need to ask her friends in Baku to stop killing Armenian soldiers on the border, she did not feel the need to pay her respects at the genocide memorial, she did not feel the need to do or say anything positive or constructive about Armenia... She simply handed out medals to her many active mercenaries in the country. Despite her unholiness's overt and often blatant anti-Armenianism, Armenians bent-over-backwards to kiss her filthy behind -
Whore of Babylon in Yerevan (June, 2012): http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/2012/06/whore-of-babylon-in-yerevan-june-2012.html
As I have reiterated in numerous previous occasions, the West has carefully crafted for itself unprecedented control over humanity as a result of the two world wars in the first half of the 20th century and as a result of the rise and fall of the Soviet Union. For the past seventy years, Western officials have been busy creating levers to monopolize the global economy and the distribution of global commodities; impose their financial system on the global community; impose their trade currency; impose their laws; and, more importantly, control what the global masses sees, reads and hears through music, films and propaganda outlets disguised as news organizations.
The unexpected dissolution of the Soviet Union in the late 1980s served to propel Western power and influence to heights never before seen in world history. Consequently, for the past twenty years the Western world has enjoyed an unprecedented financial, economic, cultural and psychological hold over humanity.
With the imposition of their English-language driven new religion known as Globalism the civilized world, European/Christian civilization in particular, is being systematically broken apart.
The imposition of Globalism upon humanity is destroying the traditional family unit; marginalizing patriotism; weakening ethnic and racial identity; undermining apostolic Christianity; and eroding the very foundations of the traditional nation-state.
Without God (i.e without religion and moral guidance); without country (i.e. without nationalism and/or ethnic/racial identity); and without family (i.e. without having an extended genetic support structure to which one belongs to) - man is nothing but a instinct driven animal easily manipulated by those controlling the global levers.
Thus, Globalization or Westernization is the tool with which the political West conditions and manages the global sheeple and attempts to lead them towards enslavement. A "global citizen", a very Bolshevik-like title today's world's so-called "progressive" sheeple take pride in being is nothing but a thoroughly enslaved animal at the mercy of the Globalist (i.e. Western) elite.
Ideal Illusions
Regardless of how beneficial or even necessary they may seem at first glance, any movement that has any form of Western-backing or is spearheaded by Western-led or inspired activists need to be categorically rejected by all of humanity.
For years, I have been sounding the alarm that imperial interests in Washington have co-opted and weaponized sociopolitical issues and are currently exploiting them towards self-serving political gains.
For years, I have been warning my audience that accepting help, in any form, from the political West comes with dangerous strings attached, conditions that developing nations such as Armenia or the Ukraine cannot meet. I ask you to refer to a book by James Peck regarding this very important topic for our era -
"Devastating and deeply disturbing, this book lays bare any lingering illusions that human rights concerns seriously influence U.S. policy."—Andrew J. Bacevich, author of Washington Rules
The United States has long been hailed as a powerful force for global human rights. Now, drawing on thousands of documents from the CIA, the National Security Council, the Pentagon, and development agencies, James Peck shows in blunt detail how Washington has shaped human rights into a potent ideological weapon for purposes having little to do with rights—and everything to do with furthering America's global reach. Using the words of Washington's leaders when they are speaking among themselves, Peck tracks the rise of human rights from its dismissal in the cold war years as "fuzzy minded" to its calculated adoption, after the Vietnam War, as a rationale for American foreign engagement. He considers such milestones as the fight for Soviet dissidents, Tiananmen Square, and today's war on terror, exposing in the process how the human rights movement has too often failed to challenge Washington's strategies. A gripping and elegant work of analysis, Ideal Illusions argues that the movement must break free from Washington if it is to develop a truly uncompromising critique of power in all its forms.
Now, to place the enlightening book featured above into a better, more complete perspective, juxtaposed its message with the following book titled "From Dictatorship to Democracy".
Unlike the previous book's author, this particular book was written by an American with a Western/Globalist political agenda. Unlike the previous book's intent, this work by Gene Sharp is essentially meant to be a step-by-step blueprint for revolution and its primary target (i.e. those it is trying to bait) are the large numbers of freaks and self-destructive peasantry in all developing nations around the world these days -
From Dictatorship to Democracy was a pamphlet, printed and distributed by Dr Gene Sharp and based on his study, over a period of forty years, on non-violent methods of demonstration. Now in its fourth edition, it was originally handed out by the Albert Einstein Institution, and although never actively promoted, to date it has been translated into thirty-one languages. This astonishing book travelled as a photocopied pamphlet from Burma to Indonesia, Serbia and most recently Egypt, Tunisia and Syria, with dissent in China also reported. Surreptitiously handed out amongst youth uprisings the world over - how the 'how-to' guide came about and its role in the recent Arab uprisings is an extraordinary tale. Once read you'll find yourself urging others to read it and indeed want to gift it.
When Western financed civic organizations gather their diverse operatives to form networks and workshops and make global connections during their annual conventions, these are the types of publications they disseminate and this is the kind of inspiration at work behind their actions.
We must for once recognize that virtually every single societal matter found around the world today - be it Islamic militancy or gay rights or planned parenthood or nature protection - is ultimately being financed, controlled and/or exploited by Western imperial interests.
As the first book by James Peck courageously suggests: Sociopolitical movements of the world today must first break free of Western control if they are to be safely embraced by developing societies.
The world revered "pop culture" produced by the special-interests backed Jewish saturated entertainment industry of the United States and Britain for the latter half of the past century is fundamentally based on three principals: materialism, sex and violence.
Not surprisingly, these are the three basic elements that appeal to the lowest aspect of human nature. Look at any pro-West activist anywhere in the world today and you will see either a freak, an idiot or an animal.
Anglo-American pop culture appeals to the primordial/animalistic side of human nature. Moreover, because it naturally lacks intellect, spirituality, sophistication or cultural refinement, Western pop culture is rather easily disseminated within the masses via its globalized language, music, literature, fashion, motion pictures, television programing and radio talk shows.
Be it the violence and/or the debauchery we are constantly exposed to by Hollywood films, be it the American "gangsta rap" music youth around the world listens to today or the excessively bloody electronic simulation games that tens-of-millions of children play today - materialism, killing and sex is a major theme in Western pop culture.
One of the secrets of Western style democracy is this: Western officials realize that by utilizing the powerful levers (i.e. political operatives, finance, trade, social media, news press, international organizations and pop culture) they have cultivated and refined for many decades, they can impose their cultural "values" and sociopolitical agendas throughout the world.
Using such levers under their control, they have managed to harness the world's surplus of idiots, deviants and freaks and are currently manipulating them towards grand geostrategic pursuits. They know that dealing directly with a targeted nation's sheeple can be much more effective than dealing with the same nation's uncooperative leadership or its intelligentsia. Therefore, Western style democracy is also a clever method of by-passing a nation's leadership and dealing directly with the nation's self-destructive masses.
Using powerful levers they can rally "freedom loving" peasantry around the world. And as we have been seeing for quite a few years now, post Soviet nations unfortunately have more than the normal share of politically ignorant peasantry for the West to manipulate and exploit.
As author Stephen Kinzer reveals in his latest book "The Brothers", the more free or open a society, the more vulnerable it is to Western manipulation and exploitation:
"[The Dulles brothers] were able to succeed [at regime change] in Iran and Guatemala because those were democratic societies, they were open societies. They had free press; there were all kinds of independent organizations; there were professional groups; there were labor unions; there were student groups; there were religious organizations. When you have an open society, it's very easy for covert operatives to penetrate that society and corrupt it."
Stephen Kinzer in NPR Radio Interview: http://pd.npr.org/anon.npr-mp3/npr/fa/2013/10/20131016_fa_01.mp3?dl=1
When we put all the global unrest taking place in the world today under a microscope, we will find Washington and friends pulling the strings of most of them. With a full array of powerful levers at their disposal the political West manages the world's control board. The sheeple around the world may be rebelling and protesting for very legitimate reasons, but their sheppards are in one way or another carrying out orders of the Anglo-American-Zionist alliance -
Revolution Engineering: US know-how and 'colourful' technology: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Z0xlOeZ8Dr8&feature=plcp
CIA on Facebook and Twitter: Wayne Madsen on info warfare: http://www.youtube.com/user/RussiaToday#p/u/10/d3WY7QtVnyI
NGOs, an extension of US foreign policy: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-raqX4KKY1Q
Internet nuke bomb waiting to go off: http://www.youtube.com/user/RussiaToday#p/search/20/VO45VBO6Swo
Assange: Facebook, Google, Yahoo spying tools for US intelligence: http://www.youtube.com/user/RussiaToday#p/u/17/Hp8rJVWC2a0
CFR Meeting: Zbigniew Brzezinski Speech (2010): http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HEHsUojUgzk
Washington on the War Path: CivilSociety as Battering-Ram: http://rt.com/politics/washington-war-russia-putin-023/
What's clear is that we are truly living in very troubling times. This is one of the pivotal points in human history. How humanity will come out of this period is anyone's guess. Never before had the world's population been this large. Never before had food and energy production been this strained. Never before had so many regions of the world been simultaneously this explosive - militarily, politically and economically. Never before had a single political force held this much global power and influence.
The following are remarkable comments made by Zbigniew Brzezinski:
The Global Political Awakening
For the first time in human history almost all of humanity is politically activated, politically conscious and politically interactive... The resulting global political activism is generating a surge in the quest for personal dignity, cultural respect and economic opportunity in a world painfully scarred by memories of centuries-long alien colonial or imperial domination... The worldwide yearning for human dignity is the central challenge inherent in the phenomenon of global political awakening... That awakening is socially massive and politically radicalizing... The nearly universal access to radio, television and increasingly the Internet is creating a community of shared perceptions and envy that can be galvanized and channeled by demagogic political or religious passions. These energies transcend sovereign borders and pose a challenge both to existing states as well as to the existing global hierarchy, on top of which America still perches... The youth of the Third World are particularly restless and resentful. The demographic revolution they embody is thus a political time-bomb, as well...
Their potential revolutionary spearhead is likely to emerge from among the scores of millions of students concentrated in the often intellectually dubious "tertiary level" educational institutions of developing countries. Depending on the definition of the tertiary educational level, there are currently worldwide between 80 and 130 million "college" students. Typically originating from the socially insecure lower middle class and inflamed by a sense of social outrage, these millions of students are revolutionaries-in-waiting, already semi-mobilized in large congregations, connected by the Internet and pre-positioned for a replay on a larger scale of what transpired years earlier in Mexico City or in Tiananmen Square. Their physical energy and emotional frustration is just waiting to be triggered by a cause, or a faith, or a hatred...
[The] major world powers, new and old, also face a novel reality: while the lethality of their military might is greater than ever, their capacity to impose control over the politically awakened masses of the world is at a historic low. To put it bluntly: in earlier times, it was easier to control one million people than to physically kill one million people; today, it is infinitely easier to kill one million people than to control one million people.
Zbigniew Brzezinski - Former U.S. National Security Advisor; Member of Council on Foreign Relations; Co-Founder of the Trilateral Commission Member, Board of Trustees; Center for Strategic and International StudiesThere you have it, folks. Right from the source. But is anybody listening? A better question would be, does anybody care or understand? Looking at the undereducated, underfed and underemployed masses around the world, Brzezinski said -
"[the sheeple's] physical energy and emotional frustration is just waiting to be triggered by a cause, or a faith, or a hatred".
In other words, using your global levers, always be ready to either incite unrest when need be or simply exploit unrest that may spontaneously arise. This formula naturally applies to political unrest as well as economic unrest. And remember all this when watching unrest - political and/or economic - in places such as Ukraine, Russia, Armenia, Syria, Iran, Egypt, Turkey, Greece, Venezuela...
It's also interesting to note here that Western officials like Brzezinski look at their "activists" around the world as coming from "often intellectually dubious tertiary level educational institutions of developing countries". In other words, the army of Ukrainian or Armenian "rights advocates", "political activists" and "independent journalists" that are enthusiastically serving Western powers for truth justice and the American way (as well as of course a few US Dollars via Western grants) and they are looked at by their Western puppet-masters as nothing more than cannon-fodder... or primitive natives.
As long as we continue looking up to the Western world and adoringly adopt their cultural elements, we will continue remaining at their mercy. As I have pointed out earlier in this commentary, it is precisely our political ignorance and our personal preferences that has turned the political West into the monster that it is today.
Humanity will only cure itself of Globalism when evil vermin from Washington and London are barred from entering civilized nations around the world. Humanity will only cure itself when the global commodities exchange is taken away from Anglo-American-Jewish control. Humanity will only begin curing itself when financial levers are taken away from Western control. Humanity will only begin curing itself when the sheeple of this world strives to learn languages other than English. Humanity will only cure itself when Anglo-American "pop culture" finally gets recognized for what it actually is: primitive, animalistic, subversive and dangerous to the health and well being of human society.
Heralding the rise of conservative Russia
Pat Buchanan: Putin’s Paleoconservative Moment: http://www.theamericanconservative.com/putins-paleoconservative-moment/
Radio Liberty: Vladimir Ilyich Putin, Conservative Icon: http://www.rferl.mobi/a/25206293.html
Paul Goble: Kremlin Expands and Exploits Its Ties with [conservaitve/traditionalist groups] in Europe: http://windowoneurasia2.blogspot.com/2013/12/window-on-eurasia-kremlin-expands-and.html
A prerequisite for any aspiring global power is to espouse a sociopolitical ideology or formulate a galvanizing belief system.
Needless to say, the Soviet Union had such an ideology (perhaps too much of it) but it collapsed. With the disappearance of the Soviet Union, so too disappeared the time period's ideological and sociopolitical counterbalance to the Western world. As a consequence to the Soviet Union's sudden disappearance some twenty years ago, human society began getting assaulted by a Western ideological movement that in recent years has come to be known invariably as Westernization or Globalism.
While the proliferators of Globalization paint their Western belief system in the softest of colors and want us, the sheeple, to unquestionably accept it as an inevitable modern reality, we need to recognize it for what it really is. Westernization or Globalism is the promotion of: Afro-American pop culture, Anglo-American hero worship, fear of Jews, holocaust worship, English language, US Dollar, crony capitalism, corporatism, consumerism, individualism, materialism, atheism, third world immigration, democracy, ultra-liberalism, homosexuality, militant feminism, interracialism and multiculturalism.
Let's also recognize that Westernization/Globalism has four fundamental enemies: Conservatism, nationalism, the traditional family and Christianity. In other words, God, country, family and traditions.
Against this global menace, human society needed an ideological counterbalance. The Russian state has risen to the occasion in recent years, and not a moment too soon.
Sometime during the 1990s, former U.S. Secretary of State Madeleine Albright is believed to have said that the natural wealth found in the vastness of the Russian Federation was too much for one country to posses. It is very obvious that the West would have loved to have indefinitely lived-off the carcass of the Soviet Union, and they managed to do just that during the 1990s when Yeltsin the drunk and the Jewish oligarchs were in power -
But President Vladimir Putin's rise to power in 2000 put an abrupt end to their plans. Within a few short years Russia was turned from what was in essence a failed state into a great world power once again.Corruption, crony capitalism, and Russia's near-demise (2007): http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/2009/02/lets-place-vladimir-putin-in-proper.html
The Bear's return to the global scene has been nothing less than astounding.
In a few short years, Moscow was able to: nationalized virtually all of Russia's national assets, including its vast natural wealth; chase out all of Russia's problematic Western/Israel backed oligarchs; begin shutting down many of the nation's meddling Western NGOs and propaganda outlets; reverse the nation's population shrinkage; create a growing and vibrant middle class; defeat the Western/Turkish/Saudi Arabian backed Islamic insurgency in northern Caucasus; monopolize the distribution of Central Asian gas and oil; secure Europe's and China's energy needs; win the allegiance of Central Asian republics; evict US forces from former Soviet territory in Central Asia; develop unprecedentedly close relations with China; stop military aggression against Syria; support Iran's nuclear development program; stop Washington's missile defense shield deployment; stop NATO's advances in Eastern Europe; end Western, Turkish and Israeli military presence in Georgia; liberate Abkhazia and South Ossetia; place Russia-friendly leaders in Georgia; keep Turkey and Azerbaijan out of Armenia; end Ankara's pan-Turkic dreams in the Caucasus and Central Asia; place a Russia-friendly government in Ukraine; ensure Armenia's long term allegiance; and lure Armenia into the Customs Union. And just recently, Moscow has managed to put Kiev on the path to joining the Customs Union as well.
The grossmeister in the Kremlin has played his chess pieces brilliantly well on the Eurasian chessboard and nations such as Armenia, Syria and Iran are reaping great benefits as a result.
The Russian Bear is back on the global stage as a major competitor to the political West and a champion of traditional ideals and Christianity. I dare any rational person to imagine the political plight of the world today had Russia not risen from its ashes. I dare any Armenian patriot to imagine where Armenia would have been today had Russia not had boots on the ground in Armenia.
With the fall of Byzantium in the spring of 1453 the Russian nation began playing a major political, cultural and spiritual role in human society. For centuries, the Russian Empire was widely recognized as the Third Rome. For centuries, the Russian Empire was a bastion of Christian civilization. For centuries, the Russian Empire was the scourge of Turks and Muslims throughout Eurasia. After a Godless interval and an ensuing spiritual decay that lasted some seventy years, Christian Russia is making a historic comeback, and it stands poised today to be the last front against Anglo-American imperialism, Globalism, Islamic extremism, Zionism and pan-Turkism.
Arevordi
Ukraine 2014: Orange Revolution 2.0
Who could argue that the moves and maneuvers taking place on the Ukraine geo-political chessboard are as surreal as they get? The events occurring in Kiev are so transparent as to motive and purpose that one wonders if the CIA has all but abandoned their cloak and dagger MO of the past … in favor of living color revolutions taking place in real time. CNN must be jumping for joy at the prospects of improving their ratings plummet. They get to advertise and propagandize yet another CIA-conceived, coordinated, and controlled-from-the-top COLOR Revolution.
Can the reader imagine high level representatives from other countries, showing up in the midst of the most tense political standoffs in Washington DC, offering every kind of support to those Americans protesting against the US Federal Government? That’s exactly what US Assistant Secretary of State, Victoria Nuland is doing in the Ukraine at this very moment. Were any other nation to meddle in US internal affairs, they would become an immediate target of terrifying Yankee gunboat diplomacy. The individuals involved would be promptly placed on the TSA No-Fly List list for the rest of their incarnation. That is, of course, if they even made it out of the US alive.
Fool me once, shame on you; fool me twice, shame on me
What is particularly surprising about the current color revolution unfolding in the Ukraine is that this nation was the site of the very same CIA implementation plan back in 2004/2005. The Orange Revolution, as it was known at the time, was a classic CIA-engineered plot to impose their political outcome on the Ukrainian people. And they succeeded with flying colors.
That CIA-sponsored coup d’etat was so successful that it has since been used as a model for every other CIA-manufactured scheme that has toppled governments and reversed fair election outcomes the world over. In fact, the Ukraine is where the various social network utilities were used so effectively that the new MO has become known as the digital blitzkrieg. Never in human history have so many citizens been stampeded in the direction of overthrowing their government while being completely ignorant of the real forces manipulating the cattle prods.
Many commentators have wondered how the current protests have been so successful in light of their leaders previous experience with EU-US meddling in their domestic affairs. It was so obvious during the Orange Revolution 1.0 that the Western powers wanted to annul one election only to subsequently secure the victory of their chosen representative, Viktor Yushchenko. Can the Ukrainian people still be that unaware of the outright interference by foreign powers in their electoral process? Or, this highly invasive foreign initiative to overturn the recent presidential decision to postpone the signing of the EU deal.
Ironically, if a few thousand angry protestors ever tried to congregate around the US Capitol building, they would be swiftly herded into fenced-in holding pens out of earshot of the closest Congressman. They would then be arrested, fingerprinted and ferried as far away from the scene of the crime as possible . . . never to fly again.
US-EU-NATO Juggernaut rolls into any town, any time it wants to
What is especially striking about the blatant intervention by the EU et al. in Kiev is their carelessness. The various ‘diplomats’ and leaders who are meddling seem not to care a whit about their extraordinarily aggressive and unrelenting intrusions. They just proceed to act with complete impunity. Then, the host nation — the Ukraine — permits them every opportunity to meddle without consequence. Every proxy is given an apparently free hand to execute their agenda unimpeded on behalf of the IMF & Company.
As a matter of fact, the Ukraine government response has been so dysfunctional and inappropriate that one wonders if the current Administration has been unwittingly co-opted by the same CIA subterfuge. It’s as though the President, Prime Minister and Parliament have been wired in such a way as to be perfectly reactive to the many strategically placed CIA cattle prods. Likewise, who has ever seen a body politic herded so easily as those who have shown up in the city square working for foreign interests which operate against their own national interests?!
The European Union has been nothing but a slow sinking Titanic
This is precisely why the protests have been so fast in the making and fierce in their effect. With the southern flank of the EU (PIIGS) in such disarray, and the main economic engines of Germany and France ready to blow a gasket, the EU leadership is downright desperate. The Ukraine represents their last hope to prevent the final submersion of the Eurozone ship.
The Ukrainian people don’t even know that they are being corralled onto a ship in order to save a Titanic that has already hit an iceberg. Why would any nation at this point join the European Union in view of its gross mismanagement, trampling of national sovereignty, and frightful financial condition? The EU is clearly a quasi fascist/communist political construct designed to thoroughly disempower the citizenry of each participating nation. In this way it can be used as a very large and monolithic political, military and economic bloc to carry out the wishes of those who ultimately oversee the Eurozone.
The EU has become such an economic drain on the rest of the world, especially the US Federal Reserve, that its current and future indebtedness and unfunded liabilities are simply untenable. Hence, the Ukraine is looked to as a temporary savior because of its many large and robust markets, well established industrial base and transportation links to Asia, as well as it vast natural resources and raw materials.
Coup d’état by way of consensus, especially within US, EU, NATO leadership
Now you know why Western leaders, near and far, have snapped into action at the failure of the Ukraine to sign the landmark deal at the EU Summit. Also, why every CIA black op is being implemented and surrogate mobilized to reverse the President’s decision. In reality, the very existence of the EU depends on Ukrainian wealth because of its critical need to feeds its predatory version of corrupt, crony, corporate capitalism*.
*The authors have no problem with genuine free market capitalism that respects the sovereignty of each and every nation; however, that is not the predominant form operating worldwide today.
What reigns supreme across the global landscape is the terror “ism” known as naked, predatory capitalism. It utilizes faux democracy and bogus ‘rights’ and globalization (aka resource theft) as its main mantras. The ability of its promoters to take down a nation using other tools like economic terrorism, currency manipulation, financial sabotage, and corporate espionage is now the most feared force on the planet among those victimized by such criminal conduct.
Truly, a slick and sophisticated form of New Age colonialism has been advanced with awesome speed and success throughout this New Millennium. With the penetration of the internet into every national nook and cranny, revolutions and civil wars can now be twittered and facebooked from the CIA offices at Langley. Even YouTube and Instagram have gotten into the ‘picture’.
As more of the world population becomes digitally connected, greater numbers of unsuspecting souls fall prey to every MSM fabrication that originates in the bowels of the CIA Directorate of Operations (now known as National Clandestine Service). The end result just may be a Color Revolution coming to a theatre near you … in a format, mind you, that is much more than the traditional living color!
Source: http://stateofthenation2012.com/?p=2980
A tug-of-war between the East and the West for the future of Ukraine lasted over a month, and has ended for all practical purposes in a resounding victory for Vladimir Putin, adding to his previous successes in Syria and Iran. The trouble began when the administration of President Yanukovich went looking for credits to reschedule its loans and avoid default. There were no offers. They turned to the EC for help; the EC, chiefly Poland and Germany, seeing that the Ukrainian administration was desperate, prepared an association agreement of unusual severity.
The EC is quite hard on its new East European members, Latvia, Romania, Bulgaria et al.: these countries had their industry and agriculture decimated, their young people working menial jobs in Western Europe, their population drop exceeded that of the WWII.
But the association agreement offered to the Ukraine was even worse. It would turn the Ukraine into an impoverished colony of the EC without giving it even the dubious advantages of membership (such as freedom of work and travel in the EC). In desperation, Yanukovich agreed to sign on the dotted line, in vain hopes of getting a large enough loan to avoid collapse. But the EC has no money to spare – it has to provide for Greece, Italy, Spain. Now Russia entered the picture. At the time, relations of the Ukraine and Russia were far from good. Russians had become snotty with their oil money, the Ukrainians blamed their troubles on Russians, but Russia was still the biggest market for Ukrainian products.
For Russia, the EC agreement meant trouble: currently the Ukraine sells its output in Russia with very little customs protection; the borders are porous; people move freely across the border, without even a passport. If the EC association agreement were signed, the EC products would flood Russia through the Ukrainian window of opportunity. So Putin spelled out the rules to Yanukovich: if you sign with the EC, Russian tariffs will rise. This would put some 400,000 Ukrainians out of work right away. Yanukovich balked and refused to sign the EC agreement at the last minute. (I predicted this in my report from Kiev full three weeks before it happened, when nobody believed it – a source of pride).
The EC, and the US standing behind it, were quite upset. Besides the loss of potential economic profit, they had another important reason: they wanted to keep Russia farther away from Europe, and they wanted to keep Russia weak. Russia is not the Soviet Union, but some of the Soviet disobedience to Western imperial designs still lingers in Moscow: be it in Syria, Egypt, Vietnam, Cuba, Angola, Venezuela or Zimbabwe, the Empire can’t have its way while the Russian bear is relatively strong. Russia without the Ukraine can’t be really powerful: it would be like the US with its Mid-western and Pacific states chopped away. The West does not want the Ukraine to prosper, or to become a stable and strong state either, so it cannot join Russia and make it stronger. A weak, poor and destabilised Ukraine in semi-colonial dependence to the West with some NATO bases is the best future for the country, as perceived by Washington or Brussels.
Angered by this last-moment-escape of Yanukovich, the West activated its supporters. For over a month, Kiev has been besieged by huge crowds bussed from all over the Ukraine, bearing a local strain of the Arab Spring in the far north. Less violent than Tahrir, their Maidan Square became a symbol of struggle for the European strategic future of the country. The Ukraine was turned into the latest battle ground between the US-led alliance and a rising Russia. Would it be a revanche for Obama’s Syria debacle, or another heavy strike at fading American hegemony?
The simple division into “pro-East” and “pro-West” has been complicated by the heterogeneity of the Ukraine. The loosely knit country of differing regions is quite similar in its makeup to the Yugoslavia of old. It is another post-Versailles hotchpotch of a country made up after the First World War of bits and pieces, and made independent after the Soviet collapse in 1991. Some parts of this “Ukraine” were incorporated by Russia 500 years ago, the Ukraine proper (a much smaller parcel of land, bearing this name) joined Russia 350 years ago, whilst the Western Ukraine (called the “Eastern Regions”) was acquired by Stalin in 1939, and the Crimea was incorporated in the Ukrainian Soviet Republic by Khrushchev in 1954.
The Ukraine is as Russian as the South-of-France is French and as Texas and California are American. Yes, some hundreds years ago, Provence was independent from Paris, - it had its own language and art; while Nice and Savoy became French rather recently. Yes, California and Texas joined the Union rather late too. Still, we understand that they are – by now – parts of those larger countries, ifs and buts notwithstanding. But if they were forced to secede, they would probably evolve a new historic narrative stressing the French ill treatment of the South in the Cathar Crusade, or dispossession of Spanish and Russian residents of California.
Accordingly, since the Ukraine’s independence, the authorities have been busy nation-building, enforcing a single official language and creating a new national myth for its 45 million inhabitants. The crowds milling about the Maidan were predominantly (though not exclusively) arrivals from Galicia, a mountainous county bordering with Poland and Hungary, 500 km (300 miles) away from Kiev, and natives of the capital refer to the Maidan gathering as a “Galician occupation”.
Like the fiery Bretons, the Galicians are fierce nationalists, bearers of a true Ukrainian spirit (whatever that means). Under Polish and Austrian rule for centuries, whilst the Jews were economically powerful, they are a strongly anti-Jewish and anti-Polish lot, and their modern identity centred around their support for Hitler during the WWII, accompanied by the ethnic cleansing of their Polish and Jewish neighbours. After the WWII, the remainder of pro-Hitler Galician SS fighters were adopted by US Intelligence, re-armed and turned into a guerrilla force against the Soviets. They added an anti-Russian line to their two ancient hatreds and kept fighting the “forest war” until 1956, and these ties between the Cold Warriors have survived the thaw.
After 1991, when the independent Ukraine was created, in the void of state-building traditions, the Galicians were lauded as 'true Ukrainians’, as they were the only Ukrainians who ever wanted independence. Their language was used as the basis of a new national state language, their traditions became enshrined on the state level. Memorials of Galician Nazi collaborators and mass murderers Stepan Bandera and Roman Shukhevych peppered the land, often provoking the indignation of other Ukrainians. The Galicians played an important part in the 2004 Orange Revolution as well, when the results of presidential elections were declared void and the pro-Western candidate Mr Yuschenko got the upper hand in the re-run.
However, in 2004, many Kievans also supported Yuschenko, hoping for the Western alliance and a bright new future. Now, in 2013, the city's support for the Maidan was quite low, and the people of Kiev complained loudly about the mess created by the invading throngs: felled trees, burned benches, despoiled buildings and a lot of biological waste. Still, Kiev is home to many NGOs; city intellectuals receive generous help from the US and EC. The old comprador spirit is always strongest in the capitals.
For the East and Southeast of the Ukraine, the populous and heavily industrialised regions, the proposal of association with the EC is a no-go, with no ifs, ands or buts. They produce coal, steel, machinery, cars, missiles, tanks and aircraft. Western imports would erase Ukrainian industry right off the map, as the EC officials freely admit. Even the Poles, hardly a paragon of industrial development, had the audacity to say to the Ukraine: we’ll do the technical stuff, you'd better invest in agriculture. This is easier to say than to do: the EC has a lot of regulations that make Ukrainian products unfit for sale and consumption in Europe. Ukrainian experts estimated their expected losses for entering into association with the EC at anything from 20 to 150 billion euros.
For Galicians, the association would work fine. Their speaker at the Maidan called on the youth to ‘go where you can get money’ and do not give a damn for industry. They make their income in two ways: providing bed-and breakfast rooms for Western tourists and working in Poland and Germany as maids and menials. They hoped they would get visa-free access to Europe and make a decent income for themselves. Meanwhile, nobody offered them a visa-waiver arrangement. The Brits mull over leaving the EC, because of the Poles who flooded their country; the Ukrainians would be too much for London. Only the Americans, always generous at somebody’s else expense, demanded the EC drop its visa requirement for them.
While the Maidan was boiling, the West sent its emissaries, ministers and members of parliament to cheer the Maidan crowd, to call for President Yanukovich to resign and for a revolution to install pro-Western rule. Senator McCain went there and made a few firebrand speeches. The EC declared Yanukovich “illegitimate” because so many of his citizens demonstrated against him. But when millions of French citizens demonstrated against their president, when Occupy Wall Street was violently dispersed, nobody thought the government of France or the US president had lost legitimacy…
Victoria Nuland, the Assistant Secretary of State, shared her biscuits with the demonstrators, and demanded from the oligarchs support for the “European cause” or their businesses would suffer. The Ukrainian oligarchs are very wealthy, and they prefer the Ukraine as it is, sitting on the fence between the East and the West. They are afraid that the Russian companies will strip their assets should the Ukraine join the Customs Union, and they know that they are not competitive enough to compete with the EC. Pushed now by Nuland, they were close to falling on the EC side.
Yanukovich was in big trouble. The default was rapidly approaching. He annoyed the pro-Western populace, and he irritated his own supporters, the people of the East and Southeast. The Ukraine had a real chance of collapsing into anarchy. A far-right nationalist party, Svoboda (Liberty), probably the nearest thing to the Nazi party to arise in Europe since 1945, made a bid for power. The EC politicians accused Russia of pressurising the Ukraine; Russian missiles suddenly emerged in the western-most tip of Russia, a few minutes flight from Berlin. The Russian armed forces discussed the US strategy of a “disarming first strike”. The tension was very high.
Edward Lucas, the Economist's international editor and author of The New Cold War, is a hawk of the Churchill and Reagan variety. For him, Russia is an enemy, whether ruled by Tsar, by Stalin or by Putin. He wrote: “It is no exaggeration to say that the [Ukraine] determines the long-term future of the entire former Soviet Union. If Ukraine adopts a Euro-Atlantic orientation, then the Putin regime and its satrapies are finished… But if Ukraine falls into Russia's grip, then the outlook is bleak and dangerous... Europe's own security will also be endangered. NATO is already struggling to protect the Baltic states and Poland from the integrated and increasingly impressive military forces of Russia and Belarus. Add Ukraine to that alliance, and a headache turns into a nightmare.”
In this cliff-hanging situation, Putin made his pre-emptive strike. At a meeting in the Kremlin, he agreed to buy fifteen billion euros worth of Ukrainian Eurobonds and cut the natural gas price by a third. This meant there would be no default; no massive unemployment; no happy hunting ground for the neo-Nazi thugs of Svoboda; no cheap and plentiful Ukrainian prostitutes and menials for the Germans and Poles; and Ukrainian homes will be warm this Christmas. Better yet, the presidents agreed to reforge their industrial cooperation. When Russia and Ukraine formed a single country, they built spaceships; apart, they can hardly launch a naval ship. Though unification isn’t on the map yet, it would make sense for both partners. This artificially divided country can be united, and it would do a lot of good for both of their populaces, and for all people seeking freedom from US hegemony.
There are a lot of difficulties ahead: Putin and Yanukovich are not friends, Ukrainian leaders are prone to renege, the US and the EC have a lot of resources. But meanwhile, it is a victory to celebrate this Christmastide. Such victories keep Iran safe from US bombardment, inspire the Japanese to demand removal of Okinawa base, encourage those seeking closure of Guantanamo jail, cheer up Palestinian prisoners in Israeli prisons, frighten the NSA and CIA and allow French Catholics to march against Hollande’s child-trade laws.
What is the secret of Putin’s success? Edward Lucas said, in an interview to the pro-Western Ekho Moskvy radio: “Putin had a great year - Snowden, Syria, Ukraine. He checkmated Europe. He is a great player: he notices our weaknesses and turns them into his victories. He is good in diplomatic bluff, and in the game of Divide and Rule. He makes the Europeans think that the US is weak, and he convinced the US that Europeans are useless”.
I would offer an alternative explanation. The winds and hidden currents of history respond to those who feel their way. Putin is no less likely a roguish leader of global resistance than Princess Leia or Captain Solo were in Star Wars. Just the time for such a man is ripe.
Unlike Solo, he is not an adventurer. He is a prudent man. He does not try his luck, he waits, even procrastinates. He did not try to change regime in Tbilisi in 2008, when his troops were already on the outskirts of the city. He did not try his luck in Kiev, either. He has spent many hours in many meetings with Yanukovich whom he supposedly personally dislikes.
Like Captain Solo, Putin is a man who is ready to pay his way, full price, and such politicians are rare. “Do you know what is the proudest word you will ever hear from an Englishman's mouth?”, asked a James Joyce character, and answered: “His proudest boast is I paid my way.” Those were Englishmen of another era, long before the likes of Blair, et al.
While McCain and Nuland, Merkel and Bildt speak of the European choice for the Ukraine, none of them is ready to pay for it. Only Russia is ready to pay her way, in the Joycean sense, whether in cash, as now, or in blood, as in WWII.
Putin is also a magnanimous man. He celebrated his Ukrainian victory and forthcoming Christmas by forgiving his personal and political enemies and setting them free: the Pussy Riot punks, Khodorkovsky the murderous oligarch, rioters… And his last press conference he carried out in Captain Solo self-deprecating mode, and this, for a man in his position, is a very good sign.
Israel Shamir reports from Moscow for Counter punch, comments on RT and pens a regular column in Russia's largest daily, KP.
In July, during the celebrations of the 1025th anniversary of Christianization of the historical Rus region, Putin and the Patriarch of Moscow Kirill recalled that Russians, Belarusians and Ukrainians come from one “Dnieper font,” and should therefore stay one big family instead of trying their luck elsewhere.
Putin has invested much in Ukraine. In his political career, there was no bigger humiliation than the one during the Orange Revolution, in 2004. He came to Kiev to support Viktor Yanukovych during the presidential elections and congratulated him twice on the victory over Viktor Yushchenko. And yet the latter finally emerged as the winner. Back then it was not just about ambitions and cold calculations. Personal emotions were involved as well.
Now, Putin is busy doing everything to stop the Ukrainian accession to the European Union. (On Thursday, he got some welcome news as Ukraine's parliament rejected a bill that would have led to the release of jailed opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko, which may scuttle a key trade deal with the EU.)
The EU has run a nice propaganda war which included giving US made GMO sandwiches to Ukrainian opposition and promises of major ‘profits’ once it entered the EU. But it was all for nothing as Ukraine signed a major contract in Moscow earlier today, dealing a significant blow to Washington who uses any sort of protest to put more rockets in Europe and Brussels who hoped to expand its territory with a nice little chunk called “Ukraine”.
After stringing along Russia, the EU and the Ukrainian people, President Viktor Yanukovich has inked an agreement worth $15 billion in securities and from January 1, can start buying Russian gas for $268 instead of $400 per 100 cubic meters. The Russian government will essentially buy $15 billion in Ukrainian debt by buying Ukrainian securities using money from Russia’s Welfare Fund, President Vladimir Putin announced Tuesday at a meeting with Yanukovich in Moscow.
“For the purpose of supporting the Ukrainian budget the Russian government has made a decision to invest part of the National Welfare Fund, to the tune of $15 billion, in Ukrainian government securities,” Putin said. Russia will invest roughly 17 percent of its $88 billion National Welfare Fund, which, together with Russia’s Sovereign Wealth Fund is used as a sort of buffer for the country’s oil-dependent budget.
Ukraine and Russia need to learn lessons and avoid mistakes in future bilateral cooperation, Yanukovich said. “We have this need to draw lessons for the future and not to repeat such mistakes,” Yanukovich said at the conclusion of the bilateral talks held in Moscow on Tuesday.
Ukraine “is our fully-fledged strategic partner beyond any doubt,” Putin said at the meeting, where the two presidents signed 14 separate agreements on space, engineering, defense and trade. “We did not talk about Ukraine joining the Customs Union at all,” Putin said at the end of the nearly 4-hour long meetings, in an apparent effort to calm opposition protesters in Kiev awaiting news of the two presidents’ talks.
European officials will meet Thursday to discuss Ukrainian trade and a Russia-EU summit is scheduled for late January. EU enlargement chief Stefan Fuele tweeted on Monday that Ukraine’s back and forth trade negotiations have “no grounds in reality,” a signal that the door Western diplomats had insisted remained wide open, had actually, been firmly shut.
Yanukovich backed out of EU talks just before last month’s Vilnius conference, where Ukraine was expected to sign an Association Agreement that would have set it on a path toward eventual integration with the EU.
The scenes from the Ukrainian capital are extraordinary: Lenin's statue toppled, hundreds of thousands of flag-waving protesters, police raids on media outlets and opposition parties. But they are a sideshow to the big picture: the collapse of the European Union's efforts to integrate its ex-Soviet neighbors in the face of an audacious bid by Vladimir Putin's ex-KGB regime to restore the Russian empire.
As Western efforts to bring Ukraine into the European fold are stalling, the country's pivot toward Russia looks to be undermining its own multiyear efforts to secure European nuclear-fuel and natural-gas supplies. Ukraine, which uses Swedish-made nuclear fuel in three of its 15 nuclear reactors, in short order needs to update its roughly $100 million, five-year fuel-supply contract with a unit of Westinghouse Electric Co., owned by Japan's Toshiba Corp., the company said.
Failure to extend the supply deal between the former Soviet state and the West would force Westinghouse to cease the manufacture of the fuel entirely, and Central and Eastern European countries using Russian-designed VVER reactors would definitively lose access to a fuel-supply alternative to Russia, a senior company official told The Wall Street Journal on the condition of anonymity.
Ukraine President Viktor Yanukovych last month unexpectedly refused to sign a landmark association agreement with the European Union that would have removed significant trade barriers. Then earlier this week, he struck a deal with Russian President Vladimir Putin in Moscow that will temporarily slash the price Ukraine pays for natural gas by one third and will give Ukraine $15 billion in midterm financing, with Russia committing to buy Ukrainian bonds.
Following the deal, Mr. Yanukovych said the two countries need to develop a "strategic" relationship. In subsequent days, Ukrainian officials have gone silent on future nuclear-fuel supplies and on an imminent deal with the EU for natural-gas supplies from the West. Officials from Ukraine's government, energy ministry and nuclear power operator didn't respond to requests for comment.
Peter Attard Montalto, an analyst with Nomura in London, said there is more to this week's dealings than communicated officially, and it is likely Presidents Putin and Yanukovych made "very strong verbal or other agreements in the background about NATO, the customs union and other factors as well."
"People see this as a turning away from the West," Mr. Montalto said. "As usual when dealing with Russia, we should expect the unexpected."
While Ukraine's nuclear contract with Westinghouse lasts through 2015, the lead-time in processing the material is significant, and the Pennsylvania-based company said it needs to update its contract with Kiev quickly to maintain its Swedish production base. The company official said the two sides don't need to sign a deal in a matter of days, but it must be done "soon."
Anton Usov, senior adviser for the European Bank for Reconstruction and Development in Kiev, said the nuclear fuel situation is "highly politicized" and isn't a topic for public comment. The government in Ukraine—embattled amid daily protests, with hundreds of thousands of people calling for its resignation and for fresh elections—intends to deepen cooperation with TVEL, Russia's nuclear fuel company, with the aim of creating a closed nuclear cycle in Ukraine based on Russian technologies, said Dmytro Naumenko, a senior research fellow at the Center for Economic Studies at the Institute for Economic Research and Policy Consulting in Kiev
The two parties are building just such a plant, and its equipment, being made in Russia, is about 90% finished, Mr. Naumenko added.
"I am a bit skeptical about the contract prolongation" with Westinghouse, he said.
Ukraine is the West's last stand for nuclear fuel deliveries in the former Soviet bloc, after Westinghouse's fuel supplies for Czech reactors were substituted with Russian fuel in 2010. The European Commission had no comment on the situation, saying it doesn't involve itself in nuclear deals, which are sovereign, national issues, said Marlene Holzner, spokeswoman for European Energy Commissioner Günther Oettinger.
At the same time, the Slovak natural-gas pipeline operator EUstream, which last month was due to sign a memorandum of understanding with Ukraine's pipeline operator Ukrtransgaz on reversing gas flows to provide Ukraine an alternative gas supply, says it is now impossible to predict if and when a deal will be signed.
The EU has spent months brokering the Slovak pipeline accord, and Brussels had insisted for the past few weeks that the Ukrainian gas distributor would sign the deal imminently. However, officials from Ukrtransgaz failed to attend a signing ceremony in Bratislava a couple of weeks ago, according to several European officials, and the firm still hasn't signed the deal.
Mrs. Holzner said Ukrtransgaz could sign the deal "sometime after Christmas" and added that the EU hadn't been told the Ukrainian company planned to walk away from the deal. However one senior EU official said Wednesday that while it was "premature" to pronounce the deal dead, the agreement was now in serious doubt. Representatives of Ukrtransgaz didn't respond to requests for comment.
Most countries on the 28-nation bloc's eastern flank already get the bulk of their natural gas and crude oil from Russia, all the region's nuclear reactors were originally built according to Russian designs, and barring a Ukraine fuel deal, all nuclear fuel in future would only come from Russian entities.
Also in play is whether Ukraine will back out of its commitments to the EU's Energy Community, which could lead to a halt in the country's efforts to reduce greenhouse gas emissions in turn for its ability to export electricity to Hungary.
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After the Soviet Union fell two decades ago, Zbigniew Brzezinski wrote that "without Ukraine, Russia ceases to be an empire, but with Ukraine suborned and then subordinated, Russia automatically becomes an empire." Those are still the stakes in the current struggle over Ukraine.Last week the government in Kiev took a step back into Russia's orbit when it abandoned plans to sign an "association" trade treaty this Friday with the European Union and announced its intentions to get closer to a Moscow-led trade bloc. The decision by President Viktor Yanukovych followed months of bullying by Moscow.
Russia's Vladimir Putin has slapped trade sanctions, cut energy supplies and threatened worse for Ukraine and other neighbors that seek closer relations with the West. Armenia caved this summer and joined the Russian customs union. Moldova and Georgia are moving ahead with their EU trade deals.
With a population of 46 million and located along NATO's eastern frontier, Ukraine is the biggest prize. Since retaking the Russian presidency last year, Mr. Putin has turned even more hostile to the West and sought to recreate a Russian sphere of influence over the "near abroad." The Obama Administration's "reset" in relations with Moscow failed to anticipate or stop this.
Ukrainian officials say the Russian sanctions cost them $15 billion in lost trade and could run up to half a trillion by signing the EU deal. "Ukraine government suddenly bows deeply to the Kremlin," tweeted the veteran Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt in response to Thursday's reversal in Kiev. "Politics of brutal pressure evidently works."
Mr. Yanukovych contributed to this debacle. A thuggish pol from industrial eastern Ukraine, he tried to steal the 2004 presidential election, but a popular uprising stopped him. The Orange Revolution ensured free elections in 2010, which Mr. Yanukovych won, and he has since taken an authoritarian turn.
Desperate to stem his falling support before elections in 2015, Mr. Yanukovych seized on Russia's offer of trade relief and cheap gas. He has also jailed his chief rival, the Orange leader Yulia Tymoshenko, whom the EU insisted be released for medical treatment in Germany. His allies in parliament last month changed the law that could disqualify, on a technicality, the reigning WBC heavyweight champion and parliamentary opposition leader Vitaly Klitschko from running for president. The polls say the popular Mr. Klitschko would win if the election were held today.
A good deal with Moscow for Mr. Yanukovych is bad for Ukrainians who have made clear they want to get closer to the friendlier, richer West. Tens of thousands have protested in the Kiev streets in the past few days against Mr. Yanukovych's decision. The country's business elites also oppose joining the Russian customs union, and for now Mr. Yanukovych has resisted Moscow's pressure to start talks. The EU trade deal remains on the table, as the EU emphasized in a Monday statement that also condemned "the external pressure" from Moscow on Ukraine.
German Chancellor Angela Merkel took the wrong step this weekend by proposing EU-Russian talks over the eastern neighbors, as if these countries haven't been sovereign states for 22 years. Germany is also blocking a proposal to offer Georgia a path to NATO membership, while Washington seems little more than a bystander. An independent Ukraine that leans West will lead to a more peaceful Europe and make it harder for Mr. Putin to rebuild a revanchist Russian empire.
The recent protests in Ukraine have the stench of a foreign-orchestrated attempt to destabilize the government of Viktor Yanukovych after he walked away from signing an EU Association Agreement that would have driven a deep wedge between Russia and Ukraine. Glamor-star boxer-turned political guru, Vitaly Klitschko, has been meeting with the US State Department and is close to Angela Merkel’s CDU political machine in Germany. The EU association agreement with Ukraine is widely resisted by many EU member states with deep economic problems of their own. The two EU figures most pushing it—Swedish Foreign Minister Carl Bildt and Polish Foreign Minister Radosław Sikorski—are both well known in the EU as close to Washington. The US is strongly pushing the Ukraine EU integration just as it had been behind the 2004 failed “Orange Revolution” to split Ukraine from Russia in a bid to isolate and weaken Russia. Now Ukrainians have found evidence of direct involvement of the Belgrade US-financed training group, CANVAS behind the carefully-orchestrated Kiev protests.
The photo left is from Tahrir Square; the right from Kiev and here below is the English original used by the Belgrade CANVAS NGO:
Canvas, formerly Otpor, received significant money from the US State Department in 2000 to stage the first successful Color Revolution against Slobodan Milosovic in then-Yugoslavia. Since then they have been transformed into a full-time “revolution consultancy” for the US, posing as a Serbian grass-root group backing “democracy.” [2] Who would ever think a Serbian-based NGO would be a front for US-backed regime change?
The Strange Ukraine “Opposition”
Direct sources in Kiev that I have contacted report that the anti-government protestors have been recruited with money from among university students and unemplyed to come by bus into the heart of Kiev. The revealing aspect is the spectacular emergence of champion boxed Vitaly Klitschko as presumably the wise politician guiding Ukraine’s future. No doubt spending your career beating other boxers unconscious is a superb preparation for becoming a statesman, though I for one doubt it. It reminds of the choice of a low-grade Hollywood movie actor, Ronald Reagan as President. But more interesting about “opposition” spokesman Klitschko is who his friends are.
Klitschko is being backed by US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland. Nuland, former US Ambassador to NATO, is a neo-conservative married to leading neo-conservative hawk, Robert Kagan, and was herself a former adviser to Dick Cheney. [3]
Klitschko is also very friendly with German Chancellor Merkel. According to a recent Der Spiegel report, Merkel wants to support Klitschko in his bid to become Ukraine’s president in 2015. [4]
More evidence that a darker agenda lies behind the “democracy” opposition is the fact that the demands of the protestors went from demanding accession to the EU to demanding the immediate resignation of the Yanukovich government. Klitschko and the opposition used an unfortunate police crackdown on protesters to massively expand the protest from a few hundred to tens of thousands. On December 18, the government took the wind partly out of the Klitschko sails by signing a major economic agreement with Moscow in which Russia agreed to cut the price of Russian gas exported to Ukraine by a third, down to $268.5 per 1,000 cubic meters from the current level of more than $400, and to buy $15 billion of Ukraine’s debt in eurobonds. That gives Ukraine breathing room to avoid a sovereign debt default and calmly negotiate over its future.
Source: http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2014/01/07/us-ngo-uncovered-in-ukraine-protests/#sthash.mJPpqq63.dpuf
A copy of the pamphlet that was given out to opposition protestors in Kiev has been obtained. It is a word-for-word and picture-for-picture translation of the pamphlet used by US-financed Canvas organizers in the 2011 Cairo Tahrir Square protests that toppled Hosni Mubarak and opened the door to the US-backed Muslim Brotherhood.[1] The photo below is a side-by-side comparison:
The Strange Ukraine “Opposition”
Direct sources in Kiev that I have contacted report that the anti-government protestors have been recruited with money from among university students and unemplyed to come by bus into the heart of Kiev. The revealing aspect is the spectacular emergence of champion boxed Vitaly Klitschko as presumably the wise politician guiding Ukraine’s future. No doubt spending your career beating other boxers unconscious is a superb preparation for becoming a statesman, though I for one doubt it. It reminds of the choice of a low-grade Hollywood movie actor, Ronald Reagan as President. But more interesting about “opposition” spokesman Klitschko is who his friends are.
Klitschko is being backed by US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland. Nuland, former US Ambassador to NATO, is a neo-conservative married to leading neo-conservative hawk, Robert Kagan, and was herself a former adviser to Dick Cheney. [3]
Klitschko is also very friendly with German Chancellor Merkel. According to a recent Der Spiegel report, Merkel wants to support Klitschko in his bid to become Ukraine’s president in 2015. [4]
More evidence that a darker agenda lies behind the “democracy” opposition is the fact that the demands of the protestors went from demanding accession to the EU to demanding the immediate resignation of the Yanukovich government. Klitschko and the opposition used an unfortunate police crackdown on protesters to massively expand the protest from a few hundred to tens of thousands. On December 18, the government took the wind partly out of the Klitschko sails by signing a major economic agreement with Moscow in which Russia agreed to cut the price of Russian gas exported to Ukraine by a third, down to $268.5 per 1,000 cubic meters from the current level of more than $400, and to buy $15 billion of Ukraine’s debt in eurobonds. That gives Ukraine breathing room to avoid a sovereign debt default and calmly negotiate over its future.
- See more at: http://www.boilingfrogspost.com/2014/01/07/us-ngo-uncovered-in-ukraine-protests/#sthash.mJPpqq63.dpuf
"People of Ukraine, this is your moment. This is about you, no one else. This is about the future you want for your country. This is about the future you deserve," McCain said. "We are here to support your just cause, the sovereign right of Ukraine to determine its own destiny freely and independently. And the destiny you seek lies in Europe,” he added. “The US is with you.” Murphy also urged protesters to continue the fight. “Ukraine's future stands with Europe, and the United States stands with Ukraine," he said.
Meanwhile, Polish MPs set up a tent on Independence Square on Sunday, UNIAN news reported. “I haven’t felt as free as I do here on the Maidan for a very long time,” MP Malgorzata Gosevska said, adding that Polish national dishes will be distributed to the protesters in the evening.
McCain and Murphy met with Ukraine’s President Viktor Yanukovich on Sunday. During the talks, the president “emphasized the invariability of the European integration course of Ukraine and the faithfulness to national interests of the state,” according to a statement on the leader’s website.
Yanukovich assured that the government will do everything in its power to make certain that citizens’ rights for peaceful demonstrations are protected, and confirmed that there will be an investigation into the events of November 30 on Independence Square - the day security forces launched a crackdown on protesters. The two sides have agreed to continue negotiations.
McCain also met with imprisoned opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko’s daughter and said he supported sanctions against specific officials in the Ukrainian government, Tymoshenko's Batkyvschina party said in a Sunday statement on its website.
"This morning the daughter of opposition leader Yulia Tymoshenko, Yevgenia...held a meeting with US Senator John McCain," the statement reads. McCain talked about "the possibility of bringing in personal sanctions against senior officials in [President Viktor] Yanukovych's regime, including those implicated in the politically motivated persecution and jailing of Yulia Tymoshenko," it continues.
Around 20,000 pro-EU protesters once again gathered on Independence Square on Sunday, continuing the demonstrations which have now lasted more than three weeks. Later in the day, three columns of protesters moved out of Independence Square to hold demonstrations in front of the Ukrainian government buildings in Kiev. Opposition leaders sent a group to the Ukrainian Security Service headquarters and the Interior Ministry, claiming that those agencies were responsible for the violent crackdown on the Maidan rally on November 30.
The third group headed towards the Central Election Committee due to early parliament elections that were taking place in five of the country’s districts on Sunday. In nearby Mariinsky Park, a group of around 15,000 people came out to participate in anti-EU demonstrations and support President Yanukovich.
Earlier on Sunday, it was announced that the European Union is freezing its work with the Ukrainian government on a controversial trade agreement. The country decided to postpone the deal last month, triggering massive protests. The EU believes that Ukraine’s position in the negotiations of the Association Agreement has “no grounds in reality,” EU enlargement chief Stefan Fuele tweeted.
The angry remarks came after Fuele’s meeting with Ukrainian Deputy Prime Minister Sergey Arbuzov. Commenting on the news, the Ukrainian PM’s office said Kiev has a strong intention to continue negotiations with the EU. But Ukraine will only respond to official messages from the Europeans - not tweets - a spokesman for the Prime Minister added.
In the meantime, Yanukovich is scheduled to visit Moscow on December 17. The country’s Prime Minister, Nikolay Azarov, stated that no documents will be signed in relation to the country joining the Customs Union during the interstate commission meeting on December 17 in Moscow. He clarified that before anything is signed, it must be approved by the cabinet and “right now there are no documents that directly or indirectly have any relation to the Customs Union,” Azarov told Inter TV channel.
Threat of sanctions
As the confrontation continues, European and American politicians and top officials are flocking to Ukraine to cheer on the opposition crowds and criticize the Yanukovich government for not acting on protesters’ demands.
During a meeting with opposition leaders - former boxing champion Vitaly Klitschko, former economy minister Arseny Yatsenyuk and far right nationalist Oleh Tyahnybog - McCain was asked for more than just moral support from the US - referring to the possible introduction of sanctions, UNIAN reported on Saturday.
After the meeting, McCain said that he believes the resolution will be adopted swiftly and unanimously by Washington, Ukrainian Pravda quoted him as saying. Earlier this week, US Assistant Secretary of State Victoria Nuland handed out snacks to protesters on Independence Square. EU foreign policy chief Catherine Ashton also met with both the Ukrainian government and the opposition, and visited Independence Square to see the protests firsthand.
Russia, which has been blamed by both the Ukrainian opposition and Western statesmen for twisting Ukraine’s arm to stop its EU integration, is trying to distance itself from the conflict. It has, however, criticized the West on several occasions for what Moscow sees as blatant interference in Ukraine’s sovereign affairs. Unrest in Ukraine began on November 21 when Yanukovich refused to sign the Association Agreement with the EU. Legal expert and blogger Alexander Mercouris explained to RT that special attention given to Ukraine by Western politicians will only do harm.
"The reasons they are there is bluntly because these people want to detach Ukraine from Russia - as they see it. And they think that by supporting the protesters in Kiev, they might actually achieve that. The problem with the head strategy is that it’s simply not working. The bonds between Ukraine and Russia - economically, culturally, and ethnically - are simply too strong,” he said.
“For American politicians and for European politicians to go to Ukraine and to try to do that is actually very unwise and very dangerous. And is simply exacerbating and making worse the differences, the divisions, in Ukraine, which are already very great,” Mercouris added.
Source: http://rt.com/news/ukraine-rival-rallies-kiev-291/
“The apparently smooth progress towards a final deal came to a shuddering halt in early September, when President Serzh Sargsyan met his Russian counterpart Vladimir Putin and announced plans to join another economic bloc, the Moscow-led Customs Union. Membership of the grouping, which currently includes Russia, Belarus and Kazakstan, would require Armenia to adopt a different set of trade tariffs and agreements which EU officials say are not compatible with the Association Agreement. “Despite this, President Sargsyan says Customs Union membership would not conflict with the EU accord, which he argues could be uncoupled from the DCFTA. “‘Armenia is ready even now to sign an Association Agreement with the EU,’ Sargsyan said in a question-and-answer session after addressing the Parliamentary Assembly of the Council of Europe on October 2. ‘Sadly, our partners in the European Commission have said there is a clear contradiction between the Customs Union and the agreement on a free trade zone.… We have suggested that we could sign just the Association Agreement, which mainly covers political reforms.’…. “‘There has recently been a lot of talk about the civilisational choice facing members of the Eastern Partnership initiative. We have always stated that we don’t believe it’s right to view the issue in those terms.’”
Marine calls for John McCain to be arrested and tried for treason at town hall meeting: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=F5TSmkOEijI“Of course Russia is interested to keep Ukraine close to Russia politically, economically but it does not use its pressure to be interpreted as an intervention in internal affairs of Ukraine. It is in the contrary. “We watched today what is going on from the Eastern Europe. Europe parliamentarians are coming to Kiev demonstrating and even camping. Polish parliamentarians are camping in Kiev in Maidan, main square of Kiev city. “And so yesterday Russian TV showed John McCain arrival to Kiev and he brought with him some luggage, diplomatic luggage, eight big bags: one of them only was set for … [his] diplomatic car and the seven other big bags were placed in Ukrainian cars and they said that it is money. Huge amount of money brought to spread, to support opposition. “I asked where is international law? How is it possible to intervene in such ugly way in the internal disturbed situation in Ukraine? “Money, money and all this was spread [among opposition] and made based on huge amounts… “So I think that not Russian intervention but European, American intervention, direct appearance in demonstrations, appearance among oppositions, take and flow, making some speeches, encouraging for revolution. “That I can say, I as a former diplomatic, my job, I cannot even imagine such kind of behaviors are suitable for current international law…”
Who is Behind the Ukrainian Riots? – New World Next Week: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ZdTDdYHDrxk
CrossTalk: Radical Ukraine: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=I7PjcOTF5A4&list=UUpwvZwUam-URkxB7g4USKpg
Regularly topping LiveJournal’s Russian-language traffic are two distinct kinds of reportage on Ukraine: first, there are the largely opposition-sympathetic photo blogs by photographers like Rustem Adagamov (and slightly more ambiguous work by Ilya Varlamov), and, second, there are the deeply anti-opposition posts by bloggers spreading conspiracy theories about terrorist plots and Western interventions designed to undermine the Ukrainian authorities.
Given the lack of eyewitnesses, the murder of Serhiy Nigoyan, Maidan’s first shooting fatality, has naturally attracted lots of speculation about who was responsible. Nigoyan died from bullet wounds on January 22, 2014, near Dynamo stadium on Grushevsky Street in Kiev, where skirmishes against police have been most intense. Nigoyan had been serving as an informal security guard for Maidan protestors. Twenty-years-old, handsome, and apparently quite friendly, Nigoyan had become a fixture of Kiev’s protest scenery, even starring in an unfinished film documentary. (A clip from his interview in this project is now available on YouTube, see below.)
The day of the murder, after the popular Twitter account “EuroMaidan” posted a photo (later deleted) of unidentified snipers atop a building, Moscow-based blogger Denis Travin and others jumped [ru] at the opportunity to show that the photograph in the tweet was actually from Kyrgyzstan in April 2010.
Other Russian bloggers have been more willing to accept the role of snipers in Nigoyan’s murder, but some have also embraced extremely elaborate conspiracy theories about the gunmen’s identity. LiveJournal user ermalex76, for instance, argues in a blog post [ru] that the American military was behind the killing, citing the irregular ammo used, and the supposedly curious proximity of a (US-funded) Radio Liberty journalist to the site of the shooting. Blaming Gene Sharp, an American political scientist famous for his work on anti-government resistance movements, ermalex76 explains that “Sharp’s Plan” calls for the creation of “sacred martyrs,” in order to motivate protestors. (The blogger goes on to clarify that Yulia Timoshenko would make the perfect sacrifice, but her continued imprisonment makes it too difficult to kill her.)
Indeed, in an op-ed [ru] in the newspaper Izvestia, Russian opposition figure (and perennial gadfly of Russian liberals) Eduard Limonov also entertained the idea that someone was posing as police snipers, as a ploy to catalyze protest sentiment.
Other conspiracy theorists have turned their attention away from the killers and onto the victim, opening the door to character assassinations of Nigoyan. Following his death, it wasn’t long before bloggers discovered Nigoyan’s account [ru] on Russia’s largest social network, Vkontakte, where he posted methodically about Armenia. RuNet users did not fail to miss old photos of Nigoyan in army fatigues at a firing range. Presumably, this was during his mandatory military service in Ukraine (not Armenia, which Nigoyan never once visited), though another post raised suspicions [ru] of terrorist affiliations. On November 21, 2013, Nigoyan put up a picture celebrating ASALA, the redundantly titled “Armenian Secret Army for the Liberation of Armenia,” a now extinct organization that spent the 1980s listed as a terrorist organization by the United States.
While no proof whatsoever has emerged linking Nigoyan to terrorism, it seems the rumor found a receptive audience even in Ukraine’s highest echelons of power. Sources close to the negotiations between the opposition and the government told [ru] journalist Tatiana Nikolaenko that President Yanukovich originally rebuffed accusations that the police were killing protesters. “Listen, guys, this was an Armenian terrorist,” the President allegedly said during talks, in the government’s defense.
"The West calls terrorists and putschists 'activists' (and) tries to present them as peaceful demonstrators even though everyone sees how they attack police and hurl Molotov cocktails at them, prepare napalm, and arm themselves."
Without Ukraine, Russia will never stand a chance of becoming a great power again. Ukraine’s 45 million people, of which around 75 per cent are Ukrainian and around 18 per cent are Russian, would increase Russia’s population by a third. Its industrial capacity is considerable, as is the case for its agricultural potential. Vast reserves of shale gas/oil have led to agreements with Shell and Chevron, auguring self-sufficiency around 2020 and removing the leverage supply of gas and oil gives Russia. Chinese investment in agriculture has been forthcoming, reserving five per cent of the landmass for food production going to China.
These investments may not be welcome from a Russian point of view. Geographically, Russia’s southern border is exposed. A Ukraine outside its sphere of interest requires this southern vulnerability to be incorporated into Moscow’s planning at a moment when military presence in the Arctic is being given high priority. The Russian ‘nation,’ or maybe it is more correct to say the Russian identity, can be traced back to Kiev—not Moscow—rubbing salt into the wound over Ukraine and its people’s apparent unwillingness to link their future to Russia. It’s a kind of cultural break, or even worse, a snub.
Superficially, the EU offer of a partnership gave better access to markets and the prospect of modernizing Ukraine’s economy. This might ire the Kremlin, but does not explain the intense opposition. The reason behind that stance is that a successful expansion of EU’s societal model so different from the Russian one will leave Moscow isolated, making it increasingly difficult to stem the tide of growing opposition inside Russia. Preventing Ukraine from choosing this path is therefore the first line of defence of the Kremlin’s own political system.
The European Union may not fully have seen this. It entered into talks in 2009 with not only Ukraine, but Armenia, Azerbaijan, Belarus, Georgia and Moldova (from Russia’s perspective a maneuver to envelop it) in the mood of extending trade concessions and economic benefits. That it would also force these countries to change their societal model may not have been overlooked, but the interpretation or understanding of how Russia would react to such a change in its ‘near abroad’ was apparently not analysed; at least no proper diplomatic preparations for the inevitable showdown with Russia and confrontation with the Russian-backed rulers of Ukraine were initiated.
EU’s Common Foreign and Security Policy have broken new ground in international relations by renouncing war and explicitly selecting political means to achieve political objectives. This proved tremendously successful in Central and Eastern Europe. Looking at Ukraine, it seems almost superfluous to highlight how attractive the Western European model is in the eyes of its people. They lived first under Soviet dictatorship and then suffered from a combination of incompetence, authoritarian rulers and kleptocracy robbing them of the country’s wealth. Some observers might label it arrogance, but the core of this is that the EU, despite flaws and shortcomings, has reached a degree of political maturity that people living at its periphery can only dream of—and they do—when comparing with their own situation.
The apparent political stalemate in Ukraine after the September 30 elections reflects the historic divisions of this big country on the borders between Russia to the east and Europe to the west. Both the outgoing prime minister, the Russophile Viktor Yanukovich, and Western-oriented Yulia Tymoshenko claim electoral victory in a country split down the middle between its eastern and western components. With 50 million inhabitants, Ukraine is the France of the East. Therefore, where Europe ends in the east is not just a rhetorical question: since 1991 Europe has steadily pushed its eastern borders right up to the frontiers of Russia. A weakened post-Soviet Russia was unable to stop that advance. Not only the ex-Soviet satellite countries in Eastern Europe, from Bulgaria to Poland, changed sides, but also parts of the USSR itself -- Lithuania, Estonia, Latvia, Belarus and Ukraine -- turned toward Western Europe.
Western emotions about the new-old country of Ukraine are no less mixed than those of the Ukrainian people themselves, forever divided between East and West. They are a big people with a natural desire to decide their own fate, a fate that has led them down disastrous paths in their long history. The major problem has been their two souls. Their Eastern soul has traditionally held them close to their big brothers, the Great Russians; their Western soul led desperate and rabid nationalists even to collaboration with Nazi Germany against Soviet Russia. Ukraine’s Western soul aspires to become part of Europe; its Eastern soul prefers a privileged relationship with Russia.
In 2004, the “Orange Revolution” swept pro-Western reformists into power in Ukraine. A year later the Kremlin’s man, Viktor Yanukovich, won out in the country’s first free parliamentary elections and became prime minister. The elections were a fatal flop for the Western-looking part of Ukraine and a confirmation of the traditional division of the country.
Lying in a strategic position at the crossroads between Europe and Russia, the Ukraine actually has three souls. Three currents have marked contemporary independent Ukraine: the linguistic, historical, pro-Russian soul; the nostalgic, big nation, central planning, pro-Soviet soul; and a vaguely democratic, free market, pro-Western soul. For many Russians and many Ukrainians, the two peoples are nearly one and Ukrainians are often referred to as “Little Russians.”
Russia was alarmed about the rapid move westwards of big and powerful Ukraine. In the 1990s, Ukraine contributed troops to peacekeeping in Kosovo in the Balkans. More recently it sent troops to Iraq. The Ukrainian government announcement in May 2002 of its intention to seek membership in United Europe, NATO and WTO was the last straw for Moscow.
Ukraine: West or East
One used to speak of geographic Europe extending to the Ural Mountains in Russia, with part of Russia in Europe and part in Asia. However the border between today’s United Europe (EU) and Russia is more a geopolitical affair, a question of power and influence.
Western Ukraine has close historical ties with Europe, particularly with Poland. Both Orthodoxy and the Uniate faith (Greek Catholic) have many followers there. Ukrainian nationalist sentiment has always been strongest in the westernmost parts of the country, which became part of Ukraine only when the Soviet Union expanded after World War II.
It is a different story in Eastern Ukraine. The Ukraine was the center of the first Slavic state, Kievan Rus, the cradle of Russia. During the 10th and 11th centuries Kievan Russia was the largest state in Europe, until it disappeared during the Mongol invasions. The cultural and religious legacy of Kievan Rus laid the foundation for Ukrainian nationalism throughout subsequent centuries. A Ukrainian state was established during the mid-17th century that, despite Muscovite pressure, remained autonomous for over 100 years. During the latter part of the 18th century, Ukrainian ethnographic territory was assimilated by the Russian Empire. Following the collapse of czarist Russia in 1917, Ukraine had a short-lived period of independence (1917-20), before it was re-conquered by Russia and absorbed into the Soviet Union, as the Ukrainian Soviet Socialist Republic.
A significant minority of the population of Ukraine are Russians or use Russian as their first language. Russian influence is particularly strong in the industrialized east of the country, where the Orthodox religion is predominant, as well as in Crimea, an autonomous republic on the Black Sea, which was long part of Russia.
After Russia, the Ukrainian Republic was the most important economic component of the former Soviet Union. Today Ukraine depends on imports of natural gas from Russia for its energy requirements. After independence in December 1991, the Ukrainian government initiated privatization, but widespread resistance within the government blocked reform efforts and led to some backtracking. By 1999, industrial output fell to less than 40 percent of the 1991 level. Ukraine's dependence on Russia for energy supplies and the lack of structural reform make its economy vulnerable.
Although Ukraine became independent after the dissolution of the USSR, democracy has remained elusive. Its ancient divisions have stalled efforts at the formation of a unified nation. In the final months of 2004, the massive pro-Western “Orange Revolution" overturned a presidential election rigged by pro-Russia exponents. The peaceful revolution brought about a new internationally monitored vote that swept into power a coalition of pro-Western reformists. Yet, the run-off presidential vote of 52 percent for pro-Western Viktor Yushchenko and 44 percent for outgoing pro-Russian Viktor Yanukovich again reflected the divisions in Ukraine between East and West.
Though the post-Communist era seemed truly closed, the change was illusory. The coalition government soon collapsed over disastrous economic policies, corruption and a dramatic gas war with Russia. The coalition dissolved also because the East and South of the nation prefer Russia and Ukraine’s past. Although the amount of trade with EU countries exceeds commerce with Russia, Russia remains Ukraine’s largest trading partner. Not only is Ukraine dependent on Russia for gas, it also forms an important link on the pipeline transit route for Russian gas exports to Europe.
Russia had retreated from Western Europe for 50 years. Now with its gas as a weapon, its retreat has ended. Since much of Europe’s economic future depends on Russia’s gas, European efforts at democratizing Russia have stopped. Only friendly relations count. Europe can no longer push hard for Ukrainian democracy.
Now, whoever emerges as the electoral victor, the tide in Ukraine has again turned eastwards. The impulse toward the West of the last 15 years has stopped. President Yushchenko said in an interview a few months ago that Ukraine’s choice is not between the West and Russia: Ukraine must have good relations with both. But were Russia to raise gas prices to Ukraine or cut supplies, the scene would change. In the contest between Russia on one hand and Europe-USA on the other, Moscow in a fair battle will always win.
But most certainly also pushy, abrasive, arrogant US foreign policy is a reason, too. For Russia, a Ukraine in the camp of the USA would be like Canada suddenly taking control of New England, or Mexico taking over Texas.
In reality, the European Union desires association with Ukraine. The European Parliament supports Ukraine's full membership in the WTO. The EU Parliament calls on neighboring states to "fully respect the democratic choice of the Ukrainian people and avoid any type of economic or other pressures with the goal of changing the new political and economic status of Ukraine. The European Parliament has also called upon any future coalition government in Kiev to consolidate Ukrainian commitment towards general European values, to advance democracy, human rights, civic society and the rule of law, continuation of market reforms and overcome political divisions in Ukraine. The European Parliament hopes to have an active relationship with Ukraine’s Verkhovna Rada (Parliament) and promises aid and support to Ukraine.
This all rings friendly and cooperative to Western-oriented Ukrainians. To Russia and eastward-looking Ukrainians, it sounds threatening, with an underlying note of economic blackmail, as is the cutting of US and European support to the Palestinian government of Hamas unless it toes the line.
And Russia, in reaction, has lent full support to its candidate, Yanukovich, who hopes to head a government coalition. In case of exclusion, he threatens revolt by the eastern and southern parts of the Ukraine, while Russia can either cut off the gas supply or raise its price.
So again Ukraine, besides being divided internally between East and West, is also crushed between pressures from its eastern and western borders.
The question of where the West ends and Russia begins is not unimportant for the rest of the world. Russia is again a global actor. Alongside India and China, Russia has assumed a protagonist role. Much of the empire is gone but Russia’s aspirations remain. Today Russia is showing its muscles in a game of hazards and risks. Moscow has tried at negotiation with Iran on the nuclear issue and strengthened its ties with Tehran. It is mediating with Hamas in Palestine.
Russia itself is an issue of global importance. A weak Russia is a danger for world balance of power. A strong Russia worries Washington; less so Europe. A strong Russia to counter uncontrollable American unilateralism appeals to much of the world. For many, Cold War at low risk is better than hot war in Iraq. Or nuclear threats launched at Iran. The disappearance of the USSR paved the way for “preemptive war America,” its hands free to strike when and where it likes. America is never friendlier with Russia than when it is divided, poor, its economy in shambles, its empire dismantled. Washington cannot control China or India. Nor in the end can it contain Russia.
Source: http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publ...cle_2490.shtml
In related developments:
Victor Murakhovski explained that the cost of maintaining military bases is determined by bilateral agreements. "Russia bears most of the cost and undertakes the supply of arms and equipment, training of military personnel with respect to the host countries. As far as I know, we do not pay for maintenances of the bases like the Americans do, we barter."
The expert does not think that the military base in Armenia may be shut down. "There is a motorized infantry brigade there, battalion S-300, and air squadron. This base ensures the territorial integrity of Armenia."
The use of unmanned aerial vehicles is becoming increasingly more important - no sanctions, no declaration of war. The Americans are flying over Iran to strike at Pakistan, Somalia, Yemen and other countries. Russian Federation will also pay more attention to this area.
The expert said that presence of Russian peacekeepers in Syria after Geneva-2 Conference was unlikely. "There were cases of attacks on Russian peacekeepers in South Ossetia, and everyone knows what it resulted in. Those who want to use peacekeeping forces for their own purposes really do not want the Russians present in Syria. Negotiators, especially from the West, will try to ensure that peacekeeping forces of the third countries are present, including India, Pakistan, and Japan," editor in chief of Arsenal of the Fatherland Victor Murakhovski concluded.
Source: http://english.pravda.ru/russia/kremlin/14-01-2014/126592-military_bases-0/#
German newspaper Bild wrote this weekend that Russia stationed several Iskander tactical ballistic missile systems - which are capable of carrying nuclear warheads - in its westernmost exclave of Kaliningrad, along the border with Baltic states. The paper said it obtained “secret satellite” images showing at least 10 Russian missiles close to the EU border, which were deployed over the past year.
Commenting on the matter, Moscow confirmed that it did station the missiles, which have been designated by NATO as SS-26 Stone, in the region.
“Rocket and artillery units of the Western Military District are really armed with Iskander tactical missile systems,” Maj. Gen. Igor Konashenkov, head of the Defense Ministry’s press service, told reporters on Monday.
“The concrete areas of the deployment of Iskander missile battalions in the Western Military District do not contradict any international agreements or treaties,” he added, as quoted by Interfax.
Lithuanian Defense Minister Juozas Olekas said earlier that he was concerned over the reports of Russian missiles near his country’s border. He added that the former Soviet state had discussed with its neighbors and NATO partners “how to react and protect” themselves, because “any incidents were hypothetically possible,” Delfi news website reported on Monday.
Source: http://rt.com/news/iskander-missile-deployment-russia-317/
The mightiest force on the high seas, the United States Navy boasts a fleet 283 warships strong. In comparison, Russia's navy, once America's archrival, has only 208 warships -- but Russia is closing the gap, and quickly. Just last week, in an interview with RIA Novosti, deputy commander of the Russian Navy Rear Adm. Viktor Bursuk confirmed plans to add 40 new vessels to the Russian fleet this year alone -- taking the fleet to within just 35 ships of U.S. fleet strength. Surface warships will make up the bulk of the additions, but a Borey-class nuclear-powered ballistic missile submarine and a Varshavyanka-class diesel-electric submarine are both on order as well. An advanced search-and-rescue ship, the Igor Belousov, will further backstop Russia's submarine forces by extending the country's ability to assist submarines in distress.
The Cold War is over. Now we're talking global warming
Source: http://rt.com/news/putin-address-military-russia-125/
Nevertheless, from a purely economic point of view, neither the Customs Union nor the planned Eurasian Union represent a real challenge for the United States and the other major economies. Together, Russia, Kazakhstan and Belarus produce just 4% of the global GDP, a figure that would only slightly change even in case of an eventual Ukrainian adhesion to the Union, currently discussed in Kiev. As a result, the process started by Minsk, Astana and Moscow may lead to the creation of a new pole able to successfully compete in the global economy only if post-Soviet integration will be in the framework of a greater Eurasian integration.
One of the means through which the Eurasian Union, to be established by 2015 by the members of the Customs Union, may achieve greater geo-economic significance is the creation of a network of infrastructures between Central Eurasia and the Southern periphery of the continent, that is between what geopolitics knows as Heartland and Rimland respectively. In this regards, the most geopolitically important achievement would undoubtedly be the construction of the Trans-Asian Corridor of Development, a Russian project for a super canal connecting the Kara Sea and the Persian Gulf that was presented in Tashkent during an international conference on innovative ideas in November 2008.
Envisaged by Damir Ryskulov, academician of the International Academy of Information and advisor to the Directorate of Analysis of the Moscow mayoralty, the Trans-Asian Corridor of Development is a major artery consisting of a canal, highway and railroad from Salekhard, on the Yamal Peninsula, to the Caspian Sea and on to the port of Bandar Abbas, on the Strait of Hormuz. If realized, this work would be the largest construction project in the history of mankind, as it would pass through Russia, Kazakhstan, Uzbekistan, Turkmenistan and Iran, leading to a dramatic improvement of the trade between Eastern Europe and Southern Asia.
According to Ryskulov, the Russian Urals region contains nearly one third of all surveyed reserves of mineral fuel and practically all Russian gas, but the freight traffic between Russia and the Asian countries follows some winding and therefore not particularly cheap routes. Hence the need of constructing a 6,600 kilometers super canal from the cold Kara Sea to the warm Arabian Sea, together with a highway from Salekhard to Kurgan, Arkalyk, Kzyl-Orda (with a branch off to Afghanistan via Kabul or Chakhabar and on to Pakistan), Dashoguz (with a branch leading to Sarakhs and on to the Persian Gulf via Iran) and Turkmenbashi, and a railroad from Salekhard to Dashoguz, passing through Kurgan, Arkalyk and Kzyl-Orda, with a branch off to Serakhs and another to Turkmenbashi.
The total cost for the realization of the project may amount to $100-150 billion, while the construction would take 15 years. Despite the almost complete lack of media attention to the project at the time when it was presented, the successes of post-Soviet integration and Russia’s increasing interest in the Middle East might soon lead to the Trans-Asian Corridor of Development taking centre stage. Only then, perhaps, the centuries-old ambitions of the Russian rulers to provide their country with an access to the warm seas will have a real chance to become a reality, and “Eurasia” will become synonym of a geo-economically integrated space stretching from the North Pole to the Indian Ocean.
Source: http://www.windowonheartland.net
Steady Decline of the US in the Middle East
Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice was so sure in 2006 that American domination in the broader Middle East would expand. She triumphantly declared amidst Israel’s 2006 war on Lebanon that the map of the Middle East would forever change to the profit of the United States. It did not, and Israel lost the war too. US influence began eroding, while the influence of its rivals began increasing. Hamas would become democratically elected by the Palestinian people to represent them. Not only would Hamas gain control over the Gaza Strip, but it would retain its control over the territory after the US would conspire with Israel, Saudi Arabia, Egypt’s Hosni Mubarak, the Palestinian warlord Mohammed Dahlan, and the impotent Mahmoud Abbas, president of the Palestinian Authority, to topple the Hamas government in Gaza. The economic blockade, political sabotage, a mini-civil war with Fatah, nor the series of wars launched by Israel have removed the Hamas-led government in Gaza. In Lebanon, Hezbollah’s influence would increase dramatically. The March 14 Alliance, the Hariri-led Lebanese entity sponsored by the US and its allies against Hezbollah, has proven to be impotent in its task of neutralizing Hezbollah and its political allies in Lebanon’s March 8 Alliance. Although politically-motivated reports keep touting that Hezbollah’s intervention in Syria has weakened it and hurt its popularity in Lebanon, in reality the situation is the opposite for the Lebanese group. An Israeli intelligence report authored by the Mossad has been forced to admit that Hezbollah has actually entered a golden age. All things considered, America’s plans to redraw the Middle East’s borders, intended to create smaller states that could easily be controlled by Washington as a means of maintaining its imperial order, is still nowhere to be found. Washington’s ‘New Middle East’ has not materialized. Nevertheless, it cannot be denied that the project’s flames are still burning in Iraq and Syria and it has made some sectarian inroads, which include the division of Sudan and the destabilization of North Africa.
Unraveling Empire
The US has not neutralized its two main adversaries in the Middle East. The objective of regime change in Damascus has failed and Washington did not unleash the might of the Pentagon on Syria. An interim nuclear deal was reached in the Swiss city of Geneva between America and Iran. The decisions by the United States not to go to war with Syria or to finally strike a deal with the Iranians are not the reasons for the unraveling of American power. American power was already on the decline. Washington struck deals involving Syria and Iran as a means of trying to maintain its influence in the broader Middle East and to actually slow the speed of its decline. Instead, America’s allies and clients are fuming and feeling scared. As a result of the declining power of the United States, Washington’s allies and clients are slowly diversifying their relationships. From Tel Aviv and Riyadh, the regional allies of the US realize that America’s imperial umbrella over them has begun to erode. They are looking for alternatives to the US patronage.
Russian Bear returns to Nile Delta?
The United States declared that it was partially cutting its military aid to Egypt on October 9, 2013. The move was described as part of a new US ‘recalibration’ in the Middle East. It was criticized by the Egyptian military as a hindering step that would weaken the Egyptian military while it was fighting rogue elements, particularly in the Sinai Peninsula. American aid to the Egyptian military has ebbed. The task has covertly been outsourced to the Kingdom of Saudi Arabia and the Arab petro-sheikhdoms of the Persian Gulf. All things considered, Washington can no longer afford to fund the Egyptian military. Cairo senses that America is in a state of decline too and has begun looking for alternatives to the US sponsorship. About one month after the US government partially suspended its military aid to Egypt, on November 11, 2013, a Russian missile cruise ship, the Varyag, made a port call to the Mediterranean docks of the ancient Egyptian city of Alexandria. Days later, this port call was followed by a Russian Navy auxiliary vessel docking at the Egyptian port of Safaga. The second Russian ship was the Boris Butoma, a naval supply or replenishment ship. Russia has not made a port call to Egypt since 1992 and it has not had a significant military presence in Egypt since the Soviet era during the Cold War. The Russian port calls were matched on the diplomatic levels by the Kremlin on November 13, 2013. Russian Foreign Minister Sergey Lavrov and Russian Defense Minister Sergey Shoigu arrived with large delegations to Egypt in what Lavrov described as a “historic” event. The two cabinet ministers were sent to Cairo by the Kremlin as feelers to get a sense of the mood in Egypt.
There are questions being asked about the Egyptian side’s intentions. Are Egyptian officials reaching out to Russia as a bargaining chip against the US or are they reaching out as a genuine alternative to the US? In other words, is Cairo turning to Moscow as a means of bargaining with Washington or as a response to US control and pressure? After the Russian visit to Egypt, US Secretary of State John Kerry returned to Egypt to protect US influence. It looks like Cairo wants flexibility and leverage against the US as a means of loosening Washington’s grip so that the Egyptian regime is not dragged down with the American sinking imperial order. The fall of the Muslim Brotherhood and dissolution of the regional alliance against Syria has sent a negative message to all of America’s allies and clients. Everyone in the region, corrupt and just alike, is more aware than ever that the US will not protect them. Instead they have noticed that those that are aligned with Iran and Russia are the ones that remain standing.
Russian Resurgence in the Middle East
The Russian Federation was already the second largest provider of arms to Egypt before the US government decided to partially cut back US military aid to Cairo. Russia is merely taking advantage of the retreat of the US to build and expand on the already existing Egyptian-Russian trade relationship. Nor is Egypt the only place that Russian arms manufactures are edging into. Iraq signed an arms deal with Moscow in 2012, which made Russia the second largest provider of military hardware to Iraq after the United States. Russia’s friendly relations with Iran and the entire Resistance Bloc have given it a level of leverage with Israel. The large population of Russian emigrants and Russian-speakers in Israel has added to Russia’s leverage. The presence of a large Russian-speaking community in Israel is one of the reasons that Israeli politicians visit Russia and go on Russian channels during election seasons. Furthermore, Moscow has been a member of the inept Middle East Quartet, which is supposed to mediate between the Israelis and Palestinians since it was created in 2002. New inroads have been made across the Middle East since 2011 for Russia and Russian influence in the Levant has steadily become entrenched. The Russian Federation has reinvigorated its ties to Lebanon and initiated a strategic dialogue with Lebanon’s Hezbollah. The Syrians are critically thankful to Moscow for its support. Along with Iran, Russia has been a major influence in Damascus and helped Syria withstand regime change. The terrorist attack on the Russian Embassy in Damascus is a testimony to Russia’s important influence. To call the magnification of the Russian profile in the Middle East a re-entrance of some sort is inaccurate. The Middle East has always been on the doorsteps of the Russian Federation. What is taking place is a new surge in Russian influence as the US recedes.
Source: http://www.globalresearch.ca/the-russian-bear-steps-in-as-the-american-empire-unravels-in-the-middle-east/5362887
About 50,000 Syrian Christians want to apply for Russian citizenship. In a letter to the Russian Foreign Ministry, they said that they were not planning to flee Syria, but if threatened with physical elimination, they would pin their hopes on Russia as the guarantor of their survival. Analysts think that despite the difficulties their request may involve, it won’t go unheeded.
The letter reached Moscow through diplomatic channels. It says that the West-backed terrorists are prepared to go to any lengths to wipe Christians out of Syria. The authors of the letter have no intention of fleeing the “land on where Jesus walked” and promise to defend their “homeland, dignity and faith”. They see Russia as the guarantor of “peace and stability”. They are not asking for money or humanitarian aid, but just hope to obtain Russian citizenship. “We will be under the protection of Russia if we face the threat of being physically eliminated by terrorists,” the letter says.
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According to the memorandum, the depositories intend to establish close business relations and to organise the exchange of information regarding securities received for servicing and changes in the documents regulating the record keeping systems’ operations. The parties also plan to exchange information regarding the technologies, standards and development plans they use and their participation in projects, working groups and other events of interest for both depositories.
Eddie Astanin, chairman of the executive board, NSD, commenting on the development, said: “Development of strategic partnerships with central securities depositories of the CIS countries is one of NSD's priorities as Russia’s central securities depository."
"Our joint work in the Association of Eurasian Central Securities Depositories contributes to it. We are sure that cooperation between Russia’s and Armenia’s central securities depositories will have a positive impact on the development of our countries’ financial markets. The signed memorandum will allow us to facilitate access to information about securities serviced by the Russian and Armenian CSDs. This will improve our markets’ transparency for investors in both our countries.”
In October 2011, the depositories signed an agreement on opening and maintaining the NSD’s nominee account with CDA. This allowed NSD clients to use safekeeping and record keeping services, as well as settlement services, on Armenian issuers’ securities.
I wish a happy, healthy and successful new year to all pragmatic Armenian nationalists around the world, but particularly to those that read this blog. More importantly, I hope to see the further flowering of Russian-Armenian relations in the coming year. I hope to see the great Russian nation become a beacon for humanity. I sincerely believe better times are ahead for our tiny and embattled homeland. We just need to be patient and engage in constructive activities in the meanwhile. I'm also looking forward to your active participation in the activities of this blog in the coming year. All the darkness in the universe cannot extinguish the light emanating from a single candle. We must therefore all do our part to become a source of light in the darkness of our times for we are all born of the Sun, we are Arevordi. In an Anglo-American-Zionist age of materialism, decadence, individualism and powerful distractions, I ask you all to remain clearheaded, politically active and unwavering in your convictions.
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Ամանորի և Սուրբ Ծնունդի տոների առթիվ մեր կողմից ցանկանում ենք ամենաջերմ մախթանքները ձեզ և ձեր հարազատներին:Արժանի գտնվենք Աստծո օրհնութայնը և աղոթենք, որ նա իրականացնի մեր արդար երազանքները և շռայլորեն պարգեւի մեզ գործերի հաջողութիւն, առողջութիւն, երջանկութիւն, միասնութիւն և երգար կյանք: Ավելի կարևոր,գալիք տարին լինի մեր երկրի համար աննախադեպ նվաճումների ժամանակաշրջան - Շնորհավոր Նոր Դարի և Սուրբ Ծնունդ - Վաղ թե ուշ հաղթանակը մերն է լինելու:
ReplyDeleteI am an Armenian of Istanbul and recenty moved to Canada. During all my life I prayed that Russia finds its historical role and its soul and finally under President Putin I saw my dream becoming true. I couldn't stop my tears while I watched examples like this ( http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pmSL9gkaa9Y ) and understood once again that there is only Russia or nobody else.
ReplyDeleteOf course Russia defends its interests and I studied Political Science / International Relations but who would have cared about the fate of the tiny Ossetian People during the August War in 2008 when every force in the Western World and even in Turkey were backing Georgia to annihilate them. Who would care about the Fate of Syria's Christians today? We can find thousands of examples in history and I say it always to my Armenian friends.I would even deny my own father if he was against Russia.
Your examples of Nationalist Chobans make me always laugh but also think about this notion. We have thousands of people who are of good will but because of the lack of knowledge of historical events or analysis on current affairs, they are manipulated by the West. I quarelled many times with people during discussions because without knowing anything they treated Russia as a traitor and the famous example is the retreat of Russian troops from Western Armenia in 1915.They don't know anything about the Bolshevik Revolution or who Lenin was but without reading a simple book they know everything.
You are right Dear Friend. Me too don't trust most of the Armenian people on political issues. They have ignorant masses.They would drive their Mercedes Cars in California and won't even visit Armenia once but will always be the big experts on everything. I would even not object that Armenia becomes a federal republic of the Russian Federation. I visited Armenia 6 times and I like the land and its people very much. I love it and love it. I saw what our elders didn't see during their lifetime. A state of our own and it survives thanks to our brotherly Orthodox Christian Russia.
Finally I want to thank you once again and wish you success in every minute of your life. I fluently speak Turkish; French;English and German (unfortunately very few Armenian ) If you need anything could be a translation or anything else which will be helpful to your work then never hesitate to contact me. Helping you in your holy work will be considered by me as a service to God.
Dear reader,
DeleteYour comments were the best new year gift I received this year. Thank you from the bottom of my heart. Please chose a name we can identify you with and begin participate in the discussions here, I would love to hear more of our ideas.
PS: Maybe in the future I will take advantage of your gracious offer to translate some of my work.
Marry Christmas to you Anonymous.
DeleteVery powerful words anonymous. Welcome to this small but lively group Arevordi has here.
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Indeed the financiers of the protests in Maidan are paying people between 40-50$ for 12 hrs of protesting. At least according to my Ukrainian friend, who's family friend was offered this sum to travel to Kiev.
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Not counting the vodka and sal. and you know how many will appear for that in cold Ukraine.
DeleteI am anxiously waiting how Georgia's U-turn is going to play out. I am hearing little things but nothing concrete. Another really interesting development was Romania's president's statement that Moldova is part of Romania. It is in a way, but the timing is funny, it's like once they signed that EU AA and there are claims to take them over. that should be a warning to Georgia, how unprotected they will become soon.
ReplyDeleteI think Georgians want to play hard and get some concessions from Russia about Abkhazia and S. Ossetia. But Russians will not give them much. So interesting to see what compromise Lavrov will find to make a deal.
T.K.
Very timely post Arevordi. You raise a very interesting post about Staling and Jews. Are you saying his pogroms were against Jewish control in Bolshevik party?
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Yes Arto, Stalin cleaned the house, and there was a lot of collateral damage too, sadly.
DeleteArto,
ReplyDeleteWhat I have raised here is a very important topic and one that has to be better understood by us all - including and especially by Russians themselves. Maybe TK might disagree with me, at the risk of sounding arrogant, I think I may be one of the very few people around today that has made the observation that Joseph Stalin's purges and the Second World War helped ethnic Russians go up in the ranks of government and "Russify" the Bolshevik/Communist party.
Stalin was a very shrewd but a power hungry and paranoid lunatic that did not trust anyone and he used his position in Moscow to lash out against those that he thought posed a political threat to him. Being that the core of Bolshevism at the time (1920s and 1930s) was Jewish, Stalin's purges during the 1930s ended up impacting this Jewish constituency. I don't think he was specifically targeting Jews, he was simply targeting a group of powerful individuals that just happened to be Jews for the most part. Therefore, by the start of the Second World War, the Jewish factor in Moscow was already severely weakened, although large numbers of Jews in the lower echelons of government continued to operate.
A more important role, however, was played by the Great Patriotic War. The patriotic fervor that the Second World War (recall that Stalin at the time even reopened Orthodox Churches and asked the Russian people for help) helped ethnic Russians come into government structures in large droves. By the 1950s, Communism was for the most part "Russified". However, again, this does not mean Jews did not exist in Soviet structures: they were there, but mostly kept a low profile. Some of these low level functionaries once again rose to prominence, this time as so-called "oligarchs", when the Soviet Union collapsed.
Anyway, I may be wrong, but if we put aside Andropov's very short lived rule in the 1980s, I think Vladimir Putin is the first ethnic Russian leader we have seen in Russia since Czar Nikolas II. That should tell us quite a bit about politics in post Czarist Russia...
Thanks Arevordi and T.K.
DeleteI never looked at Stalinian purges and the WWII from angel. I mean it was there to be seen but I didnt connect the dots. It does make alot of sense. Your words that all the nice thing we remember about communism comes after it russification really hit home with me.
Khrushchev, Yeltsin and Brezhnev were ethnic Russian. Though Brezhnev was partially Ukrainian.
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Yeltsin, I am not too sure but as far as I know Kruschev and Brezhnev were not ethnic Russians.
DeleteKhruschev is considered khakhol (ukrainian), it is very much questionable if his parents were russian. most Russians say he is not. Same goes for Breznev, he is from Moldova, maybe half khakhol.
DeleteYeltzin as much as know is Russian.
Khruschev was half crazy, he had Anastas MIkoyan taking care of important matters while in reign. Anastas is the brother of famous MIG developer Mikoyan. He was a good diplomat and was the economy minister during Stalin times. he was responsibly for supplying the army during WWII. Stalin trusted him. Anastas made name during Cuban crisis as he was the main negotiator of USSR in those turmoil times with USA. Made multiple trips to USA. He was also must trusted politician in the eyes of USA. He attended JFK funeral. He got Castro to come down and removed nuclear weapons form the island. He also secured removal of nuclear missiles from turkey from USA side.
Breznev in the beginning of his reign was a good leader and made some necessary reforms. Anyone who lived in USSR in 70s remembers that those were the best times. some say it was the real communism. People could live decently with salary, had 1 month vacation. had apartments given to them free. some could buy cars real cheap. Education, Health care and utilities were free.
However, later on Brezneve became a puppet and new leaders such as Shevardnadze and Aliev came to power. they made the USSR most corrupt country in the world and brought it to its knees. By the time Gorbachev came to power he basically had no choice but to sell the country to others. there was hunger and social unrest. the country was on the brink of another revolution.
Putin has said that the break up of the USSR was the biggest mistake. I think if there was a leader like Putin in 80s, we would have had whole other world now. USSR could have followed China's example and made the country half capitalistic.
T.K.
Thank you for the clarification, TK. Like I said, Putin is the first real leader of Russia since the last Czar.
DeleteBasing my opinion on what I have been able to observe, Brezhnev's rise in the Kremlin began the Soviet Union's demise. The 1970s were good because of the post-Stalinian socioeconomic policies of Khruschev. Every well read/intelligent person I have talked to agree that the Soviet Union began its downward spiral either because of Brezhnev or during his time in power.
Yes, Putin called the breakup of the Soviet Union a tragedy. But his other comment about communism is even more profound. Putin said (I'm paraphrasing): Those who celebrate the fall of communism are heartless, those who want it back are brainless.
Who knows what would have happened had someone like Putin been in power in the Soviet Union in the 1980s... Despite all its positives, the Soviet Union was a deeply flawed political system that was to crash sooner-than-later. Someone like Putin may have prolonged the inevitable but the system was rigid and not sustainable and thus would not last long. The only major problem I have with the Soviet Union's demise is 'how' it happened and 'how fast' it happened: It was basically a free fall crash.
PS: The point you raised about the US withdrawing its missiles from Turkey in exchange for the Soviet Union taking out its missiles from Cuba is little known in the US. Except for historians in the US, perhaps 100% of the people do not know that very important piece of information. Washington has always wanted the sheeple to think that the "Soviet Union backed down against US threats". If I'm not mistaken, JFK's administration had even asked Soviet leaders not to disclose that such a deal had taken place...
Khruschev heavily depended on Mikoyan. You may even say Mikoyan ruled the country and had more power at that time. Mikoyan is also known as the only one who was not afraid to talk back to Stalin and bring back Khruschev to reality. Breznev clan took Khruschev out to weaken Mikoyan. Basically after Stalin was ousted Mikoyan was the most experienced and feared in Politburo.
DeleteAfter Mikoyan's retirement Armenia lost it's influence in USSR elite. Contrary Azeri Aliev and Georgian Shevarnadze came to power. this is very important as we can't afford similar scenario again. We got Lavrov now and we have strategic friendly relations with Russia. We can't let this to change.
T.K.
Not only do we need to preserve the current relationship between Russia and Armenia at all costs - we must also work to turn it into an institutionalized relationship. In other words, we cant continue relying on "personal relationships" as in the past for as you know people come and go. Our relationship with Russia has to be reflected in major scientific, cultural, political and military institutions.
DeleteWhen we talk about western and eastern Ukraine we have to recognize that the western part is the poor Ukraine. People living there are not as educated, they have no industry or technology. Mostly like Romania. Eastern Ukraine has 3 major industrial cities, Kharkov, Dnepropetrovsk and Donetsk. Those are the money making cities with vibrant life and growing business atmosphere. Kiev as always is a nice city with divided population but a great potential. Crimea is the heart of tourism industry with nice beaches and hotels. So the western part of Ukraine except Lvov is like a dead valley for business. Lvov and i might say here has the oldest Armenian church in the europe is a nice city but people there are called benders and if you want to do business there better beware. they are the masters in cheating art. the western ukraine has no future without the east. they will become a province of romania if separated. and we all know that romania is the poorest state in europe.
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ReplyDeleteNo disagreement at all. Stalin did what he had to do. the way bolsheviks came to power in 1917 was in no way less than what Stalin did. Nobody talks about how many they killed. they basically beheaded the Russian aristocracy.
But Beria did target a lot of innocent people, there ware many talented people who were sent to Siberia for no reason at all. not counting executions. Stalin was not aware of the scope Beria's imagination.
T.K.
Arevordi
ReplyDeleteImportant historical fact about Vlad the great who converted Russians to christianity and married to Anna, Basil II's daughter, are rebutted by some russian historians who believe Basil was a Slav. they base their opinion on Arab's count but it is apparent that Basil and Macedonian Dynasty had an Armenian origin. What's your take on this? Do you know more about this?
While there are diverging opinions amongst historians regarding Basil II's heritage, most of the literature I have personally read on him suggests that he is of Armenian heritage - at least in part.
DeleteThe English Byzantinist John Bagnell Bury dismissed claims of him being of Slavic origin on the basis that the Arabs viewed all Macedonians as Slavs (Saqaliba)
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Here are links to Tashir Music Awards ceremony. this is once a year awards, traditionally performed in Moscow Kremlyovski concert hall, most prestigious avenue in Russia.
ReplyDeleteMost Russian Armenians are there, always guests from Russian government, Medvedev attended back 3 years ago and I think Putin was present on the first one.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4X5ECbdw6ek
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YU4rhg8jgyY
here is a link to our famous Arno Babajanyan's 90 yr memory concert, also in Russia
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=vnBzI5ntIrM
here is a link to Aram Khachaturyan's "Sabre Dance" performed by Kreml orchestra
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3G-A6i_d69k
the last one is preformed much better by our orchestra.
Enjoy
T.K.
here is a link to Russian Channel 1 reportage of Putin's visit to Armenia
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ydOKL3vabZY
this is another link from NTV
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Ya9wqW-Pxbc
here is a link to Sargsyan's answer to azeri a-hole
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Wu-UZn3KvG0
T.K.
here is about armenians and armenoid gene in the world by russian experts
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=sPs-XbdIN9k
another russian expert about Byzantine and Armenians
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=2GQj6mU1vN0
same expert about armenian kozaks in Crymea.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=enD2cFKytOE
this is from a serious Academia channel in Russia, not BS.
T.K.
This is Russian tv about masons and angloamericanzionists
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZ0-4rDBxZw
here is about Lenin
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7ZtY53A76RU
T.K.
I'm very glad you posted this information, TK. This all should be looked at as tools and venues where we Armenians can cultivate and institutionalize Russo-Armenian relations and sow the seeds of deeper political collaboration between our two peoples. All that you have posted is the natural by product of the historically good relations we have had with our Orthodox brothers to the north. But we need to take this to the next level.
DeleteGreat article. I've been reading this blog for almost two years now. How many visitors do you get a month?
ReplyDeleteOver ten thousand visitors per month.
Deletehttp://www.rferl.org/content/russia-putin-momentum-2014/25218196.html
ReplyDeleteUnhappy that Putin kicked their asses in 2013, they are now making all sorts of excuses and predicting a rough year for Putin and Co in 2014. I believe this is another sign of desperation.
LG
" He's not really got a strategy for how to deal with the opposition, how to deal with the long-term economic problems that are looming over Russia."
DeleteI'll let Brother Nathaneal respond to the Italian-American cunt from Jew York University.
Petrodollar Scam Breaking Down
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mpJmk7Q_vw4
Seriously, this idiotic article claims Putin focused on foreign policy because he is allegedly "weak" at home... If that theory is true, then what does it say about the American government when its mouthpiece "radio lunacy" launches attacks against the Russian economy instead of focusing on the steadily decaying US economy, the single largest and most corrupt institution in the world?
Once you understand their headgames/psychops, you realize how amateur and petty these assholes are. Doesn't reflect too brightly on their loyal audience.
LG,
ReplyDeleteThey hope they can get Russia down by talking it down.
Here is an article about the oil industry in Russia, the author is grudgingly conceeding that despite all the gloom and doom talk by the West, the industry is doing better and better.
http://www.forbes.com/sites/markadomanis/2014/01/03/russias-oil-industry-is-doing-ok-which-is-good-news-for-the-kremlin/
Does anyone know more about Amalekites?
ReplyDeletehttp://www.stormfront.org/forum/t165201/
Does anyone know about this, Ramses being Armenoid?
http://www.thephora.net/forum/archive/index.php/t-78495.html
T.K.
PS. As much as i read, it seems like we know only 10% of about our ancestors.
I used to post a lot of material on Stormfront many years ago. You can still find my stuff there if you search username "Armenian" and "Armenoidandproud". I suggest you don't take Stormfront too seriously, they are mostly a bunch of psychologically troubled white kids with nasty attitudes and very little intellectual capacity... but you can find a lot of good information being posted there. You just need to be able to sift through all the bullshit to find the gems.
ReplyDeleteThat being said, there is a lot of misleading information about Armenoids. First, the term itself is one man's creation and is not scientifically established. Moreover, the Armenoid type is at times placed in the Semitic/Jewish category by some racists.
In my opinion, the following is a better way to describe "Armenoids": A subspecies of the white race that developed/bred in the Armenian Highlands/Anatolia during prehistory. Phenotypes that mixed and bred type in question may be "Alpine", "Mediterranean" and "Dinaric". I personally see a lot of Alpine and Dinaric types in our people. Do a photo search of phenotypes Alpine and Dinaric and you will see what I mean. Also in my opinion, the type associated with Armenoids may actually be the ancient Aryan type.
More importantly, while most Armenians are Armenoid, most Armenoids are not Armenains.
Nevertheless, this phenotype (the human type that was bred in the ancient Armenian Highlands) seems to be one of the most prolific, most successful human types in the world. The 'epicenter' of the type is naturally the Armenian Highlands. The further out you go from that point the less numerically dominant the type becomes. Having said that, you can find 'native' Armenoids from the British Islands to Japan, from Scandinavia to north Africa. Armenoids can even be found amongst American Indians. If you know what you are looking for, look at some old pictures or drawings of American Indians and you will notice Armenoid features. Many of the great civilizations in world history have Armenoid roots: Hittite, Sumerian, Urartian, Assyrian, Hyksos, Etruscan, Hebrew, Hurrian, Phoenician, Greek, ancient Persian, ancient Indian, etc. Many of the great men in world history, including European history, exhibit strong Armenoid physical traits. Again, if you know what you are looking for, if you look closely at portraits of great European men, you will find significant numbers of Armenoid traits in them. In fact, very-very few of the great men in Europen history have had the typical blonde and blue eyed features. Until fairly recently in Europe, the Armenoid type tended to be nobility, whereas the blond/blue eyed type was peasantry. It is natural that large numbers of Armenoids are also found in Turks and Kurds...
Anyway, if you asked me this questions about ten years ago, I would have probably written you a ten-thousand word essay on genetics but I have forgotten a lot of what I had researched back then...
PS: From what I recall, for Jews, the Amalek were arch-rivals/enemies of Jews. The term may have taken on metaphorical values later in Hebrew historiography, a term more-or-less used as a category meaning enemy within which many nations could be placed. Historically, Armenians were also considered Amalek by Jews. No one know why this is. Perhaps, this rivalry between Jews and Armenian started back when Palestine and the greater Levant was occupied by nations from the Armenian Highlands, nations such as the Hyksos, Hitties and Hurrians. If I am not mistaken, Hebrews may have bought Jerusalem from one of these "Armenoid" nations. Mind you that most of what I am saying is conjecture.
thanks Arevordi
Deletehistory seems to be rewritten so many times for special purposes that it is hard to find a reliable information. Sometimes i think Mashtots giving us an alphabet may have been a plot too. We had 3000 years of history before Mashtots and than all of a sudden new language. what happened to pre-mashtots writings?
I am posting all those videos as i know some of us live far in N. America and don't have access to all that has been done and being done to straighten RussoArmenian relations on all levels.
We mainly read what opposition has to say, but they are minority and living here for last 2.5 years i can assure you there is a lot being done. Armenian diaspora in Russia is very active. these people accomplished more in last 20 years than american diaspora did for 100 years.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4I1JGQEDnlk
Here is a reporting about Artsakh on Russian tv, notice they show armenians dancing qochari in berlin on may 9, 1945 and later in Sushi on may 9, 1994.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0gOioxi_to
T.K.
Qristos hariav i merelots
ReplyDeleteI was watching this movie just now on Armenian TV and thought about sharing
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=s5vWxcd0vFs
I have grown in USSR being an atheist and Darwinist, i remember my grandma (who was a deeply religious person) always praying astvats prki es anhavatin.
Later in in my life i remember times when i thought we should have been like muslims, bloodthirsty and ruthless. We should have believed the sun as it is the creator of life. we should have been pagan and worship our old gods.
Now i think if we had one national oath that i would sign up to and carry in my blood that would be an oath that has a lot common to christian commandments. Christianity we like it or not runs in our veins. This churches here in Armenia will always stand and in the worst day like Sardarapat will unite us to fight any enemy.
Share your thoughts on this subject.
T.K.
TK, I now see that you were indeed a Bolshevik once LOL
Delete"Qristos hariav i merelots" (Christ has risen from the grave) is an Easter greeting. Christmas greeting is: Qristos tsnav ev haytnetsav - dzez ev mez mets avetis.
Regarding Darwinism: It is one of the biggest hoaxes played on humanity. It takes more faith to believe in the fairytales of Darwin than it does to believe in Santa Clause. Darwinian evolution DOES NOT exist. It's pseudo-science. There is not a shard of evidence to support its magnificent claims. It's all based on the imagination of its peddlers and a lot of conjecture. It's theory, a belief, not much unlike religion. Don't worry, I am not a Christian fundamentalist: I think the Old Testament is a compilation of ancient Middle Eastern politics mixed with Near Eastern faiytales - all of course from a Hebrew perspective.
What I am saying here is that no, the world was not "created in six days" but humanity, ecology and the cosmos did not "evolve from nothing" and it is not a "by-product of chance". And no, our ancestors were not monkeys, or single celled organism. We are all the product of INTELLIGENT DESIGN. The who, what, when, where, why or how, I do not know.
Most often, people confuse "micro" evolution with "macro" evolution. Micro evolution is biologically programmed into living creatures. Micro evolution is an organism's ability to adapt to its environment: Like one's skin darkening as a result of sun exposure, like animals growing fine fur to keep them warm in winter climates. Macro evolution, on the other hand, is the stupid belief that a species can evolve into other species over time and under certain conditions. Monkeys turning into humans is what macro evolution is about. This is one of the biggest lies fed to humanity.... thanks of course to an Anglo (Darwin even doubted his own fairytale) and his Jewish peddlers.
To me, Orthodox Christianity is my cultural expression and my identity. I believe in the existence of the supernatural (spiritual world), I also believe in the existence of God - but I am not yet ready to claim to know God's name, gender, nature or home address.
Regarding Christianity: Had Armenians remained pagans, they would have been something like Yezdis today. Had Armenians converted into Islam, they would have been something like Kurds today. No thank you. Regardless of how Christianity was started and spread in Armenia, Christianity today is an integral part of Armenian culture and identity. Christianity made us different and helped us develop a national identity that helped us preserve our kind in an Islamic sea. Moreover, our faith made us look to western/European civilization for inspiration. Attacks against Christianity will only weaken Armenians/Armenia. A weakened Christianity in Armenia today will only cause the further spread of Atheism and Globalization/Westernization in the country. In my opinion, Armenians who attack Armenian Christianity are ultimately a threat to Armenia.
For those of us who miss Armenian Paganism, let me just say this: Christianity, Armenian Christianity in particular, is a form of Zoroastrianism. Christ was NOT the messiah Jews were waiting for. Christ's Gospel had noting to do with the Jewish Tanakh (known as the Old Testament by Christians). If you train yourself to see through the fog of modern atheism and two thousand years of church propaganda, you will realize that Christianity is much-much more pagan than Jewish. If this topic interests you, please see my blog about "Rediscovering Christianity".
Just think: As the Jewish king Herod was looking for the Christ child to kill it, three ZOROASTRIAN priests from either Persia or Armenia were traveling to Palestine to WORSHIP the newly born Christ. This is the most profound yet virtually unknown message of Christmas.
Arevordi
DeleteRediscovering Christianity was a great read, you really connected all the dots, In dept analysis of Mithraism was an eye opener.
As to my Bolshevik past, LOL, it started out when they made me wear a red tie in 3rd grade and a komsomol star in 8th grade. that was the end of it, as i learned and decide to be a free men. Off course anyone aiming for an office had to become communist in USSR, luckily i had no such desire.
Switching the subject to Armenia-Iran ties. I see a lot of iranians coming to Yerevan mainly to have a drink and spent their new year. If with russians locals are happy and hospitable, with iranians it is more like aggressive. Partly because they get drunk and act stupid, but partly because there is mutual distrust. How do we deal with this problem. Armenia-Iran ties are also very important and i think iranian-armenians have to play a role here.
T.K.
Arevordi,
DeleteSometimes it's as if you're reading my mind. My thoughts on Christianity is very close to yours. There simply is no relation between the God of the Old Testament who is cruel and punisher with that of the New Testament who is good.
With all its faults at the beginning, Christianity secured our nation's identity. Had we stayed pagan we would have most probably been considered Persians by now.
In today's world, Catholics hate Orthodox Christians more than Muslims.
PS: Happy Belated New Year and Merry Armenian Christmas to all readers.
Welcome back Svediatsi,
DeleteIf you haven't done so, please read my Blog Rediscovering Christianity and ask me any question that may come up. In the blog I try to reveal that Christ was NOT the messiah of the Jews. Out Triune God and Christianity have little if any similarities to Judaism. The fusion of the Jewish Torah with the Christian Gospels was a political move. It was a Roman imperial agenda to unite the empire's large Jewish and pagan communities. Therefore, Christianity, as we know it today, is a result of Roman politics. Christ and Christianity are the Palestinian expressions of the mysteries of the ancient world and theosophical values first spread by Buddhism and Zoroastrianism. Christ and his religion is only truly appreciated and understood when looked at in a Zoroastrian and Buddhist context.
Anyway, Christianity was the best thing that happened to us for as you know, in 650 AD Persia converted to Islam without a fight. Had we Armenians turned back to Zoroastrianism in the aftermath of Vardanants in 450 AD, we would most probably become Muslims as well, and would most probably be counted today as one of the many small Islamic tribes in Turkey, Iran and Russia. And if we remained pagan, we would have either been persecuted into extinction or simply become a Yezdi-like small tribe somewhere in the region today.
Svediatsi,
DeleteWhy do you think Catholics hate Orthodox? If anything, it is Protestant's who have turned a blind eye to the suffering facing Eastern Christians.
Arevordi:
Why did you include Buddhism as an influence upon early Christianity?
LG
Svediatsi is right in that historically, when the Vatican was the Washington of Europe and Catholicism was Europe's Democracy, there were a lot of anti-Russian political agendas being formulated in Rome. Catholic Europe always conspired against, feared and looked down at Orthodox Russia. In recent times, the Vatican's attention was turned onto Protestants, but they lost that battle when as a result of Napoleon's and Hitler's defeat in Europe a new Anglo-American-Zionist global power came into being. Today, the Anglo-American global order - with its Zionistic infestation, looks down on the rest of the world.
DeleteBuddhism is the precursor to Zoroastrianism. Both are very ancient Aryan religions. Zoroastrianism is the precursor to Christianity, as well as Judaism and Islam to a lesser degree. Go to my Rediscovering Christianity blog and read the post about parallel saying of Buddha and Christ. A lot of the theosophical values of Christianity are Buddhist and Zoroastrian in nature.
LG,
DeleteThe Catholic church (and the protestants) had many chances to prove that they were by their Orthodox brothers.
For one, they pursued a hostile policy towards Orthodox Byzantium most of the time. The most obvious one was in 1204 when the Venetian crusaders decided to attack Constantinople instead of going all the way to Jerusalem. For a few decades they pillaged the city and brought various spoils and valuables to their city.
Another notable historical fact was when Armenian Nationalist Israel Ori went to Europe for help (he even served as a soldier in the French Army). He went to Catholic France, the Vatican, and yes, to Protestant Germany (you have a point regarding the protestants) and guess what? they all spat on his face. When he finally reached Orthodox Russia, the Czar was more than willing to help. Although he sadly died before the offensive of the Caucasus, he at least set the main principle in Russia's mind to come to the Caucasus. Since then, Eastern Armenia lived very prosperous under Russian rule.
The idea that Catholics find Muslims (especially radical Sunnis) more friendly than Orthodox Christians can be seen during events in the 20th century:
1. The total rejection of Armenians' plea for help during the Genocide.
2. The fake promises by the French of giving the Armenians an independent Cilicia, which was quickly handed back to the turks.
3. The handing over of the Iskenderun region to turkey (today's Hatay Province) by the French, something which angered the Alawites more than the Armenians of that region. (Again, preference of sunni turks over Alawites or Christians)
4. The masterminding of the Armenian Genocide by the british (don't be fooled that they were fighting the turks, it was all part of a plan of destroying turkey's economy by getting rid of the Armenians, at the same time securing turkey's new territorial integrity and many other reasons (no Armenians in Western Armenia = no question of handing Western Armenia to the Armenians). For more, read "Armenians are Impossible", an interview with Lawrence of Arabia
http://armenians-1915.blogspot.com/2008/05/2471-armenians-are-impossible-interview.html
5. The total neglection of the fate of the Christians in Iraq, Syria, Egypt, and more-or-less Lebanon(they only hold on to a faction of the Maronites because they still have gains from there) and the direct support to the Sunni radicals in Syria, Iraq, as well as the backing of radical Sunni states(rich in oil = $$$) such as Saudi Arabia, Qatar, UAE, Kuwait, Bahrain etc. As a result, Christianity is gradually being removed from the Middle East.
6. The support of Chechen radicals against Orthodox Russia.
7. The cultural destruction of Orthodox Greece through their "Western" values.
8. The silence over turkey's invasion on Cyprus.
9. The bombing of Orthodox Serbia in favor of Sunni Albania.
10. Finally, siding with azerbaijan against Armenia.
and the most classical example of all is the countless times they tried to invade and conquer Russia throughout history, to which they miserably failed.
These are just some of the main points regarding Catholic (and Protestant) hatred towards Orthodox nations.
PS: There was a talk once of a Russian-led Orthodox Union. Does anyone know if such talks were true?
I might add to this that Vatican has been sending missionaries to Russia (even deep into Siberia) from 11th,12th centuries trying to steer up conflict and covert them to Catholicism. Russia was weakened in 13th century after mongol invasion. Using the opportunity Poles and Lithuanians under the guide of Vatican have repeatedly attacked Russia in 14th and 15th centuries taking over most of western Russia. They even allied with Tatars in Crimea to fight Russians (Lithuanian duke had a tatar force as his personal bodyguards, if you visit Trakai even to this day, locals are tatars). Only in 16th and 17th centuries Russia regained control and eventually made Poland a vessel state in 18th century. All those wars were essentially catholic-orthodox wars. This also affected us as Armenians. In 18th century Russia was going to finish off Ottomans but was convinced by Prussia to abandon the Ottoman plans and take Poland instead, letting Ottomans off the hook to consolidate power.
DeleteT.K.
Svediatsi and T.K., absolutely brilliant. Could not have said it any better myself. Very, very good posts!
DeleteOn a related topic, I'd like to remind everyone that the Armenians who, throughout the centuries, were foolish enough to convert to Catholicism, Protestantism or Greek Orthodox assimilated into oblivion within a generation or three.
And don't forget that in the immediate aftermath of World War 1, Catholic Italy secretly armed muslim turkey in order to smash Greece and prevent the Greeks from rivaling the Italians in the Mediterranean. Time and again the various "Christians" of the west have proven that they prefer allying with muslims over rival Christians, and Armenians are their most hated, and feared, rivals.
Also, the "true believers" of western Christianity (ie the duped idiots of their flocks) absolutely despise Armenians as view us as heretics to be destroyed. Case in point is the dead turcophile Samuel A. Weems, who authored an anti-Armenian book called "Armenia: Secrets of a 'Christian' Terrorist State". In the demented mind of Weems, barbaric muslim turks are infinitely better than Armenian "infidels". From what I have heard he highlights "Christian" in the title to emphasize his hatred for the Armenian Orthodox Church... BTW the faggot had a turkish whore as a wife.
Upon reflection, I am glad their beloved sunni partners are now beginning to colonize their former western masters homelands.
Sorry guys, but I find your treatment of the East West Christian divide to be quite simplistic. Moreover, many of you gloss over intra-Western rivalries. For example, the Catholic French partnered with the muslim ottomans in the 16th century against. Catholic Spain. Or how about the series of naval wars (Protestant) England fought against with (Protestant) Holland.
DeleteOn the Eastern Christian side, Bulgaria has fought wars against Greece, Serbia, and Romania. Russia and Georgia have fought, and Armenia and Georgia have fought wars in the past.
The fact is religion has played a secondary role to economics and geopolitics for most of recorded history when it comes to the root causes why nations and tribes have fought one another.
I do not disagree that the West has worked against Eastern Christians in the past or even currently but I do not regard it being driven primarily by religious factors, rather by geopolitical and economic ones. In the 19th century the British and French didn't want to see the Russians completely subdue the ottomans because it would possibly threaten their interests in northern Africa, the Near East, India, and the Mediterranean.
LG
LG,
DeleteI don't think anyone here is being simplistic, other than perhaps responding to the simplistic question: Why do you think Catholics hate Orthodox?
No one here is discussing historical details such as the Vatican's internal problems during times when it was a global power. You need to understand that historically (prior to the modern era) "Catholic" meant "Vatican". Therefore, Catholicism was the pursuit of a Vatican agenda - like Democracy today means Western agenda. Therefore, this conversation is NOT about Catholicism per se.
The Catholic West has been against Orthodox East for hundreds of years, going back to Rome's East/West split. It is a fact that when the term "Catholic" was a political establishment in the "Western" world, it was opposed to Orthodoxy and resorted to drastic measures to undermine Orthodox powers. Although the Vatican is no longer calling the shots around the world, it still nevertheless has some powerful influences (financial, sociopolitical and cultural) as well as an agenda that is global in nature.
Although the world is for the most part governed by realpolitik (i.e. no enemies, no friends, only interests), influences of culture and civilization (e.g. east vs west, north vs south, old vs new) still have great impact on international relations and political agendas.
A simplistic question perhaps, but it was asked because of a simplistic comment "In today's world, Catholics hate Orthodox Christians more than Muslims."
DeleteThe answer to my question was not properly addressed because as I pointed out above, it glosses over historical facts that do not fit its purported paradigm. Therefore it is unlikely that it will be addressed properly. The Catholic Church has lost influence with each passing century since the 15th century. And as you pointed out, they no longer call the shots. In fact, an argument can be paid that the Catholic Church is not the same post Vatican II, it has become more Judaic and Internationalist in substance.
Also, am I the only one here who remembers that it has been Eastern Orthodox Christians historically and even currently that have tried the hardest to undermine the Armenian Apostolic Church as well as Armenian kingdoms of the past?
This conversation may not be about Catholicism per se, but it has featured several blanket statements that do not stand up to the fire.
LG
"Also, am I the only one here who remembers that it has been Eastern Orthodox Christians historically and even currently that have tried the hardest to undermine the Armenian Apostolic Church as well as Armenian kingdoms of the past?"
DeleteLG please give me some details about currently undermining.
I just want to understand you better.
T.K.
LG,
DeleteYou in fact answered your own question by bringing up Vatican II. Whereas in the pre-modern era the Vatican conspired against Orthodoxy for homegrown reasons, they cannot be trusted today because they have been usurped by the Anglo-American-Zionist alliance. I wonder how its immense wealth is managed and by whom. The Vatican today is simply a tool of the Western elite.
So the simplistic answer to the simplistic question that Svediatsi's simplistic comment evoked is: Simply put, the Catholic establishment simply cannot be trusted.
And who said Greek Orthodoxy was good for Armenians/Armenia? Historically, Greeks were the fundamental reason why - Armenia first and Byzantium second - were lost to Turks. But what do Greeks have to do with weather or not we can trust the Vatican? No need to bring up Greeks in this debate.
Once more: When the Vatican was the Washington of Europe and Catholicism was Europe's Democracy, there were a lot of anti-Russian/anti-Orthodox political agendas being formulated throughout Rome and Europe. The Vatican always conspired against, feared and looked down at Orthodoxy, and of course Islam. In more recent centuries, the Vatican's attention was turned towards Protestants, who were looked at as an internal problem. The Vatican essentially lost its battle against Protestantism when Bismark unified Germany and made it into a major secular power and when Napoleon and Hitler were defeat in Europe by the rise of a new Anglo-American-Zionist global power. And like you said, the Vatican's deathblow came as a result of Vatican II.
TK,
DeleteLG is right. I have written a lot about this topic in the past. From a historical and political perspective, I have no love for Greeks. The relationship we have with Turks today is almost identical to the relationship we have had with Byzantine Greeks one thousand years ago.
I don't want to get too much into it, but Byzantines (which of course included many converted Armenians) actively pursued the policy of depopulating Armenia at various periods of their one thousand year existence. The reason was because Armenians stubbornly refused to convert to Greek Orthodoxy and merge with the empire. Byzantines pursued their anti-Armenia agenda economically, politically and militarily. There would be periodic military raids into Armenian territories. They murdered one of our last Bagratuni kings. They would resettle large numbers of Armenians in places like Cyprus and the Balkans. They would conspire with Persian Shahs against Armenia. They would lure Armenian nobles out of Armenia through bribes. They would even resort to encouraging Seljuk raids into Armenia. They finally subdued Armenia in 1045, when Armenians agreed to disband the Armenian army and turnover Ani to Byzantines. Just twenty years later, the same Byzantines that had resorted to all sorts of measures to occupy Bagratuni capitol, abandoned Ani and fled west when Seljuk Turks invaded in masse in 1064. And in 1071 at Manzikert, Byzantines lost a significant battle to Seljuks. In my opinion, had Armenia been independent and maintained its military, Seljuks would not have been successful at the battle. Before Ani was turned over to Byzantium in 1045, Armenia was known to have a formidable military. By the time of the battle of Manizikert, this military did not exist. Have we learned our lessons?
After the disastrous battle of Manzikert the gates of Anatolia were opened to a Turkic flood. Anyway, the terrible relations that existed between Greeks and Armenians at the time was the NUMBER ONE reason why we have a Turkey today.
Yes Greeks have done their share, what i was asking about is what LG meant by saying even currently Eastern Orthodoxy undermining Armenian Apostolic Church. Does he mean the events in Jerusalem or something else?
DeleteTo T.K.
DeleteI am not only referring to the annual fist fights in the Old City of Jerusalem, I am also referring to the ongoing effort by the Greek church to (mis)-label Armenians as Monophysites, and therefore, as heretics. With that said, we are not just limited to the Greeks. Over the summer an acquaintance of mine who is a priest in the Armenian Church told me that recently Russian priests have been encouraging Armenians in Russia to attend Russian Orthodox Churches, even in cities that have an Armenian Church. So far this is not a major issue but it has the potential to sour inter-church relations.
Finally, we are all well aware of how poorly the Georgian state, with the active encouragement of the Georgian orthodox church, treats Armenian cultural establishments in general, and Armenian religious sites in particular within Georgia.
This is why I consider the notion that Catholics hate Orthodox more than Muslims or whatever other denomination one would like to supplant the Orthodox with as being simplistic and missing the more important geopolitical factors at work in why countries have gone to war with one another. In an ideal world there would be one religion, or at least the Christian world would be united as one denomination from Alaska to Siberia, and from Iceland to Patagonia.
Since we do not live in an ideal world, I'd suggest that we encourage our Church to work on the spiritual health of our people, and to continue their policy of inter and intra-faith dialogue. Armenians are well respected in the vast majority of the states where they reside, so we should build upon this in the ecclesiastical sphere as well.
To Arevagal:
I brought up the Greeks because they form the cradle of Eastern Orthodoxy. And the original comment implied that the Eastern Orthodox were somehow more benevolent in their view of the Armenian Church and Armenians than are Roman Catholics, which is not true. Based on my interactions with learned Catholics they have a good amount of respect for the Armenian nation and Church, and have maintained some Armenian artifacts in the Vatican Library which have been lost in Armenia.
LG
http://carnegie.ru/eurasiaoutlook/?fa=54142
DeleteGood read. The last paragraph ties in well with what we have been discussing here. There is now a rare and opportune moment for the Catholic and Orthodox churches to work toward reintroducing Traditionalist and Christian values back into Europe, from Lisbon to Nizhny Novgorod.
LG
L.G.
DeleteJust so that there be no confusion, I wasn't defending Eastern Orthodoxs for the sake that they are our 'brothers in religion'. I merely wanted to show how traditionally Catholicism has worked against Armenia and other Orthodox countries, while if logic implies Christians should be hand-in-hand against Muslims.
But like you said, the real world is not ideal. Muslim Iran is more of an ally to Armenia than Christian Georgia. And I'm fine with that, because we all know how historically the Georgians have always back-stabbed when we were weak, but seeked our help when we were strong.
But that's not the point I wanted to make. What I mean to say is that Catholics find Muslims (especially radical Sunnis) friendlier than Orthodox countries. That's it.
I do not call for a union of all Orthodox nations against Catholics or against nations. I am not saying that Orthodox countries were/are angels (Arevordi already pointed out why). Alongside the Greeks, Georgia is a good example. But what I am saying is that throughout history we Armenians suffered a lot by seeking help from Western countries. What I am saying is that traditionally Catholic countries have worked against Orthodox countries and continue to do so, even if that means that they have to fund and recruits radical Sunni jihadists and send them to cause terror in different countries.
Our strategic alliance with Russia is not because both nations are Orthodox and can be considered. No. It just happened that we share similar interests in the region. They need us in order to secure their southern boundaries and to project their influence in the region. We need them in order to secure our statehood's physical existence, and basically everything.
P.S. Venice and Armenia (and then Cilicia) have had very good relations since the 6th Century.
LG,
DeleteI agree that our relations with Greek Orthodoxy has been much worst than with Catholicism. I am fully aware of the fact that the old Byzantine hatred of Armenians lurks in the subconscious of many Greeks today. But it's all understandable if not inevitable. Greeks and Armenians (both ambitious, arrogant, proud and stubborn people) lived side-by-side whereas the Vatican looked at distant Armenians as a geopolitical asset in the middle of the Orthodox and Islamic worlds.
However, I wouldn't read too much into what your priest friend said about Armenians in Russia. In a stark departure from the Greek (and Georgian) Orthodox churches, Armenia has had very good relations with the Russian Orthodox Church. Officially, both churches are in communion. And the Russian Patriarch has even visited the Armenian Genocide memorial. I think it's only natural that a Russian priest in Russia would encourage an Armenian faithful to attend a Russian church similar to how an Armenian faithful would do the same in Armenia with Russians. So, tell your priest friend to stop acting paranoid.
Now, allow me to ask you this: Hypothetically speaking, would it really have been a disaster if Armenia joined the Byzantine Orthodox Church back in 11th century? The Bulgarians, Georgians, Serbians and Russians did it. Last I checked, they are still Bulgarian, Georgian, Serbian and Russian. Would it have been the end of the Armenian world had Armenia did the same at a time when Islam was growing like wild fire and there was a Turkic storm clearly visible on the horizon?
As much as I hate the Greek church for their hurtful actions against Armenia and their condescending attitudes towards us Armenians, I also blame our church leaders for being rigged and stubborn to the point of suicide and self-destruction.
What would have happened had we accepted Greek Orthodoxy?
Some church dogmas about the nature of Christ would have changed, some church rituals and practices would have changed, some orthodox saints and philosophers would have entered Armenia and orthodox icons would have been added in our churches... but our church would remain Armenian, we would retain our patriarch and we would have been in communion with Greeks, Bulgarians, Serbians, Russians and Georgians. We would have been part of a larger, wealthier, more developed and more powerful political order. More importantly, had we joined the Byzantine church would never have had the serious problems with our Greek neighbors - and most probably the demographic situation of Armenian Highlands/Anatolia would have been drastically different today.
I am trying to think out of the box and be very rational and objective.
Interesting discussion. Two points I'd like to make:
Delete1) I did not know that the Armenian Apostolic and Russian Orthodox Churches are in communion. I thought we were doctrinally distinct from Orthodoxy, Catholicism and Protestantism. Wikipedia has us as Oriental Orthodox, officially in communion with the Ethiopians, Eritreans, the Copts of Egypt, Syriac and a church based in India. Something about the Council of Chalcedon back in the early days of Christianity. I do know, however, that unlike the faggots of Greece and Georgia, Russia's Church has historically demonstrated great respect to the much older Armenian Church, and has not gone on periodic campaigns to steal our heritage or convert Armenians on masse.
And the Greeks take that "first among equals" crap to the max, whether dealing with Armenians, Russians, or Catholics. But everyone already pointed out, these national churches are a tool of their national ambitions, and a manifestation of their own national pride and arrogance. I like the quote "religion is false for the wise, true for the ignorant, and useful to those in power".
2) If any Armenians do convert away from the National Church in today's atmosphere and socio-cultural environment of freedom and redevelopment, it is their own damn faults. This Greek Church (http://www.stnicholaseducation.com/) near my house opened up or renovated or something a few years back, it probably attracted as many Armenians as Greeks (keep in mind this is a very Armenian-heavy area, Greeks are far, far fewer in number) during its opening celebrations and festivals and whatnot. They had thick books and pamphlets about Greek Orthodox saints translated into Armenians, not unlike the Scientologists, Mormons and Jehova's Witnesses. And keep in mind there are a handful of Armenian Churches within that area, including Echmiadzin (http://www.stpeterarm.org/) and Cilicia (http://www.holymartyrsarmenianchurch.com/) Churches and a Protestant one as well (http://www.merdinianschool.com/history)... Of course many of the Armenians present were nominally Armenian Apostolics who were religiously and historically illiterate, almost guaranteed to have never read the Bible and/or been aware that there is a dogmatic difference between the Armenian and Greek churches deeper than linguistics. And I don't care for dogma or faith, I just see a unified Armenian Church as a prerequisite in developming Armenian National identity today.
BTW, just for fun, here is the Holy Transfiguration Russian Orthodox Church in Hollywood's Little Armenia district: (https://secure.flickr.com/photos/waltarrrrr/2942865936/)
Sakis,
DeleteI misspoke. The Armenian church is not officially in communion with the Russian church. What I meant to say in my haste was that the Armenian and Russian churches are unofficially in communion with each other. As you pointed out, very warm relations exist between the two churches. In fact, the relationship is ideal and should be an example for other Christian churches. No Christian church should be proselytizing in another Christian nation.
To Svediatsi:
DeleteI disagree that Catholic states are currently working with Sunni or any other Islamic denominations against Orthodox nations. France does not count because they have not been Catholic since the great catastrophe known as the French Revolution, which has resulted in France being its own worst enemy. But we can point to at least two major 'Protestant' powers, the UK & US which have and continue to work with Islamic groups against various states; Christian and heathen.
Your other points I agree with.
To Arevordi:
Please provide a link to the AAC being in communion with the ROC, as far as I know this is not the case.
There is an unwritten rule or gentlemen's agreement among the Vatican, Eastern Orthodox churches, and Echmiadzin which aims to prevent proselytizing among one another's flocks, some exceptions are made for minority groups. What the priest pointed out was that the Catholics are not trying to convert Armenians, whereas the Orthodox are. I see this as a continuation of the Byzantine policy, though with little to no support from the Kremlin.
Armenia was Christian before any of the states that are now Orthodox existed let alone adopted Christianity, with the exception of Georgia and the various Greek city-states. Greece wasn't united as a singly entity until its independence in 1832 for that matter. The AAC borrowed what it had to from the Greeks, and Syriacs in terms of liturgy until creating its own and translating the Bible into Armenian. Armenians, like the Greeks, were active in Palestine and encountered the Apostles as well as their disciples. I bring all this up to show that Armenia had already acquired a taste of Christianity which was based off contact with the first generation of Christians, and incorporated Armenian pagan elements into what we now know as Armenian Christianity. While the majority of the Eastern Orthodox communion didn't exist and when they did were attracted to the power and grandeur emanating from Constantinople. Just as the Germanic and Celtic tribes were attracted by Rome and converted to Catholicism within a few centuries. By becoming Catholic or Orthodox these chieftains or princes hoped to acquire the aura of Rome or Constantinople. Not so with the Armenian princes who had two thousand years of kingly lineage behind them. They were not easily impressed by more powerful states. This is essentially the difference, Armenia had an advanced civilization before Christianity, before even Greece; the Slavs and Germanic tribes did not.
By the 11th and 12th centuries the Armenian version and interpretation of Christianity was already well embedded into the national psyche. A psyche that is legendary for its tenacity, something I may add which has helped us survive for over 4000 years.
Asking what would have happened if Armenia had become Eastern Orthodox is anyone's guess, but I think it is a moot point. We are not here to discuss what ifs, but rather what did happen, why it happened, and the lessons we can draw from these events.
LG
Thanks for the clarification Arevordi.
Delete"No Christian church should be proselytizing in another Christian nation." - I believe it was Peter Balakian in his very well documented book The Burning Tigris: America and the Armenian Genocide (other researches may/probably have analyzed it before him as well), who broughy up the fact that during the Ottoman era, protestant missionaries from the USA and Europe travelled to turkey with the stated goal of converting the muslim turks. Soon after they arrived they realized it wasn't going to happen, so they retargeted on the Ottoman Armenians and converted some of them to Protestantism.
Armenian Church and Russian Church are like brother churches. i have had few conversations with Russian priests and they always say all those differences are formalities and they don't see any faith problems. I have even talked about inter armenian-russian marriages and they said no problems for an armenian believer to get married in russian church or the opposite. They take us as one of theirs. And i do like the Russian churches, i always visit them when i am in Russia along with Armenian churches. there is some kind of purity in Russian church that you won't find in others. Priests are very friendly and helpful.
DeleteHowever, i have been present at an inter armenian lithuanian marriage in catholic church (i was the godfather) where they brought another couple without my knowledge who were catholic to sign and basically perform godfather duties. i guess my Christianity wasn't good enough for them.
T.K.
LG,
DeleteFind better educated priest friend to talk to about Russian-Armenian church relations. Don't forget that priests are people to. Other than the actions of independent individuals there is no 'direct' proselytizing of Armenians on behalf of the Russian church. And the relations that exists between the two churches is incomparably better than any other ecclesiastical relationship we have. It could be argued that the Russian church is more respectful towards Etchmiatsin than our Cilician Katolicosate.
I have been involved with both branches of our church. I am basing my opinion on decades of experience and observation.
Btw, so much for the gentleman's agreement you mentioned because the Catholic church did try some proselytizing in Armenia during the late 1980s and the early 1990s.
When discussing history it's very normal to bring up hypotheticals. As a matter of fact, it is done all the time and it is a very healthy mental exercise for it aids in helping one learn from the mistakes of history. It also helps set a certain psychology or mindset for the future.
Look at it this way: We were recently presented with an opportunity to merge with a larger, wealthier and more powerful force and we did at the expense of the wishes of a significant part of our society and at the expense of looking like we are not an independent state. We merged with a larger entity for survival but in the process pissed off a lot of Armenians and lost some sovereignty.
This is in essence (not exactly but more or less) what our forefathers and Byzantines one thousand years ago could not get themselves to do because of their very extremist views, arrogance and rigid mindsets. I have no doubt that had Greeks and Armenians found common ground back then, history would have been drastically different today.
You really don't think this is a fundamentally important point to bring up?
Going forward, we as a people need to find common ground for collaboration and cooperation with the current regional entity that is most qualified to be our natural partner and strategic ally. Internal factors such as Armenia-Diaspora relations, should not be a concern in this strategic endeavor. We cannot repeat the mistakes of our forefathers. Yet, as you well know, we have significant numbers of our compatriots doing exactly that.
Armenian arrogance, jealousy and emotions always gets in the way.
I might also add that i am yet to see an armenian living in russia who converted. In fact mostly armenians who are in mixed marriages will make sure that the spouse or the kid is baptized in Armenian church. I have never met a russian priest who even remotely hinted to convert. they are always very respectful to armenian church and recognize that armenia is the cradle of christianity. some will visit armenia just to go, visit and pray in Armenian church. As to Georgia i don't agree that they won't to convert armenians either. the conflict is more about property. they claim some of the churches in Lori region as at some time they have been georgian. similarly armenians claim a lot of churches too. So it is a property fight not trying to dominate or convert the other.
DeleteT.K.
ՀՀ Նախագահ Սարգսյանն այցելել է սահմանապահ դիրքեր և շնորհավորել զինվորների ամանորը
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=5rM9AJv6DgA
Great announcement from President Sargsyan. He states that in "additionally, in two to three years you will be able to proudly declare that there are such types of arms acquired by the Armed Forces of Armenia that even governments which are 20-30-40 times larger that us do not possess... But each powerful weapon is powerful only with its soldier, its serviceman."
Very exciting prospect and statements coming from the normally reserved Armenian president. I wonder what we will be getting, or have already acquired. Customs Union and CSTO membership is really paying some tangible dividends!
Hail the Russian-Armenian strategic alliance! Death to the enemies of the alliance.
The army is Armenia's future. We can only exist by the strength and resoluteness of the armed forces. Geography is destiny.
DeleteSivas
I agree Sivas. Sadly, this point is overlooked by most Armenians today perhaps because we have not had a 'state' for over one thousand years. We need to place the preservation of the state and tits army above everything else. Regardless of how "corrupt" our officials may be, we must figure out ways of working with them and not against them to solve our problems. Regardless of what problems exist in the Armenian army, we must NEVER engage in any kind of action or rhetoric that will needlessly lower morale. It sometimes feels as if Armenians are not comfortable with being responsible for the destiny of their nation. Hopefully all this will change with time. I do see very good signs in Armenia's younger generation - within those of course who are not infected with Western Globalism...
DeleteAdolf Hitler in his book Mein Kampf, while describing the chaotic situation in Germany during World War I as he was in a military hospital having been woujnded in battle, describes how the marxist agitators (globalists of the day) were spreading false lies about "catastrophic defeats and the desparate situation" within the German Army in order to lower morale and cause a collapse of the targeted German government, despite the fact that Russia had withdrawn from the war and that not a single shot had been fired on German soil. Hitler explains that the marxists hated the Army, because it was the only national institution where they could not subvert tradition, and which served to transform young, inexperienced men who had been hitherto been fed a steady stream of pacifist/defeatist/anti-National propaganda during their youth into practicle, experienced, trained and discipled soldiers who were ready to put their lives on the line for the Fatherland, who were trained to put the good of the nation over their own individual needs - ie Nationalists. Disciplined soldiers ar the globalists worst enemy - a strack contrast to the illiterate, self-hating, drugged up criminals and mercenaries anglo-american zionists like to employ to do their dirty work.
DeleteThe excellent 1965 British movie Doctor Zhivago has pretty good scenes describing marxist agitators agitating for mass mutiny in the Tsarist Russian Army during the height of World War 1.
Today we see the same tactics being used to denigrate the Armenian Army, focusing on noncombat deaths. Jewish games remain the same over the centuries.
And any idiot looking at Armenian history or Armenian geopolitics today should be able to figure out that without a strong National Armed Forces, Armenia would face a second, final genocide... And to think that pseudohistorian and psuedo-patriot filth known as ter-patrostein made remarks in 2008 about "a 40,000 man army is a luxury for a small state like Armenia, but these Karabakhi clan kleptocrats refuse to make peace with Azerbaijan in order to cling to power here"...
Very lucid observations, Sarkis.
DeleteThank you Arevordi!
DeleteHere's a very short clip, less than two minutes, about the Armenian soldier on the front lines. This experience builds a bond to the nation and love for one's country and thereby to one's own self, something that the Armenia-hating freaks in the "opposition" and in ankara, baku, brussels, tel-aviv and washington absolutely hate and wish to destroy.
Армянская Армия/ Armenian Army/Հայկական բանակ
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=AujhO85TgXQ
@TK
ReplyDeleteIn the video you posted
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=k0gOioxi_to
at 0:51 there is a song, you know the name of the song? I've been searching for it for so long time.
Thanks,
AJ
AJ
Deletei am trying to get that song. it is harder than i thought. most think it is a variant of Hay Qajer, but they are trying to find the exact copy. i will post once i get it.
AJ
Deletei am not sure if this is the one you are looking for, i doubt it, but the guy who is a musician says this is it
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=GN1ZcY_RBYM&feature=youtube_gdata_player
That was it I'm very grateful. you know from which movie it was taken from.
DeleteThanks a lot.
AJ
AJ,
DeleteI'm glad TK was able to help. I also thought that it sounded similar to that song but I was having a difficult time remembering the name. It's from the very funny film who's name escapes me right now...
Btw, who is involved in running the "World and Armenia" facebook page? I don't know if you noticed but I have had a link to it on this blog. I check it weekly.
PS: I do not have a facebook account.
Here is the more well-known version of this song:
Deletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yNbNHnmKVKI
AJ, here is the rest of the info you asked.
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(«Կարինե» կատակ օպերայից)
Խոսք` Թ. Նալյանի,
Երաժշտությունը` Տ. Չուխաջյանի
esel kinon doctor jan http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=XK3TKxt0tTc
Մենք քաջ տոհմի զավակներն ենք, չենք վախի,
Մանր-մունր փորձանքներից չենք փախչի,
Մենք դեռ փոքրուց միշտ սիրել ենք քաջություն,
Ինչ էլ որ լինի, չենք հանդուրժի պարտություն:
(Մենք դեռ փոքրուց միշտ սիրել ենք քաջություն,
Ինչ էլ որ լինի, չենք հանդուրժի պարտություն):
Ուրեմն` առաջ, զարկենք թմբուկ հաղթական,
Տանք թշնամուն մենք ծեծ ու ջարդ պատվական.
Թող իմանան` մենք չենք դառնա խաղալիք,
Այնպես պիտ ծեծենք, որ հիշեն հոր հարսանիք:
(Թող իմանան` մենք չենք դառնա խաղալիք,
Այնպես պիտ ծեծենք, որ հիշեն հոր հարսանիք):
Տոհմը մեր եղել է քաջերից քաջը,
Անարգել է կայծակների շառաչը,
Մենք էլ նրա զավակներն ենք հարազատ,
Էլ ուրիշ ժառանգ չկա, չկա մեզնից զատ:
(Մենք էլ նրա զավակներն ենք հարազատ,
Էլ ուրիշ ժառանգ չկա, չկա մեզնից զատ):
Ուրեմն` առաջ, զարկենք թմբուկ հաղթական,
Տանք թշնամուն մենք ծեծ ու ջարդ պատվական,
Թող իմանան` մենք չենք դառնա խաղալիք,
Այնպես պիտ ծեցենք, որ հիշեն հոր հարսանիք:
(Թող իմանան` մենք չենք դառնա խաղալիք,
Այնպես պիտ ծեծենք, որ հիշեն հոր հարսանիք):
T.K.
TK, thank you very much for posting the link to the film. When AJ brought it up I realized I had not seen it is a few years and I wanted to see it again badly. But like an idiot I was searching for "Garine" instead of "Karine". Anyway, what a wonderful film this was. I have grown to appreciate its artistry and humor more-and-more with each viewing. The film is 'especially' funny for those who know Western/Ottoman Armenian language and folk culture. Almost every spoken line is hilarious and the characters are genuinely wonderful. Please thank your friend for me.
DeleteI watched it over too, lol, what actors, gems. one better than the other.
DeleteHere are 2 movies i highly recommend to see.
Tghamardik (Men)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EBMtPcJ5PEg
and Bride from the North (harsnatsun hyusisic)
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=E58FgPPpJJo
@TK, thanks once again for the movie link
Delete@Arevordi, I am managing the FB page jointly with a friend, takes lot of time to keep posting topics and news, trying as much as possible, sometimes I quote without any reference to your page here, the reason being that I am aware some spyurk are allergic towards glorifying Russia as done here, since they are yet unaware of the significance of Russia's rising impact on Armenia's well being, so we try to pass the message as smooth as possible, without allergic reactions.
Speaking about allergies, I was lately a bit busy with some health related topics, and have come up with some info worth to highlight and share, considering that physical and mental health of all Armenians is what determines the status of our nation. Be well, eat well
http://tanabour.blogspot.de/2014/01/tanabour-ancient-medicinal-food-for-new.html
AJ
No need to explain, AJ. I fully share your concerns about the allergic reaction in question. You guys are doing a good job. Feel free to take stuff from this blog.
DeletePS: Let your food be your medicine.
Dahr Jamail on what happened in Fallujah: U.S. War Crimes
ReplyDeletehttps://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WoYADmA_gb0
God forbid the western war criminals ever inflict such "democracy" on Armenia, or for that matter any weaker nation anywhere in the world.
The more I study and contemplate western war crimes, the more I grow to despise our Genocide-obsessed western Diaspora, which has allowed the Armenian Genocide to be reduced to a bargaining chip to be traded in the whorehouse which is the western political world. All that "Never Again!" self-righteous crap flies out the window when it comes to criticizing the war crimes of their own sacred US, French, British or Israeli overlords... Of course these same spineless and politically-illiterate western democracy now(!) warriors have no problems referirng to Presidents Sargsyan or Putin as "worse that the genocidal turks".
This sounds exciting! I wonder what our honorable president is talking about. Any ideas? Perhaps more presicion longer ranged missiles?
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I addition to more precision guided weaponry and modern main battle tanks, I have a feeling Armenia will also be getting either Mig-29s or SU-27s in the near future as a boost to its air force.
DeleteIskandar M is a game changer. think about the last contract we got from Russia. we can buy anything at domestic price. that says it all.
DeleteSU-27s are reasonable for Armenian air force in near future. Migs will take at least 5 years.
DeleteT.K., why would MiG-29s take longer than Su-27's? I believe you, I just don't understand why? We are getting used planes, after all, aren't we?
DeleteAlthough I am content with Armenia focusing on air defense as it is more reasonable in cost, I have to admit that seeing the Su-27 aircraft of the Russian Knights aerobatic team on display at Erebuni Air Base a few days ago was one of the most beautiful sights.
Below is an English-language Russian documentary on the remarkable aircraft that is the Su-27:
Su-27 The best fighter in the world (Part 1/4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tD5VXttYF1A
Su-27 The best fighter in the world (Part 2/4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pVZbHYDX6ZY
Su-27 The best fighter in the world (Part 3/4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ccTJrxVqw9g
Su-27 The best fighter in the world (Part 4/4)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4Kk9UxB7eLE
SU27s would make more sense since russian base has migs, they fly missions together. also russia will be adding new planes and base SU27s will be available for decent price.
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ReplyDeletehttp://asbarez.com/118244/sarkisian-promises-boost-to-military-strength-with-‘new-powerful’-weapons/
Repr
Armenia now has to pass two new laws: Law number one, criminalize propaganda of homosexuality. Law number two: require all NGOs publish their sources of funding. People have the right to know who the puppeteers behind these puppets are.
ReplyDeleteSick dying Europe with its negative birth rate even in Catholic Italy? What exactly are these purported “European ” and “Western” values? Like the WMDs in Iraq, and alleged chemical weapons use by the Syrian government, I’m starting to think they are non-existent because the west has finally succumb to a slow insidious takeover highlighted by the John Birch Society decades ago. The Orwellian “West” is a place where war is “kinetic action”, and the sons, daughters, and grand children of Trotskyite communists prants about as “Neo Cons,” and where what began as “Sex education” has evolved into teaching 5 year olds about anal sex. Or do you mean “Europeans” like the Huns who released their ethnic kin ax killer azerbajani national hero safarov, who’s bravery was limited to killing a man in his sleep? When I look at “Europe” I see a wonderful façade with many cracks, a possessed, disgusting zombie with negative birth rates, and one foot in the grave. To be laughed at by them would be an honor!
It’s time for Armenians to quit their monkey-see-monkey do approach to life and quit following Europe down the path of self destruction. This perverted world order doesn’t favor you, it sought to destroy you once before and it will do so once again, through as efficient a path as possible, mainly suicide as they have done slowly to Europe, if that fails they’ll try and use the mongrels of the past, whom they have nurtured and encouraged always. The purpose of “gender equality laws” has always been to get more women into the work force where they can dilute the pay of the men and destroy the family. It’s a simply way for those who already own everything to own and control what little remains.
What you term “hysteria” is nothing more than the consciousness of the nation, as perverted as it has become through decades of communism, more through it’s instinct for survival than anything, awakening to the larger context of “social engineering” by corrupt globalist forces, whose modus operandi is slow insidious progress.
No thanks, unsustainable dying “Europe” with its negative birth rate knows where to put it’s unsustainable “values” and so do you bought and paid for trolls pursuing a globalist agenda. What I see in the reaction of the Armenian public is the same spirit that forced the government to retract the increases in public transportation fees. That spirit should be cultivated, and encourage, not stifled by a bunch despots and tyrants who would shut down all forms of free speech not to their liking by labeling it either as “hate speech” or “homophobia” or by calling anyone with a different take on things a facist.
As far as the decision on the part of the Armenian government to joint the Russian led customs union, I can’t see it being any worse considering that at least Putin pays his people to have children as opposed to the US where the sickest population on the planet gets lobotomized through fluoridation even in the face of newer study upon study showing the drop in IQ and the associated increased cancer risk. From an economic standpoint the West is practically bankrupt, and this is no accident, and those in the John Birch Society who also got labeled as “nut jobs” apparently weren’t so nuts after all.
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john birch will be proud of you
Nationalism, ethnicism, has become a term, a concept, a philosophy of reprehensible oppobrium . Nationalism, ethnicism is is condemned and it has been proscribed in the EU. The EU official policy is anti-nationalists ( except of course the nationalism and racism of the chosen race whom the EU supports fiercely), anti tradition, anti history, and by extension anti aryan-white. Racism is healthy, and it is the only force, albeit enfeebled and emasculated , which can challenge the contemporary universal regime of the internationalists, antiracists ( anti aryan white) gang of boardroom murderers. It would have been inconceivable of ethnic Armenia to have followed and association agreement-pseudo alliance with the EU. Armenia's place is outside to what today is categorized as the EU. Naturally there are those who think otherwise. It is a mighty struggle taking place and admitedely ethnicism and ethnicists are on a retreat. Berlin 1945 sealed the fate of ethnicists and paved the way for the internationalist complete dominance headed by the chosen race. Ethnic and healthy Armenia can only survive, thrive, and develop with the army. Armenia is a warrior nation state. It can not be otherwise if ethnic Armenia is to survive . Levon Petrosian's wife is not Armenian, his son studies and lives in the land of the chosen; he has a property in the chosenite paradise ( presumably to make his retreat if things get too hot in the motherland). What can one expect from a man made out of such material ? Petrosian is devoid of national sentiments, he reckons he can have champagne and caviar by striking peace deals with Azerbaijan-turkey etc, Armenia's mortal enemies. It is a waste of time to speak about this abortion of a man.
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DeleteVery well stated. One point about Armenians: We 'were' a warrior nation. The last one thousand years have turned us into a nation of semi-nomadic shopkeepers and merchants, although the warrior spirit remains dormant within us and it expresses itself once in a while. Nevertheless, if we are to survive in the Caucasus for any long periods of time, we need to somehow revert back to becoming a warrior nation - begin revering our military as a sacred institution. We can do this through social engineering (public conditioning and education), starting from kindergarten and ending with television programing. In the meanwhile, however, for the next few decades, we need to efficiently exploit our relationship with Russia to get us out of the deep and filthy mess the previous twenty years, the previous one hundred years and the previous one thousand years has gotten us into.
Anonymous,
DeleteHere is what I sent yesterday to a friend regarding Armenian Warrior Mentality(we were discussing about migration from Armenia, and this was my last point):
Finally, we wouldn't have such a huge migration if it weren't for proper social programming (education).
No, Armenians are not poor and helpless people. We are not a people that only 'moral victories', in fact we've been a challenge to ancient Rome, Parthia, Byzantium, Persia, the Arabs. True, we were a "sattelite" state a lot of times, but the side that we've taken has proven to be disastrous to the opposite one, meaning that we were an important piece of chess in the region. Then came the black and dark times of the turkish invasions... And now, after nearly a thousand years, we're once again considered an important player in the region!!! Such a thing for a nation like us is almost a miracle. Also, this could be a bit radical but I think we're a bit of sissies on the battlefield. Such softness has been keeping us back. Good thing Artsakh wasn't like that.
My point is that, we must not have a weak mentality. We must not believe that we are a weak and helpless nation. If that's the kind of morale we as a nation have, then we don't deserve to exist. (Don't confuse this 'weakness belief' with the idea of "oh we're weak we need Russia". ALL little countries have survived thanks to the backing of a powerful and bigger force).
http://carnegie.ru/eurasiaoutlook/?fa=54165
DeleteThis is how Armenia showed be viewed in Russia as well, and we can only do this by cleaning up our internal mess, i.e. the oligarchs as well as the western financed idiots.
"The strong do as they can and the weak suffer what they must."
Let us work to move toward the former category rather than remain in the latter.
LG
I fully agree. How other perceive us has a great impact on how they treat us. I don't remember the details, but sometime in the 1990s I remember reading an article about some archival material about a British agent's observations of Armenians in the Ottoman Empire. He had written about General Andranik's plight saying that the general had little popular support and that troops would often abandon their positions in the night. In his letters to London, he goes on to conclude that Armenians cannot be trusted and that the British would be better off dealing with the Turk.
DeleteWhen a Turkish (or Israeli or any Western president for that matter) sits at the table to enter negotiations, those siting across the table know that the Turkish nation is standing behind him. When the Armenian president sits at the negotiation table, everyone knows that there is more-or-less no one standing behind him. This by nature will have an adverse effect on any negotiations process, from an Armenian perspective.
This situation has been one of our curses for a very long time. Until we fix this we will remain a small and vulnerable nation asking for mercy and handouts.
"The thing that makes Judaism dangerous to everybody, to every race, to every nation, to every idea, is that we smash things that aren't true. We don't believe in the boundaries of nation-states. We don't believe in the ideas of these individual gods that, you know, protect individual groups of people. These are all artificial constructions. Judaism really teaches us how to see that. In a sense our detractors have us right in that we are a corrosive force that we are breaking down the false gods of all nations and all peoples because they are not real. And that's very upsetting to people."
ReplyDeleteDouglas Roushkoff, Author of Nothing Sacred: The Truth About Judaism
Quote taken from the following video: Five Dancing Israelis Arrested On 9/11: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tRfhUezbKLw&feature=related
With respect to the Sargsyan's statement about possession of qualitative weapons in the near future. We should dissect the President's enigmatic statement word by word.
ReplyDelete"we will be able to proudly declare that there are such types of arms acquired by the Armed Forces of Armenia that even governments which are 20-30-40 times larger than us do not possess"
First let us see which governments are larger than us in that ratio (20 to 40).
The list of countries that are 20 to 40 times larger than Armenia is quite numerous, but not all of them concern us, what comes quickly to our minds are those in our immediate vicinity. Turkey is 20 times larger than Armenia, and Iran is 40 times larger. So the reference is clear.
Next question, what technologies does Turkey and Iran have, and what can we possess that neither Turkey and/or Iran are not able to possess?
The answer is not missiles, tanks, airplanes or radars.
Simply, Sargsyan is talking about nuclear weapons(imho). This is the unannounced priority task of the Armenian government, to acquire nuclear weapons. Even with the finest air defense and combat airplanes, we are no match to Turkey's military capabilities, without constant Russian support to Armenia, as Arevordi mentioned several times, Armenia cannot manage to survive a sustained long term assault.
Iskander missiles are simply the delivery technology, but think about it, you don't use Iskander-M missiles to deliver conventional warheads, their are cheaper ways of doing that.
The transfer of missiles was the first step in this process (accomplished), second step is to deliver the nuclear warheads (status unknown), third step is to transfer the command and control of this arsenal to Armenian authorities (perhaps in a few years).
This is the only way to guarantee Armenia's security, one must take into account the possibility of internal problems rising in Russia and western attempts to topple/or assassinate Vladimir Putin. In such a scenario, Armenia could find itself alone in the cold, once again. We should have the necessary tools for self defense and the ability to deliver a lesson that the enemies will never forget. The squadron of Mig's or Su's cannot ensure Armenia's security. In addition, Iran has a number of Mig-29s and Su-30s, Turkey has its own share of Western fighter jets and bombers. But they both do not have Nuclear weapons.
Nuclear weapons can secure a nation from external threats (Israel is such an example), except they are screwed from the inside, that even Nukes won't help them.
If we do not take advantage of this historical opportunity (I mean our close relation to Russia) to straighten our spines and acquire the necessary tools to ensure Armenia's long term security, how else are we going to maintain our non-enviable position in the Caucasus?
AJ
Another possibility is creating a state of the art cyber warfare unit in Armenia. There are currently only a handful of states that maintain a full time cyber warfare unit, and as far as I know Iran is the only neighboring country that has a program. Turkey does but it is tied in with nato, and not truly theirs.
DeleteThough I think what is more likely is not a single weapon system but several different types, so Iskander missiles, cyber warfare unit, fighter jets, larger UAVs, attack helicopters, T-90 tanks, etc.
LG
AJ, I agree that the implication of the Iskander missile system is "nuclear" in nature. Like you said, there are much cheaper and simpler methods of delivering conventional warheads. Since the 1990s, there has been persistent rumors that Armenia's possesses at least one man-portable suitcase nuclear device. But there have been no verifications whatsoever. In the near to mid term, I do not see Armenia being given the freedom of possessing tactical or strategic nuclear weapons. Such a thing has immense geostrategic implications and it is a massive responsibility for a small, remote and impoverished nation with internal problems and underdeveloped security infrastructure. I do, however, envision the stationing of nuclear arms within Armenian territory as a joint Russian-Armenian venture. Perhaps the deployment of the Iskander inside Armenian territory is a precursor.
ReplyDeleteThe point you raised about Russian-Armenian relations is a fundamental matter and something I have been talking about for ten years. Russia is our historic opportunity to get us out of the mess have have gotten ourselves into during the last one thousand years. Yes, we should be 1000% pro-Russian but we have to use Moscow's protective umbrella to gradually become self-reliant in case our northern Orthodox brothers get themselves into serious trouble once more.
This brings up a political nuance I have been mentioning in recent months: In order for Moscow to allow Armenia even limited self-reliance they have to be 1000% confident of Armenia's allegiance and dependence to Russia. In other words, we need to do a thorough house cleaning in Armenia: This applies to Armenia's Western led and financed political opposition and the 1990s era's criminally ambitious Chobans-in-Aramani-Suits who are still in power. But one thing at a time. The most severe danger, the most imminent danger Armenia is facing is not our Chobans, it's our Western agents pushing toxic Western agendas under the banners of "fighting corruption", "human rights", "freedom of speech", "democracy", "civil society"...
Well delivery missile is more important than the tip. with todays antimissile systems most tips we posses may not reach the final destination. Iskander is unique as there is no system to bring it down. the rest we have could be downed in the air. as to nuclear tip, we will never know until a critical event. Don't underestimate Iskander M, if we had 10 of those we can stop turkey. this a sure hit system, and takes out a whole military base. that alone is enough for turkey to settle down and watch instead of thinking about intervening.
ReplyDeleteoff course having an Iskandar will not let turks sleep well because they can not be sure if we have a nuclear tip or not. in any event Sargsyan states what he can prove later, and believe me he will never prove that we have nuclear weapons, he can only prove that we got Iskandars. that is more than enough for our neighbours from all sides.
T.K.
don't forget that nuclear silos have been dismantled from karabagh after ussr fallout. the fact that we had access to materials is undoubtable. how we used it is unknown. Armenia is an NPT signer so it will never ever admit what it has. the main issue our military is facing now is formidable air force and no denial missiles. Our army is now switching to offensive weapons and that is a really good news. once we get our offensive able and ready, believe me we will become a force.
ReplyDeleteI cannot see how Iskanders can pose a viable threat to Turkey, my feeling is that this system is pointed towards Baku.
ReplyDeleteThere are no dense population centers that are within 400-500 Km range, say if we wanted to Nuke Turkey.
Most of the population is Kurdish who reside in Western Armenia.
We do not have a frozen conflict with Turkey the way we have it with Azerbaijan.
I have previously posted some info regarding the possible usage of Scud-B to target the oil and gas facilities in Azerbaijan.
That by itself would make Aliyev think hundreds of times before doing anything foolish.
However with a nuclear capable Iskander-M system, Azerbaijanis would never ever dare to go on offensive.
Arevordi, Iskander as you know is a mobile missile system, my assumption is that the operating principles must be lighter than operating conventional missiles systems requiring silos, storage facilities etc..
http://img.over-blog-kiwi.com/0/54/74/56/201306/ob_db5112_missiles-de-theatre-iskander-et-leur-portee-en-eu.jpg
Perhaps each system would require a dedicated team of 50-100 trained personnel from the armed forces.
The risks and responsibilities that come along with it are ofcourse high, but still I think it is doable, and setting up an elite Armenian-Russian task force for this purpose is foreseeable.
The current situation in Armenia is different to what was before.
At present we cannot afford any loss of human lives.
Possession of nuclear weapons is the most critical deterrent for any potential Azerbaijanis aggression.
That being said, we know well as long Aliyev is sitting on the chair in Baku, there is no risk of war.
But only when there is a risk of internal revolt, he might be inclined get venture a renewed war with Armenia over Artsakh.
I would still like to hear your opinion what Sargsyan is talking about, that in two years interval, Armenia will possess the kind of weapons that Iran or Turkey are not able to possess.
He can't be talking about jets, tanks or submarines...perhaps he is referring to Iskander missiles, but first of all, that is no secret, and second, those missiles should come along with special tips,
otherwise it's a very expensive but not so useful toy.
Azerbaijan is meanwhile contemplating at the possibility of stockpiling Nuclear arms in Artsakh, cool idea must say, I wish it was true.
http://www.azernews.az/azerbaijan/63253.html
Your comment regarding a portable hand held device remdinded be of the case of two Armenians caugfht smuggling highly enriched Uranium.
Any thoughts on that? Who was behind it, and where were the uranium destined for shipment? and what happened with the case? Are they in prison in Armenia? or in Georgia?
AJ
AJ
DeleteNobody is going to target civil population or nuke anyone. that age is gone.
Iskandar allows to pinpoint and strike a military base (including an air base) with 90% hit rate. meaning even if patriots are deployed (u need 4 to cover 360 degrees, contrary to S300 which covers 360 degrees with one unit) that missile will overcome any defence. It is fast, it changes flight trajectory and can dive into target at 90 degree angle. there is nothing turkey and also USA base in Ilciric have to safeguard against that missile. That is why Russian base deployed it once Syria conflict got out of hand (this was a warning to USA that Ilciric base is in range and will be destroyed if needed). if we got those missiles we can destroy (pinpoint strikes, not just bombing USA style) any military base. Now if a war started with Azeries and turkey felt too confident and started to move it's forces to Nachijevan it will take few strikes to destroy nearby bases. immobilize their air bases and deny them any advantage. Russian and Armenian war planners are very proficient at what they do. every nuance is calculated and a counter action is in place.
That is why Sargsyan can go to Tavush and say with confidence that there will be no war in 2014.
T.K.
Up until 2012 our army was concentrating on defensive buildup. everything spent was going to make sure we can defend and throw out the enemy. since 2013 and especially as planned in 2014 we are building our offensive forces. this is a key issue, anyone who thinks about attacking will now have to plan to defend. and when we get iskandars there is not much they can do to defend. this is an insurance for us.
ReplyDeleteAs to Turkey's 'powerful army", 2nd in nato. and stuff like that i can state that it is a smokescreen, it is a quantitative army not qualitative. if they have to ask nato to give patriots, imagine their state of defence. with help of Russia's southern army and black sea fleet turkey will be bombed to medieval ages. and they know that. that is why they will pull back and not act in Syria, that is why Erdogan will fly to Moscow anytime Russian ships come close to their border.
They are as desperate as they have been in 1953 when they sent their best forces to Korea just to please USA and get into Nato. They also know that if they ever think about attacking Armenia, Nato will not fight on their side. this is a fact, Nato is a divided force and will never risk its corporate interests for turkey.
T.K.
Very well presented points.
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DeleteI really liked you analysis on Armenia's and turkey's armed forces. There is one factor that I consider a weak point for Armenia when facing turkey: terrain.
Our southern part of the border with turkey is the Ararat Plain, which is disadvantageous, as the enemy can easily outnumber you in the open. Not like Artsakh, where we have mountains that give us the upper hand.
Can you and/or Arevordi give some explanations as to how should an Army fight back when it is being attacked on open ground?
Svediatsi
DeleteIf Zoravar is reading this maybe he can elaborate, but in my opinion, the Araratian plain is ideal territory for close-air-support, modern battle tanks, precision artillery, multiple launch rocket systems and long range anti-tank weapons. Armenia has good capability in all of the aforementioned fields - with the notable exception of close-air-support. However, with each passing year, Armenia's military is getting more-and-more sophisticated. I expect an upgrade to our air force in the coming years. At the current pace, in a few more years, Turkey's military will no longer be able to pose an offensive threat to Armenia - even with their numerical superiority.
PS: The biggest threat facing us now and for the foreseeable future is us, our internal problems. The biggest danger facing Armenia today is the further demoralization of the population. If we cant get out house in order, if we cant unify around our state (regardless of who is in power), if we don't think in the long term, if we continue our failed "middle of the road" politics, if we don't put an end the Western sponsored anti-Armenia doom & gloom campaign, our military will prove useless when the time comes.
Svediatsi
DeleteI say bomb the hell out of anything coming close with all you got, artillery, tanks, bombers and hellies. sure we have mined defense layers. Russian smerch and tornado will hit them hard deep inside. they will be surprised, how many missiles are coming their way from a small territory. LOL, i am not a military expert, i will ask some generals here when they come see me to get a correct answer for you.
T.K.
Look at Arevordi's post at January 13, 2014 at 10:51 PM, which describes facts and emerging realities regarding Armenia's border security and its position in reality to regional "great power" turkey; which can only be described as miraculous in nature given Armenia's recent history and its long-term stagnation, and then compare to this reply to my comment by the trolls on asbarez:
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here is how a small russian patrol ship took care of american pride in black sea.
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SME4w037FgA
Participants of World War 2
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Main article: Military history of Armenia
Members of the Tamanyan Division marching under Brandenburg Gate after the fall of Berlin in May 1945.
Armenia was spared the devastation and destruction that wrought most of the western Soviet Union during the Great Patriotic War of World War II. The Nazis never reached the South Caucasus. An estimated 300–500,000 Armenians served in the war, almost half of whom did not return.[4]
One hundred and nineteen Armenians were awarded with the rank of Hero of the Soviet Union.[5] Armenians living in the areas occupied regions of the Soviet Union formed partisan groups to combat the Germans.[6] Over sixty Armenians were promoted to the rank of general, and with an additional four eventually achieving the rank of Marshal of the Soviet Union: Hovhannes Bagramyan (the first non-Slavic commander to hold the position of front commander when he was assigned to be the commander of the First Baltic Front in 1943), Admiral Ivan Isakov, Hamazasp Babadzhanian, and Sergei Khudyakov.[6] Armenian SSR provided weapons and rebuilt broken airplanes. Workers donated to the Defense Fund 216,000,000 rubles. Armenian SSR, as a gift, sent to the front 45 wagons of provisions. The 89th Tamanyan Division, composed of ethnic Armenians, distinguished itself during the war. It fought in the Battle of Berlin and entered Berlin.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/89th_Rifle_Division_(Soviet_Union)
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Participants_in_World_War_II#Armenia
Russia should never forget what we gave. it is no coincidence that we have strategic relationship. Our grandfathers fought with all their bravery, it is a question if USSR would have won the WW2 if not our input.
Only Karabagh gave 3 Marshals and 1 Admiral (highest military rank).
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SZ2SnuN1N5U
Notice Mikoyan, Bagramyan
T.K.
PS. don't forget our heroes, they sacrifice their life for us to have what we have today.
There has been some statements from previous presidents recently
ReplyDelete1st LTP came out and made some pro-russian statements, guess his jewish masters told him to switch sides.
http://arka.am/en/news/politics/armenia_s_first_president_ter_petrosyan_warns_again_anti_russian_rhetoric/
than Qocharyan has been giving interviews and hitting Tigran Sargsyan (i hear he is making trips to russia trying to gain influence put Putin is not too friendly), we can assume he wants to come back into politics.
http://news.am/arm/news/188930.html
T.K.
I think Russian speakers here will love this recent speech by Zhirinovsky -
ReplyDeleteЖириновский о УКРАИНЕ! http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QvMEIL4jrz4#t=112
here is an article in russian, maybe you can translate by Melik Shahnazaryan. this guy is karabaghy he is very knowledgable about azerbaijan. he always rebuts azeri propaganda.
ReplyDeletehttp://times.am/?p=37077&l=ru
this is also him about Dostoyevsky's little known talk about turks.
http://times.am/?p=36920&l=ru
T.K.
this is very troubling, Moldova may get into Nato. the report says EU AA is a prelude to Nato membership as we thought.
ReplyDeletehttp://vz.ru/news/2014/1/15/668022.html
Aliev has a meeting with Nato chief.
Georgia just got another handout in millions from Azeries.
If a threat of Nato appearance in our region becomes real expect war. Russia will not allow and Armenia needs to move swiftly.
T.K.
Moldova is highly unlikely to get into nato without the Transdnester issue being resolved. It is a standing policy of nato to not admit states which have territorial issues. And azerbaijan neither desires nato membership nor would it be granted it because of the Karabakh issue and because aliyev will not conform to the democratic standards nato requires of its member states.
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DeleteI can't recall at this time where but i have read an article about Nato changing the rules. they have stated that in certain situations the alliance should move to be more flexible. I believe it was about Georgia. Considering their recent defeats we cannot be sure about some arrangement where they will place troops. It may not be a full membership but an agreement to station Nato troops.
If you think about it that may later become a military base. I think Russia and Armenia cannot just sleep easy thinking that nato charter says that a country with a conflict cannot be a member. If they want something they will find a way. It all depends from how forceful Russia will react, the rest is just a formality for them.
T.K.
Not counting that there is talk on president level about moldova becoming part of romania. i guess that will be automatic inclusion to Nato.
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From http://rt.com/news/ukraine-rival-rallies-kiev-291/ listed above in the blog:
ReplyDelete"During a meeting with opposition leaders - former boxing champion Vitaly Klitschko, former economy minister Arseny Yatsenyuk and far right nationalist Oleh Tyahnybog - McCain was asked for more than just moral support from the US - referring to the possible introduction of sanctions, UNIAN reported on Saturday."
What is wrong with these self-hating freaks? It never ceases to amaze me when I see bitter, power-hungry opportunists invite foreign powers and third parties to unlease sanctions or bombings on their home countries in order to weaken their local rivals and secure power for themselves.
Sarkis
Deleteanyone who deals with McCain anywhere in the world is a traitor (including americans). I am sure those russians who were in Vietnam are hitting their heads to the wall that they let that a-hole to live.
just the fact that he is still in usa politics until now talks volumes about americans literacy and ignorance.
T.K.
Interesting interview from Iran's foreign minister in Russia about Syria
ReplyDeletehttp://rt.com/news/iran-foreign-minister-zarif-700/
T.K.
Can someone explain the orientation of news.am ??
ReplyDeleteWho owns it? what is their orientation? pro-government or opposition?
I have the feeling they are very vocal against the current government.
AJ
news.am is more or less independent. it is more like a news portal, they copy/paste from other sources.
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The army, our army, just keep aggrandizing and beefing up the army. Nothing is mor sacred than our army. We shall live and die by the grace and blessings of our army. As far the demoralization of our folk is concerned, it is a worrying factor; however let the turks make an offensive move and you shall see the collective conscious of all armenians , homeland and diasporans, coalescing and become one. But we must have an army, the best army in the transcaucasus, that is our sole guarantee. Less butter and more guns; less luxuries and more guns, more sacrifices for more guns; zilch democracy-pornocracy and more guns . The army will help Armenia keep body and soul together. Those who think otherwise, must be weaned out of our society and defenestrated. Armenia must become a new Sparta. Sivas
ReplyDeleteI like you already, Sivas.
DeleteAre you new to this blog?
NEWS.am is owned by Serzh Sargsyan's son-in-law, Mikayel Minasyan, who currently is the ambassador to the Vatican. He owns numerous newspapers and online news websites. Anyway, he allows its editors to publish "anti"-government articles so people will keep visiting these websites, and he can keep them under control (or he thinks so presumably).
ReplyDeleteArmenian news shouldn't be called news, but rather "karcikner," as 90% of the articles concern mere idiotic opinions raised by idiots. This opinion-based media by pseudo-experts needs to change to a more professional level, since it is very pessimistic and destructive in its nature...
Thank you for the clarification, Kim Philby. I agree with you that the quality of state funded news in Armenia is very poor. There is no in depth analysis of developments. There is no coverage of breaking news. And the level of journalism is very low. Generally speaking, what we get from them is dry reporting. It is very unfortunate that Western propaganda agencies such as Radio Liberty and ArmeniaNow for instance do a much better job in presenting the "news". That is why I have mastered the art of reading between the lines. Anyway, you have been quiet lately. Its good to have you back. Any news from Moscow?
DeleteMoscow’s demands are simple; it wants Armenia to be governed by pragmatic pro-Russian politicians. The rest is up to us Armenians, we can either have a “pro-Russian” choban in power, or a “pro-Russian” intellectual, I prefer the second. Armenia’s integration within Russia’s security and economic structures is making immense amounts of progress, however, in my opinion, both the Russian and the Armenian side fail terribly in the way they present these achievements and generally the way they deal with the public opinion. Furthermore, Armenians need to take the initiative, instead of Russia.
DeleteArmenians still remain too emotional in many issues, a good example is the recently build Armenian Cathedral in Moscow. Some groups want to organise lectures that tend to more nationalistic tendencies, Moscow allowed this Cathedral to be built only with the request not to be used for stirring up certain tensions, thus only to function as a religious centre. These lectures are not allowed. Thus, Armenians conclude Russia is anti-Armenian, is conducting a fiercely anti-Armenian racist policy and wants to keep us down by all means.
This is just one example, but what I see are unrealistic demands, forcing Russians to comply with everything we, Armenians, want, but Russia getting nothing in return. It’s simply not realistic. Armenians should instead focus on bringing the Russian-Armenian Churches closer together (showing them that there is no real difference between Miaphysitism and Chalcedonian christology), Armenians should promote deepening of Russian-Armenian social and political relations by publishing books and holding seminars on Russian-Armenian history, Armenians should promote (indirectly) the importance of Armenia for Russia’s interests, so Russians themselves will not feel forced to support Armenia, but will do it more naturally. Focus should be more on media, information warfare, public opinion and real analytics.
Rich Armenians chobans in Moscow are doing the best they can to support Armenia, since they are not bad people in their hearts. What we need is a visionary leader, a strong and professional (analytical) organisation having real long-term goals and one that can unite these loose individuals to serve a greater common cause…
- Ara Abramian’s Union of Armenians of Russia is a disgrace. If you see their office, which looks worse than a student dorm, you will understand this is not a serious organisation and is merely based upon Ara Abramian’s personal contacts he has within Russia’s elite.
- Yuri Navoyan’s Russian-Armenian Commonwealth Organization is not bad, holding some seminars, inviting Russian’s to Armenia, trying to disseminate pro-Russian/Armenian information (some books), however they do not even have a website and are far from having clear long-term goal.
These were basically the two “largest” Armenian organisations in Russia. I hope my point is clear.
I recently cam across this small press conference about the controversial letter Zory Balayan had wrote to President Putin a few months ago. I want to share it with you because the Russophobic dyke talking up a storm expresses some thoughts that very accurately reveals the true nature of Armenia's political opposition today. He-she is seriously upset that Zory Balayan called for Armenia having common borders with Russia. And he-she thinks that Russia is more dangerous to Armenia than Turkey and Azerbaijan combined. It's in Armenian. Please try not to puke while watching -
ReplyDeleteՌուսաստանին Հայաստանն առանց հայերի էր հարկավոր. Մարինե Պետրոսյան: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=qpYlc1FdckU
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Deletesome interesting info you provided, you know anything more about the copters production in Artsakh? (ofcourse if is not secret) what type of helicopters? I assume we are only dealing with setting up assembly facility?
I can easily imagine this is a very logical step.
Artsakh army would definitely benefit from having small copters, something of this kind
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/MD_Helicopters_MH-6_Little_Bird
for special missions within the enemy territory, say to neutralize a rocket bases.
AJ
AJ
Deletei don't know what type of copters, it is one of the joint ventures in military sphere between russia and armenia. initially it was a repair facility but now it will become a production facility, joint enterprise between russian company and a known company in Artsakh.
T.K.
@ Kim Philby, what you have described is essentially why I keep emphasizing the urgent need to proselytize to and collaborate with our compatriots in Russia to help them better understand geopolitics and the important role they play in Russian-Armenian relations, and also to help them better organize themselves. We have immense resources and capabilities in Russia that needs to be tapped into. Individuals like you will prove instrumental in this regard in the long run. What we need there are politically aware and energetic individuals knocking on doors and preaching the importance Russian-Armenian relations. You made a very important point in stating that Russians simply want a pro-Russia government in Armenia. Who can lame them? Of course we Armenians need a pro-Russian government in Yerevan, but it is up to Armenia's 'political opposition' to determine the 'quality' of this government. Needless to say, the so-called "political opposition" in Armenia today (a pathetic collection of Western mercenaries, freaks, psychopaths and intellectual midgets) are failing us miserably in this regard: Which is why many of us pragmatic nationalists are content with the lesser of evils - the chobans-in-Armani-suits that have been in power since the chaotic years of the 1990s. We have had money hungry street thugs on one side and dangerous Western mercenaries on the other side. Armenia has been suffering for twenty years as a result. We need our reawakening. We need our Putin. The current situation has to change if Armenia is to progress they way we want it to. As I have said, once we have eliminated the West threat inside Armenia, Russia's FSB and GRU need to start helping us rid ourselves of our 1990s era chobans.
ReplyDelete@ TK, you have provided very valuable information. I am very excited about the fast pace of our military's development. Armenia is indeed heading towards becoming a regional powerhouse - if we Armenians don't screw it up. As Kim Philby reminded us, our authorities are failing miserably in the PR department. Our officials have not yet caught up with the times. They need to look at how Western powers manage their societies and invest some time and effort in the Social Engineering and Social Conditioning aspects of governance.
Thank you Kim Philby and TK for the very valuable information you two are providing this blog.
Reading all the comments we can agree that oligarkhs in Armenia or Armenian oligarkhs in Russia have the money and connections, at times a desire too to help. however, what we see usually is a village mentality that could be described mildly at least as unprofessional.
ReplyDeleteOne would think these people will require an advisory group, people who have the education and the training to bring those efforts into better results.
the problem is they don't understand the concept and think it is a luxury. instead of surrounding themselves with the best minds we got they listen to Vagho from the neighbourhood to make decisions, not counting the greedyness to spent a penny for a direction and a calculated analysis. as long as we have oligarkhs who are not educated themselves we have to wait and hope that maybe their offsprings will learn and act differently.
T.K.
Arevordi, with regards to Zori Balayan, he is increasingly seen around Serj Sarkissian and other top officials in news footage; the latest one being Serj's visit to the troops on new year's eve. I view this as the Sarkisian Administration's endorsement of the views he stated in his open letter. Whether some sort of solution is in the works I'm unsure, and perhaps this is getting the public ready for that, but I think there's a clear warning to Azeri's that keep off Armenia and Artsakh. Your thoughts?
ReplyDeleteMy thoughts regarding this matter more-or-less reflects yours. A final settlement for Artsakh may indeed be in the works and it will be part of a greater Russian-led agenda to bring Pax Russicana back to the South Caucasus. Zory Balayan seems to be playing an increasing role, perhaps to prepare the public as you stated. I think the Armenian population as a whole will go along with whatever Yerevan and Moscow decide. The free radical in this conversation, however, is Baku. It's unclear how Azeris will react because they are coming to the realization that Russia will back Armenia in any conflict and that Artsakh will remain Armenian. Time is against Baku. Perhaps that is why Armenia is beefing up troop strength in Artsakh. Like I suggested in my previous blog commentary, there may be one last (perhaps an orchestrated) push by Baku. It's difficult to see how Aliyev will survive the aftermath of any failed war or even peace settlement. Interesting times are ahead for Baku. Anyway, this is all speculation. There are many variables than can change from day to day. What's certain, however, is Armenian sovereignty in Artsakh, including Karvachar and Berdzor regions. Another new certainty that an independent Armenia has not had in well over one thousand years is that Armenia's borders today are impregnable by any regional force. Armenia is turning into a powerful fortress and headed towards becoming a major regional player. The only thing we need to seriously start worrying about its the economy. I just hope this Customs Union things get off the road quickly and the economy begins to recover.
DeletePS: It would be nice if you identified yourself.
Zori Balayan is a mentor of all karabaghy leaders. they all respect and listen to him. his role was crucial in turning the tide during war and securing russian weapons. he is also respected in certain circles of russia. I think the letter is his idea. Sargsyan most likely agrees with him.
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thinking about russian policy for armenia we can see that russia being tired of pro-western tunes in yerevan has made it's bet on Artsakh armenians. president, chief of army, vice speaker are from Artsakh. many russian-armenian oligarkhs are from artsakh. the new military academy will be build in artsakh. strategically artsakh could be the most southern border for russia. it has an ideal location between iran and azerbaijan,
ReplyDeletewe also have to take into account that our influence is not limited to armenia and artsakh in caucasus. we have a large armenian communities in Sochi, Abkhazia and Rostov. not counting Krasnodar and Stavropol. if i am not mistaking about 1 million armenians live in southern russia regions. many karabaghy armenians live in Piatigorsk area.
I think this is not a coincidence, russians have allowing over last 150 years to repopulate and bring armenians into those regions to counteract muslim threat. i am sure this policy will payoff if need be.
and it is paying off now with sochi olympics, for last 2 years armenian gangs in sochi region have been successful to crush and move out all dagestani and chechen gangs under the umbrella of FSB. i think about 500 armenian policemen will be going to Sochi as contract security during the games. So we see this armenia-russia relationship working out both ways in a lot of directions.
T.K.
Artsakh Armenians saved Armenia. I also think Artsakh Armenians play a very important role due to as Arevordi says their warrior breeding. Can you talk more about the Armenian gangs of Sochi. Never heard about it before.
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Very interesting, TK. What are you basing your opinion on?
Deletei can't name the groups or the leaders, and i am not sure if the word gang best describes them. not sure if the word mafia is closer but they are sure underworld groups who have their own rules and have control over governmental structures and political influence.
DeleteFew months ago ( and even before) there was a push from Dagestani and Chechen groups to establish control and dominance in areas traditionally controlled by Armenian groups. they didn't succeed.
That is all i can say.
T.K.
If you ever come to Armenia we can make a trip to Sochi and i will introduce you to some of those people who stood their ground and didn't let others to establish control. Sochi has old (hamshen) armenian diaspora who speak their own dialect. they are a tight group and don't let others inside.
DeleteAdditionally there is a big armenian community (from artsakh, armenia, and krasnodar armenians) who have settled there later in 80s or 90s. All have their organized groups and established some level of control and comfort. if in other russian regions azeri, dagestani or chechen groups are also present, in Sochi they never succeeded. It is a tough neighbourhood and Armenians had control traditionally, hope it will lasts, because they are tested often.
http://news.am/eng/news/105163.html
http://www.topix.com/forum/world/russia/T6AH63C9S02P310N6
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Aslan_Usoyan
T.K.
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DeleteIMHO I am enjoying the other conversation here. So please dont take offense. I come here to see geopolitical and military related conversations because this kind of talk doesn't take place in other boards.
Arto1
TK, you have very special status in this blog, therefore you can post whatever you want... But, as Arto already suggested, generally speaking, let's please keep our comments here relevant to geopolitical matters.
DeletePS: Armenians have the brain power: World class masters at chess. Armenians have the muscle: World class boxers, weightlifters and wrestlers. Armenians lack team work and discipline: Armenians are mediocre at 'team' sports. And what greater "team" than one's nation. Individually, we excel in all fields. Collectively, however, there remains a lot of room for improvement. The traits that helps us excel individually are the same traits that keeps us from excelling collectively. When Armenia manages to create a world class football team and is able to sustain it for any period of time, it may actually be an omen of greater things to come. Our nation needs discipline and a better understanding of what "team play" is all about. I am convinced that with our brain power, muscle power and - team work - we can and we will live to see - Ծովից-Ծով Հայաստան!
Thank you for your honest opinion.
DeleteArevordi, great words regarding the necessity and the lack of team work within Armenians. Problem is, most of us think "we know it all", Armenian pride :D
DeleteArmenians are really doing great in all kind of sports, and those who play in other countries contribute to advance Armenia's reputation and fame at the international level.
AJ
Arevordi
Deletethis internet community you have created is in a way could be called your internet "home". anyone coming here has to be mindful about that. I feel as a guest i have to know the rules and respect. I can only imagine the time and the effort you have put and that is why i have asked what you feel about non relevant posts.
I have removed few posts not related.
T.K.
PS. all others who felt my comments are not to their interest could just skip them, that is not to much of an effort to ask from fellow armenians.
I regularly check into this blog only for its political bent which I enjoy enormously. Arevordi's great work here (which I don't always 100% agree with it) is very valuable because it helps form ideas by provides alternative and controversial views which is not normally found in mainstream society. Keep the blog political.
DeleteAnonymous Hye
Georgians are pushing to get Nato MAP by sept 2014
ReplyDeletehttp://www.messenger.com.ge/issues/3032_january_16_2014/3032_edit.html
T.K.
Arevordi jan, you say it would be nice if I identified myself, well, I don't have a problem with that. This is your old "friend", Artsakh. I previously tried to touch basis with you, and how I can reach you, but it fell on deaf ears and ignorance. So now you know, let's see if i'll receive the same treatment. Regardless, your ideas intrigue me, and you're a brilliant writer. Though we have been out of touch for years, I have been following your writings for the same amount of time. In other words, though u have forgetten me,I have not forgotten you. I consider you a brilliant ideologue, though not necessarily agree 100%, and ill tell you why later, but nevertheless...keep it up. Just keep in mind, no one is 100%, not Andranik Pasha, and certainly not you, and don't you dare take that as an offense!!
ReplyDeleteYes I follow football, but I follow individual players and not necessarily teams. On a national level, naturally I follow Armenia's team and their fortunes. I do not follow German football, I enjoy immensely following Luis Suares matches and the display of his skills. Like wise I relish enjoyment watching Messi . There is a good Armenian footballer, Boghosian, he was top scorer in Newells old Boys in Argentina, they sold him to an Austrian team; and there he seems to linger in anonimity. He should consider moving to an Armenian team and play for the national team; before father time comes calling for him. Tennis is another sport I follow intenesely, and was a fanatical supporter of Nalbandian. As a matter of fact I recall having watched every single match Nalbandian played in every tournament which was televised. Nalbandian was an exquisite player, sheer talent, had he wished it he could have been number one. Unfortunately he was unlucky in the sense he was injury prone, and he should have had more careful attention in his youth on those niggling injuries. In 2003 he could and should have won the USA open, but lost to Roddick in semifinals due to his arm injury. In 2004 he should have sown up Roland Garros, but incomprehensibly lost to Gaudio in semifinals due to stomach injuries.In 2006 he lost in semis to Baghdatis in Aussie open due to his wrist injury. In the same year he retired due to shoulder injury in semifinals to Federer, having won the first set and being 3-0 in second set. He was a polymathic individual and he used the sport of tennis as a vehicle for his other interests in life, such as car rallies.
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ReplyDeleteI didn't know six Russian Naval personell died helping fight the great San Francisco fire of 1863. What a heroic act! In retrospect they should have let that den of freaks burn to the ground.
The goddamn US has to turn everything about faggotry and racism, and if possible anti-semetism. This country is no longer fit to survive.
@T.K.
I enjoy reading all of the information you provide here, particularly your "on the ground" and in person experiences in Armenia and with Armenian officials.
-Things are starting to heat up in Kiev.
ReplyDelete-Suicidal mudslim whores aka "black widows" are reported to be trying to sneak into Sochi so they can fulfull their islamic duty and plese allah (and more clearly to service their american, european and kike masters in the west)... Now I'm not one to advocate genocide, but the muslims of the Caucasus, both North and South, need to be cut down to size. I also think that Armenians should take advantage of the heightened Russian focus on muslim terrorism to reinforce the motion that Russia and Armenia are united against a common islamo-turkic enemy. The kikes wasted no time with the "Israel. America. United Against Terrorism" posters and bumper stickers in the immediate days after September 11.
-One Armenian soldier in Artsakh was murdered defending against an azeri infiltration attempt:
"Seyran Ohanyan: Nine Armenian servicemen threw back two Azeri subversion groups
During his visit to John Kirakosyan school in Yerevan on Tuesday, Armenian Defense Minister Seyran Ohanyan gave some details about the subversion act carried out by Azerbaijan on the night of January 20, Mediamax news agency said.
The Minister said that the attack of the Azeri subversion groups was stopped by an Armenian squad of nine people.
“A squad of nine servicemen on duty threw back two special units of Azerbaijan, numbering around 30. Isn’t it heroism?" he said. Panorama.am
On the night of Jan. 20, Azeri units tried to infiltrate Armenian positions in northeastern (Jraberd) and southeastern (Korgan) sections of the contact line of Karabakh and Azeri troops. NKR Defense Army serviceman Armen Hovhannisyan was killed by Azeri fire while performing his military duty at the northeastern military position. An investigation is being carried out. Armen Hovhannisyan was posthumously awarded medal ‘For Courage.’ "
Azeris meanwhile are reporting a successful "operation" against Armenia, followed by their routine "several troops died of accidents, disease, weapons mishandling, natural causes:
http://armenpress.am/eng/news/746949/azerbaijani-defense-ministry-admits-losses.html
https://scontent-a-ams.xx.fbcdn.net/hphotos-prn2/t1/q71/s720x720/1560694_10202355031533814_1998983642_n.jpg
ReplyDeleteThere have been such images circulating lately. Ultra-nationalist turks are coming to Armenia and doing their grey wolves sign in Yerevan and other places.
I managed to find out about the people in this picture. Apparently one of them works for an organization called "Kavkassam", or "Caucasian Strategic Researches Center".
Does anyone have information regarding these individuals or the organization?
I have seen similar pictures several years ago with the same man. I wouldn't take it too seriously. The picture is the equivalent to Armenians climbing Mt. Ararat and unfurling an Armenian flag.
DeleteJust found this.
ReplyDeleteIt's in relation to the image.
http://ankakh.com/%D5%A9%D5%B8%D6%82%D6%80%D6%84%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%B6-%D5%A1%D5%B6%D5%A1%D5%A4%D5%B8%D5%AC%D5%B8%D6%82-%D5%A3%D5%B8%D6%80%D5%AE%D5%A1%D5%AF%D5%A1%D5%AC%D5%B8%D6%82%D5%A9%D5%B5%D5%B8%D6%82/?fb_action_ids=796820790333000&fb_action_types=og.likes&fb_source=other_multiline&action_object_map=[188875791322568]&action_type_map=[%22og.likes%22]&action_ref_map=[]
Many people in Armenia are complaining about the high gas prices. Why are prices still high after Armenia agreed to join the CU? Russia sells gas for $189 at the border with Armenia, yet the end user pays $390. Something is not right there.
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If you recall, TK had address this issue in my previous blog commentary. The $189 is basically what Russians are asking for their product, the balance is basically an Armenian markup to cover expenses, costs and of course embezzlement. This is a very frustrating but a good example of how Russians try to help Armenians, while Armenians try to hurt Armenians. This is also why I am glad Gazprom recently took over the entire company. I am hoping they will make some major changes and run it more professionally.
DeleteLG
DeleteThe 390 per 1000c/m was the price armenian customer paid for about a year while there were negotiations with Gasprom, around 2012. At that time Russia had increased the price from 189 to 240. Aside from that the way they calculate the price now is armenian customer pays a mean price of 310 (this is because they give discount to some large volume users, the price maybe 340 for one and 280 for another). the government explains the breakdown of that 310 as follows
189- to russian gasprom
60- to armrussgasard for management
10- loss, (not sure why)
50- is VAT that goes to government.
I think the government could have easily lowered the VAT to 10% as an essential utility, and the management could have been more efficient and saved some money. the actual price for gas could be 250. Now after Gasprom took over and a new company called Gasprom Armenia is managing i wouldn't be surprised if the price to armenian customer goes down to 280-290 range. it will be about 30% cheaper than what others are paying.
T.K.
Yet another interesting photograph:
ReplyDeleteMeeting with Richard Giragosian
https://fbcdn-sphotos-e-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-prn1/t1/q77/s720x720/1613840_10152185521432375_701530929_n.jpg
This individual goes by the name of Hasan Oktay, and has this "Anadolu"/Kavkassam research center, wants to open a branch in Armenia, Georgia and Moscow I think. He has also photographed in Red Square and Tbilisi doing the grey wolves sign.
Now I'm sure that there's nothing big to worry about, but we must monitor this turk and his actions.
If anyone has any additional information, please let us know.
Oh, now that's an interesting picture! Please email it to as many people as you can, along with a few words about he two characters in question.
DeleteI've started emailing it to patriotic Armenians.
DeleteHere is yet another image. It's a picture of Raffi Hovhannissian's barevolution meeting, taken by this turk individual himself.
https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=10151536577227375&set=a.81398622374.77437.677127374&type=1&permPage=1
The caption says: leader of the Armenian Opposition, Raffi Hovhannissian.
For those who can't open the facebook link, here is the picture again: https://fbcdn-sphotos-f-a.akamaihd.net/hphotos-ak-ash3/s720x720/9553_10151536577227375_2141607191_n.jpg
Could it be that our "opposition" and "NGO"s are collaborating with this individual?
I wish I knew about these pictures with Richard Giragosian and Raffi Hovanissian earlier. Please do me a favor and email them to as many people as you can. To supplement the pictures, you can include the following blog link as well -
DeleteForget the Kardashians, meet the real whores of American-Armenian Society: http://theriseofrussia.blogspot.com/2011/03/forget-kardashians-meet-real-whores-of.html
Cynical New PR Stunt Greases Skids For “Humanitarian” Invasion of Syria
ReplyDeletehttp://www.infowars.com/cynical-new-pr-stunt-greases-skids-for-humanitarian-invasion-of-syria/
Svediatsi,
ReplyDeleteIs that pic from the Turk taken in Armenia? When was this pic taken and what the hell is he doing there in Armenia amidst a protest? That face book page should be catalogued with a screenshot, these types of images have a tendency to "disappear" during sensitive times.
PART 1 . . . . . There has been a lot of relevant and enlightening geopolitical strategim discussed in this Blog entry. However, the question to ask from all of Arevordi's writings and all of the discussion is, how receptive is all of this information for the Armenian mind? I think it can be said that amongst this small band of nationalists that we have slowly formed on this blog, we can have consensus and even willingness to implement EVERYTHING we speak of on this blog for our Fatherland if any of us had the power to directly do so with the stroke of a brush.
ReplyDeleteBut you all know that's not how nations are built, the small group of nationalists are usually the cannon fodder when they face a wave if ignorant, selfish, jack-off compatriots that bicker and whine all day amongst themselves regarding greener pastures elsewhere outside their homeland. To implement nationalistic ideas, you need a nation wide nationalistic consensus on issues. Sadly, at this juncture in time, while there has been SOME improvement in this area for our people, we are far from being there as Arevordi has pointed out on several occasions. His analogy of Mxitar Sparapet being beheaded by his own ethnic group of village idiots to please the Sultan who would later go on to slaughter the very same Armenian executioners of Mxitar is VERY likely to reoccur in the current state of our people's mentality as such time in which a rare but GREAT ARMENIAN LEADER arises. Essentially, today's Armenian would again castrate and oust a true pragmatic nationalistic leader arising out of the ashes of the past 20 years for a visa to Belgium.
The only place I see any semblance of nationalism currently is within the borders of Arstakh and the Karabagh Armenians. Thank GOD that today, it is these very same Karabaghcis that are in power, otherwise we would be in deep shit. I only see the "warrior spirit" and the nationalistic drive amidst the Karabaghcis for protecting their land and way of life, everyone else in Armenia is at this present time just window dressing. Yes there are pockets of nationalists in the Diaspora and greater Armenia, but we need transnational, ethnocentric, ultra conservative nationalism fueled by the desire to achieve and reach greater heights as a nation and bound by the hate for anyone that threatens our ethnic identity, way of life, and genotypic/phenotypic homogeneity. All of Armenian needs to think like this, this was PRECISELY how Germans thought at around the turn of the 20th century and these nationalism allowed them to survive, recover, and thrive through TWO world wars, the cold war, and beyond. Today they brandish the economic might to buyout Greece. Though a lot of their original Aryan zeal has been diminished by the yolk of Holocaust guilt tripping by Jewish roaches, still, in the deeper parts of what used to Eastern Germany, German pride and nationalism still burns bright and they are quick to call you "auslander" if you are not one of them. . . . . .
Bravo, very well written. Armenian traits such as arrogance, jealousy and financial ambition works against Armenia. The typical Armenian is the biggest problem Armenia has. That is why I have been preaching: Russo-Armenian alliance (knowing that left on our own, we will disappear from the map); placing Armenia's interests above that of the Armenian's; education, teaching those around us the realities of the political world. Had Armenia been trusted to Yerevantsis or Spyurqahays, we would not have an Armenia today. Thank God for Artsakhtsis. Germanic nations are a vivid example of how genetics and culture can help people endure catastrophes and still be at the forefront of civilization.
DeletePART 2 . . . The male/female dynamic. Superficially speaking, it may not occur to most that within any given culture the relationship dynamic between a man and a woman plays a huge intricate geopolitical role for said male/female's nation. I've always seen a nation's population as the "physical weight" of that nation. The more populated and the more healthier the growth rate of that population, the "heavier" that nation is on the geopolitical stage worldwide, and once something heavy gets moving, the laws of geopolitical physics take over, that is, it's hard to get in front of it or stop it.
ReplyDeleteTake China for example, before becoming the 800 pound manufacturing Gorilla of the world, it was simply more than a billion people surviving on a bag of rise daily for most of the 20th century. However, once the Chinese took some initiative, got organized, slowly built channels of strength and found a niche on the geopolitical stage (i.e.: manufacturing), this monstrously "heavy" nation got moving and now its built such momentum that is commands a table with the likes of Russia, US, France, England, etc. as a force to be reckoned with where as only 50 years ago, it was grossly seen as "not too much of a threat" by these same group of nations that were powerhouses back then too.
How does this relate to our Armenian geopolitical stratagem? Well for one thing, traditionally, our culture has always been patriarchal in nature. This was especially true for as long as Armenians resided within the Middle East and USSR proper. However, ever since the slow migratory diversification westward to Europe/US, the poison of radical feminist, gender role ambiguation, and the "woman hear me roar" bullshit has seeped its way into the Armenian family nucleus and its migrating its way through our Armenian communities eastward to Armenia proper.
Propaganda outlets such as Asbarez, Lra-Glir (as Arevordi so elegantly calls it), and other online "doom/gloom" outlets feed bullshit like "Armenian men are chauvinists", or "Armenians traditionally abuse their wives" etc. to the post modern Armenian populace worldwide. The direct result of this has been less traditionally committed marriages, and less children within said marriages, ultimately a stalled or non significant population contribution to our nation. Even when looked at globally, how can our population have been 10 million in 1990s and still be at 10 million today? It's because in essence, the push to turn Armenian households into matriarchal pussy whipped dens via pop culture/feminist bullshit has in turn had the natural consequences of less stable marriages and less kids per marriage.
I am willing to bet that when compared to 1950 - 1990, the per Armenian household average number of children has shrunk and the population rate has flattened out for the 1990-2010 time period. To build a nation, you need bodies, bodies give a nation "weight" on the geo political stage. Blacks in the US were not taken seriously because of MLK, they are being taken more and more seriously by power centers in the US such as the Jews because they make up 40 million of the population. The same goes for Latinos for the last 20 years, they breed and breed and eventually their sheer population size warrants a careful ear and they are accommodated. I believe the Geopolitical world stage is no different, larger nations carry more weight and are taken more seriously because even when primitive, if they decide to "riot" on the world stage, it's a big fucking headache for everyone else and thus other nations accommodate them. If we have 70 million Armenian today in Armenia you can bet Turks would take us more seriously. . . . .
I agree with most of what you are writing, but I think the issue of Armenia's demographics and the lack of growth is due to assimilation, industrialization, and economics.
DeleteAssimilation is pretty obvious, and an Armenian is more likely to be assimilated in his host country if he resides outside of the Near East. Over the past 40 years, due to various geopolitical events, Armenians have left for North America and Europe in droves from the Caucasus, and the Near East. Their grandchildren will likely be the last Armenian generation in their lineage.
Industrialization, refers to post WWII Armenian SSR catching up in per capita production output with the advanced industrial states of Europe and US/Canada. Many studies have shown that once a nation reaches a certain level of industrial productivity they have less children. So Armenian parents in the 80s were already having less kids than those in the 60s & 70s.
As for economics, this is currently the main reason why Armenians do not have more kids, they don't think they can afford it. One child, or two, but any more seems to be unfeasible for many in Armenia. Within the Diaspora may be a different reason, a combination of all three factors.
Though I agree, post modernist thinking and ultra liberalism are certainly not helping the demographic situation. Wealthy Armenian benefactors and the government ought to combine resources to encourage Armenian families to have more children, at least 3 per family. But as with many other issues, the people with the resources are not doing nearly enough, if anything at all, to avert disaster.
LG
The problem with our women is also our men. Women in Armenian society are raised either as caged birds or gold diggers. Armenian men expect Armenian women to be either saints or whores. Armenian men want to marry saints and chase whores. This is why Armenian women are either docile servants of men or predators that prey on men. The problem I see here is actually the traditional (read Asiatic/Islamic) upbringing of Armenian women. You rightfully brought up Germany previously as a good example in human society. Well, women in German society have always been very independent and progressive, compared to their counterparts around the world. Even Nazi Germany had some great women.
DeleteWomen play a very fundamental role in society, a role that is greater than that of men because women RAISE children. Jews, unlike our Asiatic chobans, have long recognized this important fact. This is why Jewish women role very prominent roles in Jewish society, and this has been so throughout their history. Women, Armenian women in particular, have a lot to contribute to human society. Women in Armenia today are a few steps up on the evolutionary ladder than men.
I am a feminist but NOT in the Anglo-American, Westernized sense of the word.
There is a big difference between a modern, progressive and independent minded women who appreciates her nationality and recognizes her biological role in society - and a Westernized, drug addicted and an alcoholic whores who think "independence" means getting drunk in bars and fucking around.
PART 3 . . . . Arevordi has repeatedly and most accurately said on numerous occasions that "you have to look in the deepest jungles and the most remote dessert villages to find a people as politically illiterate as most Armenians".
ReplyDeleteMy response to you Arevordi is a clear NO, you don't need to look that far, just look at your average Armenian female between 20 - 45 these days. I'd wager, if we took a sample size of 100 Armenian women from the Diaspora and asked them "who was Vazgen Sarkissian" less than 10 would know who he was. Yet ask 100 Jewish women off the street who Yitzak Rabin was, and I promise you 190/200 will know exactly who he was. This is a significant observation. The basic point I making here is even more so than the politically illiterate Armenian men that are more preoccupied with the next "business" that will make them even more money, our Armenian women are even worse off, yet at the same time somehow, they have absorbed many of the feminist messages being shoved down their throats which him turn hurts us transnationally on the most basic of levels, our tradition family structure.
Unfortunately, Armenian men have done little to rectify this. Instead of resisting feminist assaults on our way of life and beliefs, many men begin to show signs of compliance. In many Armenian households, the male children are held back to "work" while the females are dolled up and told "don't worry honey, just go become educated". In a traditionally patriarchal society, the muslims and orthodox Jews being great examples, it's quite the opposite. The females are raised as breeding vessels for the eventual delivery of AT LEAST 3 children while the men are supported to seek high education and high status professions. With this patriarchal dominant approach, the natural trickle down effect is that the men brandish the title of "head of the family" and "breadwinner" without question or challenge from his wife, and the wife simply takes on her instinctual role of "homemaker", in this set-up, almost inevitably, the man comes home, fucks his wife, and larger families are formed and the population thrives, giving geopolitical "weight" to the nation.
Up until the 1980's Armenian families were structured like this and there was good growth, but the past 20 years, our way of life is seeing a lot of "push back" and it does have geopolitical implications on the most basic of levels. I realize this is not a mainstream topic that is discussed here on this blog but I feel mentally there are assaults occurring on the most basic level on our communities in the Diaspora and in Armenia that need to be rectified alongside macro political agendas.
I feel due to the many sociopolitical issues intertwined with the geopolitical strategies discussed here, a separate blog may be warranted and hopefully I may be able to implement such a blog this year and get some of you to also read up on topics that interest you.
-Sassounci Davit
Armenian parents today (mothers in particular) are in fact one of the main obstacles actually hindering Armenia's entry into the modern world.
DeleteArmenian parents need to stop worshiping/pampering their beloved 'sons' and realize that their brats need to grow the hell up, get self-reliant, get some discipline and learn to appreciate their homeland. They should also realize that in the process, some of their 'sons' will get hurt or die; but that is the nature of the beast.
For their part, Armenian men need to learn that being a man has nothing to do with wearing fancy black clothing, shiny shoes, chasing whores, marrying virgins, doing "bizness", smoking cigarets all day, driving a "Benz" and growing a "chalaghaj" belly.
Armenian men need to realize that being a man means working hard; understanding the world one lives in; being politically active; respecting women; loving one's homeland; obeying laws; acknowledging authority; having discipline; and developing a healthy body and mind... and when the time comes, protecting the homeland from enemies both foreign and domestic.
I support constructive criticism. I would only add that Armenians also have admirable qualities which we should further cultivate. This is something we call can agree on. After-all, we would not be alive if this weren't the case. Spending too much time on weaknesses can be as detrimental as believing one is flawless. The AAC and official Yerevan must develop anew or resuscitate Armenia's socio-cultural & spiritual paradigm, family units doing this independently are nice but will not be sufficient for the road ahead.
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Let me start by saying I sympathize where you are coming from and agree, to a certain extent, with some of the points you raised. But you completely lost me when you brought up orthodox jews and muslims. Our culture has already been damaged from a thousand years of islamic influence, the last thing we need is to try emulating the barbaric way they treat their women. The Asiatic semites have very twisted views on women, a good example is to read Yahweh's guidelines set out in the Old Testament. Or watch the documentary Submission (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=aGtQvGGY4S4). While people, particularly Armenians and even more so Armenian women will always have a complaint or two, had Armenia's parents, government, media, schools and other institutions better socialized and informed Armenian women, and men, about the societal realities that exist in other countries, I believe feminisms effects would be limited. Mainly naive simpletons and intellectually deficient people, and college students with lots of passion but zero guidance fall for the extreme feminism that the west preaches.
DeleteBTW western women are particularly targeted for brainwashing, there are multiple industries which target women. One look through daytime television, or a celebrity magazine, and you'll see what immorality they teach women to view as "normal". I believe this is a strategic move: fuck up the young women today, and you won't have to worry about the future generation. All part of dumbing down and destroying traditional values.
I think your mistake is that you are framing Armenia's problems from an American perspective. White Nationalist groups in the US have all been infiltrated, subverted, or outright decimated. As a result, websites like VNN (and perhaps Stormfront, I never really followed them) attract only fringe elements, which are usually single males who complain about the way women act, and how it was better in the 1950s. One can easily notice that these websites have almost zero female members, because by declaring women to be best suited as "breeding vessels" to be "fucked by their husbands after they come home from work" they have driven potentially supportive women away. For example, had I been a woman, and I read what you wrote and then read something by a feminist whore like nanore barsoumian on asbarez, I'd probably go with nanor. It would be more effective to make it a societal norm that women look at motherhood, continuation and expansion of the race, and providing the foundation for a strong Armenian home in order to combat western feminism and increase Armenian demographics. Society and government need to condition Armenians that this is the only moral way to behave. But when you frame it in words like "breeding vessel" or praise how the muslims treat their women, you do more harm than good.
And lots of Armenians "fuck", it does not help us if the women, and men, see the result of their fucking as a nuisance which should be aborted. Or if they keep the child and raise it with a hyper-individualistic "fuck the world and everyone in it, all that matters is your own personal wealth and happiness".
I'm not trying to be overly critical, I appreciate the effort but if we alienate women, we lose half of the potential number of Armenians who would otherwise be on our side against globalization.
Ps The weak economy strongly influences low Armenian birth rates. It's not the only factor (see Germany) but it is a very big one.
Over the past 5 years, the chess board and its players has slowly defined itself and all the players are in position, what will happen next is really unpredictable in my opinion. It's clear that Georgia was on it's way to slowly becoming a staging ground for Israeli activities against Iran, however, this was more during the "Sakashvillli" era, now with a more Russian friendly change, things may not come full circle for Israel yet, that is, Georgia may not yet become a full pawn for the Jews.
ReplyDeleteThe Azeri's are enjoying a temporary (20-40 years MAX) bought for "independence" from too much outside influence with oil money. Once the oil runs out, all of the toys they bought that need to be maintained will become their down fall due to the high costs of such maintenance.
Russia is definitely on its way to Arevordi's dream of Pax Russicana, granted if Putin can stay in the game for another 10 -15 years and also hand off the reigns to a worthy heir. I don't see Medvedev as this heir, he seems more like a straight and narrow family man politician, we need another Putinesque type leader in the Kremlin.
Syria has a 50/50 chance of becoming whole again, but as previously mentioned, it is likely that it may be divided up into a smaller "pre war" syria, while the rest goes to the West to be used as they please.
I hope Iran does not give up its nuclear ambitions and completes its goals, though I'm not sure if this will happen yet. Every time I hear they are in "meetings" in Europe, I fear they buckled under the economic pressure.
As far as our beloved Armenia is concerned, I can only hope we wise up more and get more educated leaders with more nationalistic ambitions. I for one have made long term preparations to eventually move to Armenia as I do not see a future for my family outside of Armenia/Karabagh in terms of our cultural identity, despite our best efforts "centrifugal assimilation" as Monte Melkonian named it, is a certainly on par with scientific entropy. The only guarantee any of us have of our children and grandchildren's identity is to move back to Armenia or Artsakh, the latter is where I'm leaning towards.
Armenian needs to continue to build it's military an weapons, and as it has been mentioned here, Armenia and Arstakh need to become a whirling fortress of death for any interloper stupid enough to infringe on our freedoms, way of life, culture, and ethnic identity.
We need a proper intelligence service developed that works in close relation with the FSB/GRU. We also need laws in place that limit NGO activities and also limit the number of NGO's in the country, a population of 3 million does not need 3000 registered NGO's confusing the masses from the inside out. Social engineering and nationalism needs to be TOP priority, and traditional means such as the media, TV, radio, online media need to be used to achieve this for the coming generations.
The world has stayed fixed, but mankind is growing, it's becoming more and more a complicated place to live, we Armenians MUST BE READY at all costs.
Bravo, very-very well written essay, Sassounci Davit. I am very impressed with you my friend. The only thing I would add here is this: I wouldn't worry to much about the Russian leadership. Putin is not alone. In fact Putin serves the system, not the other way around. Remember that it was during Medvedev's time in office when the Russian Bear showed its fangs to the world. Although I have a feeling we will enjoy Putin's presidency for a long time, there are many other patriots ready to serve the system. Dmitryi Rogozin is a great nationalistic candidate for the RF presidency in the future, so is Sergei Ivanov.
Deletethis was fast
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here is another one, good going guys:
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I enjoy this, reading how they want to come out clean. try a-holes try hard.
ReplyDeletehttp://asekose.am/hy_AM/news/11/150154-tourq-gors-gaylere-azat-srjoum-en-hayastanoum.html
http://asekose.am/hy_AM/news/8/150191-irakan-gors-gaylere-hayastanoum-azat-cen-frfroum.html
http://asekose.am/hy_AM/news/8/150187-ricard-kirakosyane-tourq-azgaynamoli-het-handipman-masin-sa-couxak-er168am.html
http://asekose.am/hy_AM/news/11/150181-vardouhi-isxanyane-texyak-ci-exel--or-na-gors-gayl-e.html
TK, you have done a brilliant job in Yerevan in calling attention to this issue. I am astounded as to how fast you got this information published in the internet. Thank you. I am very impressed. This is what political activism is all about. In my opinion, this kind of information should make it to the Russian embassy's intelligence department as well.
ReplyDeletePS: Etchmiatsin should be made aware of who the head of the Armenian Church was appearing in a picture with. I am 100% certain certain that the Katoghikos did not know exactly who Oktay is and what he represents.
Arevordi
ReplyDeleteI will not take credit for the exposure. i have little to do about it. it is your blog and the attention it deserves that got it out.
T.K.
Thank you for the compliment TK but this blog has a very small readership, and even a smaller support group to which you are a part of. At the end of the day, it's patriotic, intelligent and politically active individuals such as yourself and Svediatsi that makes the difference. Therefore, thank you for being politically aware and, more importantly, active.
ReplyDeletePlease do me a favor and see if you can find someone in Yerevan that can get this information to the intelligence desk of the Russian embassy and to the office of the Katoghikos. Russians need to be made aware of the realities of Pan-Turkism because it concerns them as well and the Katoghikos needs to ask questions about people asking to pose for pictures with him, especially when they are from a place like Turkey.
In the big picture, I am not one that is going to read too much into these pictures. But if we Armenians have any self-respect as a nation we need to make a big deal over issues such as this before they get out of control. In other words, it's always good to overreact to little things so that they may never become big things. This is also a good exercise in political activism and it also helps establish contacts...
Pictures of Grey Wolf activists with American agent Richard Giragosian, American agent Raffi Hovanissian, IMF/World Bank trained PM Tigran Sargsyan and the head of the Armenian church has gone viral.
ReplyDeleteA few cyberian comrades from the US, Canada and Armenia have done a brilliant job in calling attention to the Grey Wolves' unwanted presence in Armenia. Practically overnight, several articles were produced by Yerkir, Nouvelles Armenie Magazine, World and Armenia, Times.am and News.am questioning this alarming development, and replies by Asekose.am trying explaining them. See links to articles below.
In my opinion, this kind of information should make it to the Russian embassy's intelligence department. Russians need to be made aware of the realities of Pan-Turkism because it concerns them as well. Etchmiatsin should also be made aware of who the head of the Armenian Church was appearing in a picture with. The Katoghikos needs to ask questions about people asking to pose for pictures with him, especially when they are from a place like Turkey.
In the big picture, I am not going to read too much into these pictures. But if we Armenians have any self-respect as a nation we need to make a big deal over issues such as this before they get out of control. In other words, it's always good to overreact to little things so that they may never become big things. Moreover, it's always good to keep a close eye on Washington's Armenian operatives inside Armenia and when such opportunities present themselves, use it to put pressure on them.
Թուրք պրոֆեսորը Երեւանում «Գորշ գայլերի» նշանն է ցույց տվել: http://news.am/arm/news/190462.htmlhttp://
Ինչու՞ են Հայաստանում պատվում «գորշ գայլեր»-ի հետևորդին: http://times.am/?p=37457&l=amhttp://
Թուրք ազգայնամոլը` Տիգրան Սարգսյանի եւ Գարեգին երկրորդի հետ: http://www.yerkir.am/am/news/61403.htm
World and Armenia: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=273497136139249&set=a.229788457176784.1073741828.229698963852400&type=1&theater
World and Armenia: https://www.facebook.com/photo.php?fbid=273498956139067&set=a.229788457176784.1073741828.229698963852400&type=1&theater
Nouvelles Armenie Magazine: http://www.armenews.com/forums/viewtopic.php?id=43683
Թուրք «գորշ գայլերը» ազատ շրջում են Հայաստանում: http://asekose.am/hy_AM/news/11/150154-tourq-gors-gaylere-azat-srjoum-en-hayastanoum.html
Իրական «գորշ գայլերը» Հայաստանում ազատ չեն ֆռֆռում: http://asekose.am/hy_AM/news/8/150191-irakan-gors-gaylere-hayastanoum-azat-cen-frfroum.html
Ռիչարդ Կիրակոսյանը` թուրք ազգայնամոլի հետ հանդիպման մասին. «Սա ծուղակ էր»: http://asekose.am/hy_AM/news/8/150187-ricard-kirakosyane-tourq-azgaynamoli-het-handipman-masin-sa-couxak-er168am.html
Վարդուհի Իշխանյանը տեղյակ չի եղել, որ նա «գորշ գայլ» է: http://asekose.am/hy_AM/news/11/150181-vardouhi-isxanyane-texyak-ci-exel--or-na-gors-gayl-e.html
I wonder who is Oktay's sponsor here in Armenia. the high level meetings he got are not an easy task. someone got paid to organize all this. It would be good to find out who is behind all this.
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TK,
DeleteI would bet it was either the American embassy or an NGO sponsored by the US. They have the contacts, the means, and the interest to facilitate such meetings. For many decades the US has claimed that if only Armenians and turks communicated with one another than all grievances would be addressed and solved. While on some minor issues this may be the case, on major geopolitical ones it is not.
LG
Getting back to the main topic of this blog entry. The situation in Ukraine has taken a turn for the worst. There were some deaths today, including an Armenian who was reported to have been one of the protesters. There is a possibility that the killings could have been a provocation by Western agents or Ukrainian nationalists. The protesters have been increasingly violent in recent days. This could be a sign of desperation or a sign that somebody, somewhere wants the Ukraine descend into mass disorder and violence.
ReplyDeleteThe following is an interview of political analyst Levon Melik Shahnazaryan. Towards the end of the interview he reflects on the situation in Ukraine.
Լեւոն Մելիք Շահնազարյան 21 01 2014: http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9TAjP3ZvX04#t=1355
the grey wolves sojourn in armenia, regardless who the talk to, is a matter of grave concern. how this turk gets in and travels at will ? . Was he taken to the monument ? No stinking turk should be allowed to set foot in Armenia unless he agrees to visit the monument. The turks want a one way dialogue with Armenia, to press their posture in negationism. If Armenia relents and cedes terrain on our postion to the turks ," the Turks would become Armenia's fondest and closest friends under the sun ". The death of the armenian in Ukraine it was a wasteful and useless death. What was a 20 year old doing in the barricades of Kiev ? He should have been guarding and fighting at the front line in Karabakh, not enlisting to parade for Klitchko and his coterie of revolutionaries. We armenians are very fond of dying in the interests of other people. His death saddens me because he was armenian, but on the other hand it does not move me at all because he died in a spot where he should not have been in business. A 20 year old place is in our army, in the frontline of our borders, to fight and die like a hero, not to die in a foreign squabble, thousand of km away from the motherland. Sivas
ReplyDeleteI fully agree, Sivas. There were two notable Armenian deaths during the past two days: One was of Sergent Armen Hovhannisyan, a brave hero who died protecting his homeland from Turks, the other of a fool who died in a foreign land doing the bidding of Western intelligence agencies.
DeleteRegarding the Turk's presence in Armenia: I think it would be wise to look at the matter within the following geopolitical context -
George Friedman: “Russian presence in Armenia is bad for Turkey”: http://times.am/2010/11/23/george-fridman-russian-presence-in-armenia-is-bad-for-turkey/
Turkish Advice: Armenian diaspora, focus on Russia rather than Turkey! http://www.hurriyetdailynews.com/armenian-diaspora-focus-on-russia-rather-than-turkey.aspx?pageID=449&nID=59677&NewsCatID=412
Russian General Leonid Ivashov: Turkey Seeks Separation Between Russia, Armenia: http://news.am/eng/news/36696.html
Opening of Armenian-Turkish Border Should be a Russian but not a U.S. Project: http://www.panarmenian.net/news/eng/?nid=27006
USA trying to break up Armenian-Russian military relations, general says: http://www.eurasianet.org/resource/a...0005/0040.html
The Ukranian civil conflict will not be resolved through dialogue. The opposition is not interested in elections. They know they can not win the elections. The want to dismemeber the ukraine, and through their terrorist actions force an intervention by the EU-USA. What we are witnessing is the second phase of the orange revolultion. Soros inspired and funded. The internationalists second charge , under Soros and his gang of international jews, to take over control in the Ukraine. They have set up the ramparts in central kiev and they have thousand of demonstrators ( unemployed armies of bums and social misfits, amongst them an unlucky armenian ) camped around for months. Where does the money come from to sustain such a " siege", who feeds these army of malcontents and revolutionaries ?. The Ukranian governent has shown an unusual degree of patience. There is a breakdown of law and order and the Govt. is showing signs of diffidence. Soros and his legions will not let up . The armenian trecheorus political class are watching developments here with intense curiosity. Nothing would give more pleasure to the Raffi Hovanessian's, Guiragosians, Paruyr's and their kabala of internationalist rotweilers to recreate similar situations in Erevan and displace our governemnt. In Ukraine it will finally come down to a test of political wills.
ReplyDeleteIn my opinion, Moscow can do a lot to make the West back off. Thus far, other than publicly flexing some military muscle here and there, Moscow has not made a serious effort to directly warn Western leaders - unless there are things going on behind close doors that we are not aware of. Nevertheless, for Moscow, Ukraine is too important to give up. So, why the lack of public revolve by Russia? Why has violence suddenly spiraled out of control in recent days? Perhaps a deal has been reached between Moscow and the West to partition the country.
DeleteIn my opinion, Eastern Ukraine (including the Crimea) and Russia would be much better off without these Western led idiots. I say disengage from them, draw a line in the ground, cut off their heat and electricity and watch them freeze to death.
PS: Nothing of this sort will occur in Armenia despite the so-called political opposition's best efforts.
I think what is more likely is that Moscow is keeping a distance so as not to provide the pro west rioters with 'Russian imperialism' as a rejuvenating rallying cry. They are working behind the scenes, an example was the protest in front of the US embassy in Kiev. RT has an article about this. Also, Putin probably wants to show Yanukovich how isolated he is without Russia's support, and that the situation can either improve or deteriorate depending on what concessions Kiev is willing to make. Though I do agree, worst case scenario is the splitting of Ukraine in two. In the long term this may be best.
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here is a reportage in Armenia TV aired today about grey wolves
ReplyDeletehttp://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3xL1_LZUXRg
Arevordi
ReplyDeleteI see there is much catching up for me to do. I will be back at some time
Just wanted to bring this to your attention
http://pennyforyourthoughts2.blogspot.ca/2014/01/ukraine-cargill-acquires-stake-in.html
"Cargill, the US-based agriculture trading group, has doled out $200 million for a stake in UkrLandFarming, Ukraine’s largest agribusiness holding, in a potentially far-reaching deal that sources said would see both groups partner up in future grain exports to China and other growing markets"
another piece of the puzzle?
Thanks for this Penny, I work in Agro, and large investment projects are pouring into Ukraine as we speak, unfortunately (the corporation I work for make us sign hush hush agreements so can't speak bout the who's and what's). I don't know how much of these projects will really be implemented, I think they are a sort of pressure tool to snatch Ukraine away from Russia. Think about it, you're a poor Ukrainian farmer (majority of ukrainians), you got some Hectares of land, BigAgro kicks in and says we give you X amount of money (loan as forward payment) and you ship us in return your Soy/Corn/Canola harvest most probably to make for Bio-energy ethanol etc.
DeleteIf I were a simple peasant, I would not think twice about it and will kiss Russia good-bye, in strict capitalistic mentality ofcourse, who gives a dime about a "homeland" when you got EUROS round the corner?
JA
here is Kentron TV, watch from 17:00 min
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T.K.
Splitting of Ukraine is very real, hope nothing more than Lviv, Ivannofrankovsk and Chernovitsy regions are yielded.
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